Knightro wrote:three3d wrote:Thank you for saying this cause I’ve been screaming it. A slow release + zero elevation off the ground = ball swatted 5 rows up in the bleachers. Bad training is going to hinder any chance of development for Black. There is/was absolutely nothing suggesting he’d be able to develop a shot as he only shot 70% from the free throw line in college and 30% from the three point line. Usually low 3pt % with a high FT% gives hope the three pointer has room to improve. This really feels like Elf 2.0 IMO, I hope I’m wrong but time will tell.
Let's just be totally clear on one thing... Elfrid shot 26% from 3PT and 61% from the FT line as a JUNIOR in college. He showed zero improvement and in fact actually regressed as a shooter over the course of his college career.
Black wasn't a good shooter at Arkansas, but IMO it's unfair to put him in the same category as Payton who had three years of clear evidence that he couldn't shoot and more importantly wasn't improving as a shooter.
Here's a catch-and-shoot three from today. Much smoother and quicker than the clips we've seen of him shooting off the dribble.
Black seems to be the inverse of Fultz right now.
Fultz's jumper of the catch looks like garbage and he doesn't like to take them either. But when he can dribble his way into some forward and upward momentum, his pull up jumper looks a lot different and a lot better.
Black appears to have a much more confident stroke off the catch than he does off the dribble right now.
Elf was never cut out for the NBA. I don't think it's fair to project Elf's obvious lack of ability onto Black.
But I do think it would be fair for posters to remind other posters of their imperfect judgements about Payton. In other words, I think it's fair to remind people that they tried to wish a player into being that was not there, and that the organization's decision to do so had significant negative consequences.
