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[tedbrogen]

I do agree that all they had to do was trade that pick for the best vet they could get then re-sign Grant, match Thy, and maybe flip Simons/Nurkic for better fits or as part of the trading the third pick and Dame probably stays.

Personally, I’d trade him to the Nets for a bunch of picks and take Simmons as part of the salary match to maximize the picks I’m getting. Nets would do it because they would know Bridges could talk him into showing up and if they don’t lose any actual players in the trade it gets them into the top four in the east.

[lightningrodman]

I do agree that all they had to do was trade that pick for the best vet they could get then re-sign Grant, match Thy, and maybe flip Simons/Nurkic for better fits or as part of the trading the third pick and Dame probably stays.

Personally, I’d trade him to the Nets for a bunch of picks and take Simmons as part of the salary match to maximize the picks I’m getting. Nets would do it because they would know Bridges could talk him into showing up and if they don’t lose any actual players in the trade it gets them into the top four in the east.

Nobody was going to trade a difference maker to Portland if they think there’s a chance they could trade for Lillard. That late first might have gotten them a DeAnthony Melton level player.

[tedbrogen]

I do agree that all they had to do was trade that pick for the best vet they could get then re-sign Grant, match Thy, and maybe flip Simons/Nurkic for better fits or as part of the trading the third pick and Dame probably stays.

Personally, I’d trade him to the Nets for a bunch of picks and take Simmons as part of the salary match to maximize the picks I’m getting. Nets would do it because they would know Bridges could talk him into showing up and if they don’t lose any actual players in the trade it gets them into the top four in the east.

Nobody was going to trade a difference maker to Portland if they think there’s a chance they could trade for Lillard. That late first might have gotten them a DeAnthony Melton level player.

I’m talking trading the third pick + Simmons for the best vet they could. Bucks would likely have done Jrue for that (according to many on here) Dame/Jrue/Thy/Grant is a nice start to keep Dame happy before other moves.

[lightningrodman]

I do agree that all they had to do was trade that pick for the best vet they could get then re-sign Grant, match Thy, and maybe flip Simons/Nurkic for better fits or as part of the trading the third pick and Dame probably stays.

Personally, I’d trade him to the Nets for a bunch of picks and take Simmons as part of the salary match to maximize the picks I’m getting. Nets would do it because they would know Bridges could talk him into showing up and if they don’t lose any actual players in the trade it gets them into the top four in the east.

Nobody was going to trade a difference maker to Portland if they think there’s a chance they could trade for Lillard. That late first might have gotten them a DeAnthony Melton level player.

I’m talking trading the third pick + Simmons for the best vet they could. Bucks would likely have done Jrue for that (according to many on here) Dame/Jrue/Thy/Grant is a nice start to keep Dame happy before other moves.

Yeah the Bucks would have done that but to me that’s not a good enough player to trade that pick for. Especially once Charlotte picked Miller — I wouldn’t give up Scoot for Jrue/Siakam type players, regardless of Lillard’s situation.

[Daver]

Haven’t watched NBA Countdown on ESPN in years. Did today. The Dame to Miami stuff is over the top. Hope Cronin sends him to Utah.

If im portland im really fu.. pissed what dame agent did so much do that im not even trading him this year going to let him rot at home like a 5 year old.Then next year ill tell miami we want bam no bam no dame period

[Daver]

If you’re Portland and you can’t find a 3rd/4th team to give up value for them, would you rather have Herro/Robinson on their current contracts, or nothing?

I think I’d rather have nothing.

Me to nothing cause i aint trading him for that sh.. package

[MVP2110]

Anyone else having ESPN showing Sportscenter instead of Blazers/Rockets?

[Daver]

Personally I think that's the amicable way to approach this situation, but Dame and his agent have made it less than that. I'd tell him to sit his ass at home. Tell Miami to **** off (their package is ****) and wait for the market to come back around.

Spot fu... on god i hope thats what happens this whole bs trade would make riley look like a genious can hear every announcer say boy that riley knows how to wheel n deal....um...hell no its the gm of portland thats the dumb ass for trading him there for that garbage.Like i said after what his agent has done he aint going anywhere till at least next year

[Daver]

If you’re Portland and you can’t find a 3rd/4th team to give up value for them, would you rather have Herro/Robinson on their current contracts, or nothing?

I think I’d rather have nothing.

Herro and Robinson is an awful package. He's not Ben Simmons, but Robinson is a negative asset at this point. But, Herro, Caleb Martin, Jaime Jaquez and Jovic and a couple picks is in a vacuum I think pretty good value. The issue is that Herro is less valuable to Portland than he is to perhaps any other team in the league.

Srill not enough as i dont think pirtland values either jaquez or jovic could be wrong.
I want bam martin n herro n a 1st no get that miami no get dame

[fan230]

To me it seems that Miami is the strongest team which is part of a state that has no State Income tax, and that is the reason why Dame only wants to play in Miami, Florida. He saves a ton of money that way.

[Daver]

Honestly can’t blame Dame. Portland made so many cowardly moves over the years and Miami’s assets are pretty solid. I don’t even like the fit with the rosters in Brooklyn or San Antonio.

Dame could’ve passed on the 2 year extension and Portland would’ve gotten nothing for him. If Giannis wanted out at 33 to go to a contender, I’d be totally fine with it.

What if Giannis wanted out but demanded it be to one team who was only willing to give you some combination of Tyler Herro, the corpse of Kyle Lowry, Duncan Robinson, and a bunch of late firsts/garbage swaps? Then you asked for Martin and their last two draftees and they said no while Giannis’ agent tightened the screws by saying he would be unhappy anywhere else to strip you of the leverage to actually get the three semi-useful assets that you would want in the deal?

Because I get the vibe the Heat don’t want to give up anything besides picks and some combo of Herro/Robinson/Lowry and are trying to leverage Dame refusing to go anywhere else.

Heat dont want to give up anything they basically want him for free which is what that package is anyway

[lightningrodman]

Houston has been tanking for three years, why is their summer league team full of random guys? Where is the talent they’ve been drafting?

[Daver]

Honestly can’t blame Dame. Portland made so many cowardly moves over the years and Miami’s assets are pretty solid. I don’t even like the fit with the rosters in Brooklyn or San Antonio.

Dame could’ve passed on the 2 year extension and Portland would’ve gotten nothing for him. If Giannis wanted out at 33 to go to a contender, I’d be totally fine with it.

What if Giannis wanted out but demanded it be to one team who was only willing to give you some combination of Tyler Herro, the corpse of Kyle Lowry, Duncan Robinson, and a bunch of late firsts/garbage swaps? Then you asked for Martin and their last two draftees and they said no while Giannis’ agent tightened the screws by saying he would be unhappy anywhere else to strip you of the leverage to actually get the three semi-useful assets that you would want in the deal?

Because I get the vibe the Heat don’t want to give up anything besides picks and some combo of Herro/Robinson/Lowry and are trying to leverage Dame refusing to go anywhere else.

Honestly would not care. Especially when the alternative would’ve been him just walking and getting nothing in return. It’s not like that return is Marcus Morris, Batum and some seconds.

Portland drafted Dame’s replacement 3rd overall this year. They already shot themselves in the foot.

Dame is under contract for 5 years so would you feel different if giannis had 3 years left and started doing this

[MickeyDavis]

Whoa Smith game winner

[Profound23]

What if Giannis wanted out but demanded it be to one team who was only willing to give you some combination of Tyler Herro, the corpse of Kyle Lowry, Duncan Robinson, and a bunch of late firsts/garbage swaps? Then you asked for Martin and their last two draftees and they said no while Giannis’ agent tightened the screws by saying he would be unhappy anywhere else to strip you of the leverage to actually get the three semi-useful assets that you would want in the deal?

Because I get the vibe the Heat don’t want to give up anything besides picks and some combo of Herro/Robinson/Lowry and are trying to leverage Dame refusing to go anywhere else.

Honestly would not care. Especially when the alternative would’ve been him just walking and getting nothing in return. It’s not like that return is Marcus Morris, Batum and some seconds.

Portland drafted Dame’s replacement 3rd overall this year. They already shot themselves in the foot.

Dame is under contract for 5 years so would you feel different if giannis had 3 years left and started doing this

I would not do it at all either way. In that case if Giannis just wanted to walk then I would rather have nothing in return that those horrible contracts. A ton of picks with a mixture of young talent on rookie deals or a star in return.

[MickeyDavis]

Doris doing summer league smh. And she'll likely take Van Gundys spot.

[Matches Malone]

Mark Jones is kinda creepy. Soulless look in his eyes as he smiles at the camera.

[Frank Nova]

Anyone see Amen Thompson go down, was it bad??

[BroncoBuck]

What if Giannis wanted out but demanded it be to one team who was only willing to give you some combination of Tyler Herro, the corpse of Kyle Lowry, Duncan Robinson, and a bunch of late firsts/garbage swaps? Then you asked for Martin and their last two draftees and they said no while Giannis’ agent tightened the screws by saying he would be unhappy anywhere else to strip you of the leverage to actually get the three semi-useful assets that you would want in the deal?

Because I get the vibe the Heat don’t want to give up anything besides picks and some combo of Herro/Robinson/Lowry and are trying to leverage Dame refusing to go anywhere else.

Honestly would not care. Especially when the alternative would’ve been him just walking and getting nothing in return. It’s not like that return is Marcus Morris, Batum and some seconds.

Portland drafted Dame’s replacement 3rd overall this year. They already shot themselves in the foot.

Dame is under contract for 5 years so would you feel different if giannis had 3 years left and started doing this

He’s under contract because he signed an extension when he could’ve bounced. When Giannis is 33 I won’t be mad at him for ring chasing. It’s 2023, it’s a massive accomplishment to even play 10 years with the same team.

I just don’t understand the hatred for Dame when the team he is on isn’t competing for a ring and used their best asset on his replacement. The moment they drafted Scoot is was done, there were tons of reports of LA offering George for #3 and Portland turned it down. I just question the front office that created this Dame/Simons/Scoot/Sharpe dilemma. How did they not see this coming? Why would they think Dame would just go wherever?

[BroncoBuck]

Doris doing summer league smh. And she'll likely take Van Gundys spot.

It’s an evil world we live in