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Re: Dave Feschuk : Masai is on the clock 

Post#81 » by YogurtProducer » Sat Jul 8, 2023 4:46 am

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I dont understand this

If we trade Fred at the deadline for a player on a contract we would have that player plus the MLE and BAE still which would be used to sign Schroder and McD

Nope. We would’ve been over the thresholds and wouldn’t have the eligibility to have thise contracts to sign.


Not true. We could have traded him to Houston for a FRP for example. Or for a prospect and an expiring.

Was Houston offering a first round pick?

Was anyone offering a prospect?
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Re: Dave Feschuk : Masai is on the clock 

Post#82 » by Los_29 » Sat Jul 8, 2023 4:54 am

Jim Todd Jr. wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Jim Todd Jr. wrote:
I dont understand this

If we trade Fred at the deadline for a player on a contract we would have that player plus the MLE and BAE still which would be used to sign Schroder and McD

Nope. We would’ve been over the thresholds and wouldn’t have the eligibility to have thise contracts to sign.


Not true. We could have traded him to Houston for a FRP for example. Or for a prospect and an expiring.


Houston just signed him last week. They had cap space to sign him outright.
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Post#83 » by Dennis 37 » Sat Jul 8, 2023 4:54 am

2019nbachamps wrote:Forget Dave. GTJ, OG, and Pascal will be UFAs next summer. What’s the direction?


If any of them refuse to sign an extension they need to be traded this summer. Did we learn nothing from Chris Bosh?
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Re: Dave Feschuk : Masai is on the clock 

Post#84 » by Rapsin6 » Sat Jul 8, 2023 4:58 am

Jim Todd Jr. wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Jim Todd Jr. wrote:
I dont understand this

If we trade Fred at the deadline for a player on a contract we would have that player plus the MLE and BAE still which would be used to sign Schroder and McD

Nope. We would’ve been over the thresholds and wouldn’t have the eligibility to have thise contracts to sign.


Not true. We could have traded him to Houston for a FRP for example. Or for a prospect and an expiring.


In a trade, both parties have to agree. Why would Houston agree to give up a pick when they got him anyway? Also, since he got the money, we would have to take back similar salary and in Houston’s situation, they never do it. They had cap space for this reason.

Yogurt’s right, nobody is ever really lost for nothing. Every year we trot out 15 guys. After the chip, Rondae and Stanly replaced DG and Kawhi followed by Aaron and Alex Len replacing our centers. They’re never equal replacements but they’re not nothing. I don’t even blame mgmt for this one either. They made Fred a healthy offer. It’s quite the ridiculous offer he got from Houston.
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Re: Dave Feschuk : Masai is on the clock 

Post#85 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 8, 2023 5:16 am

Feschuk is a bozo
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Post#86 » by TDotAllStar » Sat Jul 8, 2023 5:19 am

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kirkwood wrote:The only real reporter in all Toronto sports, it’s real journalism that holds front offices in check, informs fans, season tickets holders of what they are buying into, organizations to wake up and demand better

Doug Smith, you could learn a little from Dave, quite frankly I’m not sure how you have a job, Dave IMO should be the leading sports journalist in Toronto

https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/opinion/2023/07/05/dismantling-of-raptors-roster-of-champions-has-brought-back-little-nows-the-time-for-those-long-term-decisions.html?fbclid=IwAR3v9kF0TjUB6jQGnbQZ70IKufXbLMDj7i3Ucq8Ew5cAUCKj7ukYk5F3N6w_aem_AYXCb2pqUum2ntekLl_la3Jy5yvlAVSSZUMQWvL4sD8SA3U8W1KGuNcYP17m6VMlkWI

Masai must be fired if he loses anymore talent with nothing in return, what happened five years ago is no longer valid


Doug smith should have been blacklisted from the industry for what he pulled with vince carter all those years.

All of them from back then. For 25 years or so, i will not give any of these rat “journalists” my attention.

Feschuk is the top of my nope list.

I been a raps fan since i was 10 (2006), can you explain what Doug Smith did w VC
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Post#87 » by Kingsway_fan » Sat Jul 8, 2023 5:53 am

How do these incompetent fools get jobs? Feshxhuk, Doug Smith, ...
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Post#88 » by Kingsway_fan » Sat Jul 8, 2023 6:01 am

pilkoids wrote:This the same Dave who wrote **** articles about Vince Carter every week? I swear this guy drove vince out of town

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Re: Dave Feschuk : Masai is on the clock 

Post#89 » by Prestige » Sat Jul 8, 2023 6:32 am

Takes me back to the days of yore when people read the local paper and sportswriters had clout.
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Post#90 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sat Jul 8, 2023 11:30 am

WuTang_OG wrote:Feschuk is a bozo


As fans of MLSE teams how in legacy media reality do first round exits and 5th seeds best tied for 8th and blown play in games especially when the net result is hybrid fits and starts rebuilding? The media should know the regular season is practice for the playoffs. Why is anyone surprised? If we are rebuilding (but don't call it that) then lotto should be seen as silver lining. Hybrid means oh look a deal for Poetl but 13th as opposed to 7 or 8th and nothing more. Whatever they do they are trying to have it both ways and that is ok if thinking us being the team to reach for Bilaly wasn't in any way better than netting a falling Gradey Dick and deadline pouncing on homegrown Jakob Poetl. Is it what Pritchard or Danny Ainge would do? Hard no. Is it what Sam Presti might do? Hard to know. He traded up for Cason Wallace the safest pick in the late lotto that clearly was not going to be there in the late lotto. To me Dave Feschuk as sports writer is on the clock.
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Post#91 » by Childs » Sat Jul 8, 2023 11:55 am



And then he won 3 cups right?
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Post#92 » by carlosey » Sat Jul 8, 2023 2:31 pm

Ahh yes the same Feschuk that said Vince "winced" at his manly handshake. Top level journalist that guy.
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Post#93 » by agkagk » Sat Jul 8, 2023 5:12 pm

TDotAllStar wrote:
agkagk wrote:
kirkwood wrote:The only real reporter in all Toronto sports, it’s real journalism that holds front offices in check, informs fans, season tickets holders of what they are buying into, organizations to wake up and demand better

Doug Smith, you could learn a little from Dave, quite frankly I’m not sure how you have a job, Dave IMO should be the leading sports journalist in Toronto

https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/opinion/2023/07/05/dismantling-of-raptors-roster-of-champions-has-brought-back-little-nows-the-time-for-those-long-term-decisions.html?fbclid=IwAR3v9kF0TjUB6jQGnbQZ70IKufXbLMDj7i3Ucq8Ew5cAUCKj7ukYk5F3N6w_aem_AYXCb2pqUum2ntekLl_la3Jy5yvlAVSSZUMQWvL4sD8SA3U8W1KGuNcYP17m6VMlkWI

Masai must be fired if he loses anymore talent with nothing in return, what happened five years ago is no longer valid


Doug smith should have been blacklisted from the industry for what he pulled with vince carter all those years.

All of them from back then. For 25 years or so, i will not give any of these rat “journalists” my attention.

Feschuk is the top of my nope list.

I been a raps fan since i was 10 (2006), can you explain what Doug Smith did w VC



Not an exaggeration:


A grown man started a personal feud w/ a 23 yr old because the 23 year said no when the grown man insisted that the 23 year old had to let him fly to north carolina, go to vinces childhood home, have thanksgiving diner with his family AND SLEEP IN HIS HOUSE!

Dude wanted to tape it for tv, and I paste a photo of it on the front of the papers.

He thought he could literally bully vc into letting him pretend to be his daddy at their biggest annual family tradition/get together.


After this, 2 years of weekly hit pieces.

But its the press scrums that did the most damage.

Smith would demonstratively badger vince. It was childish snd toxic.

Example:

Vc once scored 40+ three games in a row. Media narrative was could he tie jordans record of 4 in a row.

He didnt.

Every press scum for WEEKS afterwards; smith would grit his teeth, leer in vinces face, like he was squaring up, and would ask the same toxic question REPEATEDLY; “jordan once scored 40 4x’s in a row. Dont you feel like you let the fans and city down.

Vc would compose himself and give generic answers:

“Its a team game”

“Its all about winning”

Smith repeats same question but grits his teeth slightly more aggressively.

Vince: “were on a six game winning street, what do you want man?”

Smith gets “clever”: “why did mopete make the winning shot? Dont you feel like its your responsibility to take that shot? Dont you feel like you owe the city and fans more?”

vince: “team game, proud of my boy making the shot”.

Smith: “michael jordan once scored 40 4x’s in a row, dont you feel you let the city and fans down?”

The very next scrum smith would ask those exact SAME questions over and over until vince matched the aggressive tone.

He got baited.

The result was vince looking smith in the eyes and saying “what would you write about if i stop dunking”?

He was calling out smith’s passive aggressive jordan comparison verbal attacks.

Next days headine: “vince refuses to ever dunk again. Turns his back on fans”.


Now, during these daily scrums, vc is sitting st his locker with 10+ white guys hovering over him, the camera is insulating smith, the editors are cropping the convo to insulate smith. The security, travel agents, media heads, the gm, the president, the coach; everyone passively left vc out to dry.

Vc probably had that exact same convo for two weeks straight.


The nbapa lowkey blacklisted us for over a decade because of this.

The vets taught the rookies that we were just another wasp trap and couldnt be trusted.

They thought we were alabama north.

Eff doug smith, he railroaded vince because vince wouldnt let smith pretend to be his daddy in his moms house on national television.


Hard to believe the rest of the players took issue with this. :(
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Post#94 » by SharoneWright » Sat Jul 8, 2023 5:21 pm

I haven’t read the article. I assume there’s a bunch of run-on sentences and awkward metaphors that don’t really work.
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Post#95 » by TDotAllStar » Sat Jul 8, 2023 5:33 pm

agkagk wrote:
TDotAllStar wrote:
agkagk wrote:
Doug smith should have been blacklisted from the industry for what he pulled with vince carter all those years.

All of them from back then. For 25 years or so, i will not give any of these rat “journalists” my attention.

Feschuk is the top of my nope list.

I been a raps fan since i was 10 (2006), can you explain what Doug Smith did w VC



Not an exaggeration:


A grown man started a personal feud w/ a 23 yr old because the 23 year said no when the grown man insisted that the 23 year old had to let him fly to north carolina, go to vinces childhood home, have thanksgiving diner with his family AND SLEEP IN HIS HOUSE!

Dude wanted to tape it for tv, and I paste a photo of it on the front of the papers.

He thought he could literally bully vc into letting him pretend to be his daddy at their biggest annual family tradition/get together.


After this, 2 years of weekly hit pieces.

But its the press scrums that did the most damage.

Smith would demonstratively badger vince. It was childish snd toxic.

Example:

Vc once scored 40+ three games in a row. Media narrative was could he tie jordans record of 4 in a row.

He didnt.

Every press scum for WEEKS afterwards; smith would grit his teeth, leer in vinces face, like he was squaring up, and would ask the same toxic question REPEATEDLY; “jordan once scored 40 4x’s in a row. Dont you feel like you let the fans and city down.

Vc would compose himself and give generic answers:

“Its a team game”

“Its all about winning”

Smith repeats same question but grits his teeth slightly more aggressively.

Vince: “were on a six game winning street, what do you want man?”

Smith gets “clever”: “why did mopete make the winning shot? Dont you feel like its your responsibility to take that shot? Dont you feel like you owe the city and fans more?”

vince: “team game, proud of my boy making the shot”.

Smith: “michael jordan once scored 40 4x’s in a row, dont you feel you let the city and fans down?”

The very next scrum smith would ask those exact SAME questions over and over until vince matched the aggressive tone.

He got baited.

The result was vince looking smith in the eyes and saying “what would you write about if i stop dunking”?

He was calling out smith’s passive aggressive jordan comparison verbal attacks.

Next days headine: “vince refuses to ever dunk again. Turns his back on fans”.


Now, during these daily scrums, vc is sitting st his locker with 10+ white guys hovering over him, the camera is insulating smith, the editors are cropping the convo to insulate smith. The security, travel agents, media heads, the gm, the president, the coach; everyone passively left vc out to dry.

Vc probably had that exact same convo for two weeks straight.


The nbapa lowkey blacklisted us for over a decade because of this.

The vets taught the rookies that we were just another wasp trap and couldnt be trusted.

They thought we were alabama north.

Eff doug smith, he railroaded vince because vince wouldnt let smith pretend to be his daddy in his moms house on national television.


Hard to believe the rest of the players took issue with this. :(

is it too late to be mad about this, bc i’m mad about this :banghead:
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Post#96 » by bape_lovers » Sat Jul 8, 2023 5:36 pm

dallas wanted Freddy for Luka but Masai was so loyal to his guys, he said no

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YogurtProducer wrote:
Jim Todd Jr. wrote:
I dont understand this

If we trade Fred at the deadline for a player on a contract we would have that player plus the MLE and BAE still which would be used to sign Schroder and McD

Nope. We would’ve been over the thresholds and wouldn’t have the eligibility to have thise contracts to sign.


Not true. We could have traded him to Houston for a FRP for example. Or for a prospect and an expiring.
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Re: Dave Feschuk : Masai is on the clock 

Post#97 » by ciueli » Sat Jul 8, 2023 5:37 pm

agkagk wrote:
TDotAllStar wrote:
agkagk wrote:
Doug smith should have been blacklisted from the industry for what he pulled with vince carter all those years.

All of them from back then. For 25 years or so, i will not give any of these rat “journalists” my attention.

Feschuk is the top of my nope list.

I been a raps fan since i was 10 (2006), can you explain what Doug Smith did w VC



Not an exaggeration:


A grown man started a personal feud w/ a 23 yr old because the 23 year said no when the grown man insisted that the 23 year old had to let him fly to north carolina, go to vinces childhood home, have thanksgiving diner with his family AND SLEEP IN HIS HOUSE!

Dude wanted to tape it for tv, and I paste a photo of it on the front of the papers.

He thought he could literally bully vc into letting him pretend to be his daddy at their biggest annual family tradition/get together.


After this, 2 years of weekly hit pieces.

But its the press scrums that did the most damage.

Smith would demonstratively badger vince. It was childish snd toxic.

Example:

Vc once scored 40+ three games in a row. Media narrative was could he tie jordans record of 4 in a row.

He didnt.

Every press scum for WEEKS afterwards; smith would grit his teeth, leer in vinces face, like he was squaring up, and would ask the same toxic question REPEATEDLY; “jordan once scored 40 4x’s in a row. Dont you feel like you let the fans and city down.

Vc would compose himself and give generic answers:

“Its a team game”

“Its all about winning”

Smith repeats same question but grits his teeth slightly more aggressively.

Vince: “were on a six game winning street, what do you want man?”

Smith gets “clever”: “why did mopete make the winning shot? Dont you feel like its your responsibility to take that shot? Dont you feel like you owe the city and fans more?”

vince: “team game, proud of my boy making the shot”.

Smith: “michael jordan once scored 40 4x’s in a row, dont you feel you let the city and fans down?”

The very next scrum smith would ask those exact SAME questions over and over until vince matched the aggressive tone.

He got baited.

The result was vince looking smith in the eyes and saying “what would you write about if i stop dunking”?

He was calling out smith’s passive aggressive jordan comparison verbal attacks.

Next days headine: “vince refuses to ever dunk again. Turns his back on fans”.


Now, during these daily scrums, vc is sitting st his locker with 10+ white guys hovering over him, the camera is insulating smith, the editors are cropping the convo to insulate smith. The security, travel agents, media heads, the gm, the president, the coach; everyone passively left vc out to dry.

Vc probably had that exact same convo for two weeks straight.


The nbapa lowkey blacklisted us for over a decade because of this.

The vets taught the rookies that we were just another wasp trap and couldnt be trusted.

They thought we were alabama north.

Eff doug smith, he railroaded vince because vince wouldnt let smith pretend to be his daddy in his moms house on national television.


Hard to believe the rest of the players took issue with this. :(


It's an interesting story you have here, it's not like anything I've heard before and I've been following the team since 2001. The one question I have is, if what you're saying is true, why did Vince agree to write the forward for Smith's 2021 book "We the North"? Something doesn't add up to me, I can't imagine Vince forgiving Smith for what you're saying he did to the point that it seems they are now on extremely good terms.
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Post#98 » by ItsDanger » Sat Jul 8, 2023 5:48 pm

NBAPA blacklisted the Raps for a decade? LOL because of media? Have you ever been to NY? WTF. that's quite a rant which really has little to do with the present situation. That was 20 years ago
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Post#99 » by agkagk » Sat Jul 8, 2023 6:16 pm

ciueli wrote:
agkagk wrote:
TDotAllStar wrote:I been a raps fan since i was 10 (2006), can you explain what Doug Smith did w VC



Not an exaggeration:


A grown man started a personal feud w/ a 23 yr old because the 23 year said no when the grown man insisted that the 23 year old had to let him fly to north carolina, go to vinces childhood home, have thanksgiving diner with his family AND SLEEP IN HIS HOUSE!

Dude wanted to tape it for tv, and I paste a photo of it on the front of the papers.

He thought he could literally bully vc into letting him pretend to be his daddy at their biggest annual family tradition/get together.


After this, 2 years of weekly hit pieces.

But its the press scrums that did the most damage.

Smith would demonstratively badger vince. It was childish snd toxic.

Example:

Vc once scored 40+ three games in a row. Media narrative was could he tie jordans record of 4 in a row.

He didnt.

Every press scum for WEEKS afterwards; smith would grit his teeth, leer in vinces face, like he was squaring up, and would ask the same toxic question REPEATEDLY; “jordan once scored 40 4x’s in a row. Dont you feel like you let the fans and city down.

Vc would compose himself and give generic answers:

“Its a team game”

“Its all about winning”

Smith repeats same question but grits his teeth slightly more aggressively.

Vince: “were on a six game winning street, what do you want man?”

Smith gets “clever”: “why did mopete make the winning shot? Dont you feel like its your responsibility to take that shot? Dont you feel like you owe the city and fans more?”

vince: “team game, proud of my boy making the shot”.

Smith: “michael jordan once scored 40 4x’s in a row, dont you feel you let the city and fans down?”

The very next scrum smith would ask those exact SAME questions over and over until vince matched the aggressive tone.

He got baited.

The result was vince looking smith in the eyes and saying “what would you write about if i stop dunking”?

He was calling out smith’s passive aggressive jordan comparison verbal attacks.

Next days headine: “vince refuses to ever dunk again. Turns his back on fans”.


Now, during these daily scrums, vc is sitting st his locker with 10+ white guys hovering over him, the camera is insulating smith, the editors are cropping the convo to insulate smith. The security, travel agents, media heads, the gm, the president, the coach; everyone passively left vc out to dry.

Vc probably had that exact same convo for two weeks straight.


The nbapa lowkey blacklisted us for over a decade because of this.

The vets taught the rookies that we were just another wasp trap and couldnt be trusted.

They thought we were alabama north.

Eff doug smith, he railroaded vince because vince wouldnt let smith pretend to be his daddy in his moms house on national television.


Hard to believe the rest of the players took issue with this. :(


It's an interesting story you have here, it's not like anything I've heard before and I've been following the team since 2001. The one question I have is, if what you're saying is true, why did Vince agree to write the forward for Smith's 2021 book "We the North"? Something doesn't add up to me, I can't imagine Vince forgiving Smith for what you're saying he did to the point that it seems they are now on extremely good terms.


Because he is of higher character than smith and many of us.

Because hes a gentleman and a leader.

Hes probably 20 years younger than smith and he went full circle to help raise up smith and make him a better man.

Vince is g bro.
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Post#100 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat Jul 8, 2023 6:16 pm

I don't know how the NBAPA would/could blacklist an organization, do so quietly, and what it would mean exactly. Plus they'd have to care deeply about Doug Smith's inanity.
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