drekwins wrote:HopelessKnick wrote:drekwins wrote:
I understand this but I fully support weapon systems that are more lethal, impactful and that cause an increased psychological impact amongst the Russian front-line. Russia is already planting an incredible amount of land-mines and dropping cluster munitions left and right on Ukrainians and throughout Ukrainian territory.
To that effect, I also support phosphorous munitions to be used on the front lines. I support anything to get Russia off of Ukrainian land and for the self-defense of their country. If this were used for offensive purposes in Russia, I would feel much different. However,t as long as Russia is in the sovereign Ukrainian territory, I hope they get torn up. I understand the gravity of what I am saying. Once again, all Russia has to do to avoid this is to go back to Russian territory.
But it is senseless as the russians possess this munition and vastly superior quantities. It is not going to work in Ukraine's favor.
One question out of personal interest....is the position you are positing generally your position in regards to war dynamics (like after being attacked, that country should be given all thinkable munition to fend off the attacker?)?
Russia is already using them. Russia has munitions of every type and all different power levels. They have used cluster munitions. They have used phosphorous. They're not simply playing down to their opponent and only matching what Ukraine uses. I'm not sure where that is coming from. Russia IS using these weapons.
Also, it is very important to make Russia feel as much pain as possible. The goal of the current state of this war isnt just to advance. That is an objective but there is also an incentive to cause havoc within Russia to put pressure on leadership to end the war. If more soldiers are going home in body bags and front-line soldiers are calling home scared, Ukraine benefits. Russian wives, mothers and children need to go to bed every single night thinking about the real possibility of their loved ones dying. That causes an uprising. That causes a change in support.
The psychological aspect of this war is pivotal for Ukraine. Every time Russians get a little comfortable with what they're fighting against, increase the firepower. It's a gut punch. It takes the wind out of their sails. I support continued increases in lethality and quantity of weapons until Russia leaves Ukraine.
BTW there are two sides to this. The one is increasing the cost for the russians. But doing so, also ultimately increases the potential gain or win. The sowjets lost 27 million people in the second world war but had their strongest and most dominant phase of existence after that war. Increasing costs is not a one way street. If you lose that war (US/NATO) it will be all the more humiliating as well--keep that in mind. And at this point---China is gaining and winning big time. While the U.S. is expending more and more resources in this war, China is producing and stockpiling. On top of that, since the war started, the russians and chinese grew closer than ever (one of the biggest U.S. foreign policy objectives has always been keeping these two apart), and the russians are now helping the chinese erase the only military area they severely lacked in and where the U.S. have a vast advantage---namely the NAVY. Russian naval technology coupled with chinese production capacity. I think multiple U.S. think tanks have recently concluded that a prolonged war in europe is going to be detrimental to the U.S.----all this is only to save Biden's re-election chances next year....watch for the conflict to fizzle out by the end of next year, regardless of the results on the ground...
