Poll: Who’s our starting PG in 2024-25? (In 16 months?)

minimus · Post #21 » by **minimus** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 2:33 pm

One PG from 2021 draft class:

- Kira Lewis
- Immanuel Quickley
- Tre Jones
- Yam Madar
- Bones Hyland

Post #22 » by **Klomp** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 4:45 am

younggunsmn wrote:Mike Conley Jr is far and away the best option among scenarios that are realistic.
Although he will have to take a big pay cut and every dollar of his salary would add to our luxury tax bill.

Some of it might depend on our plans with the centers, but can we afford to lose his $20 million salary slot? Do we trade him to preserve the slot?

I'm hopeful that he could be brought back for less than the MLE if we decide we can live without the salary slot.

minimus · Post #23 » by **minimus** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 7:30 pm

In other words: I dont expect our new PG to be a star, I would not surprised if we find and develop a new Beverley

younggunsmn · Post #24 » by **younggunsmn** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 7:48 pm

Klomp wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:Mike Conley Jr is far and away the best option among scenarios that are realistic.
Although he will have to take a big pay cut and every dollar of his salary would add to our luxury tax bill.

Some of it might depend on our plans with the centers, but can we afford to lose his $20 million salary slot? Do we trade him to preserve the slot?

I'm hopeful that he could be brought back for less than the MLE if we decide we can live without the salary slot.

Yes, Conley coming back for less than the MLE is ideal. We need his leadership as much as his PG play.

We don't have the future draft assets to trade that would make preserving that salary slot worthwhile, even if we were willing to pay mountains of luxury tax.

I think its only Conley, KAT/Gobert trade, or Milton/vet min as the likely scenarios for next year's PG.
WIth the outside shot of a NAZ for a PG trade or sign and trade (someone like Tyus Jones maybe).

Krapinsky · Post #25 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 3:06 am

Wouldn’t be awesome if it was Wendell Moore Jr. after a break out 2023-24 season?

Nick K · Post #26 » by **Nick K** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 12:41 am

Worm Guts wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Nick K wrote:Mike Conley all day. I think he's good for 3 more years of hi quality ball. He's the perfect type PG for this Wolves team.

A 39 year-old that has historically missed 10-20 games every year and is a high 20 MPG player is you starter?

I would love Conley to finish his career here, but he should be the back-up as soon as next season.

You added a couple years. He’ll be 37.

Which means he's 36 right now for argument sake.

Nick K · Post #27 » by **Nick K** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 12:50 am

BlacJacMac wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
A 39 year-old that has historically missed 10-20 games every year and is a high 20 MPG player is you starter?

I would love Conley to finish his career here, but he should be the back-up as soon as next season.

You added a couple years. He’ll be 37.

Nick said 3 more years.

Why not? He's 36 right now. It's true he's missed between 10 and 20 games a year but everybody misses games. Look at Kawhi Leonard, CP3, Malcolm Brogdon, James Harden, Kyle Lowry etc. I could go on. They all miss games....more than Mike Conley.

I'm just saying at 36 y.o. he takes care of himself and easily has 3 more years in him because of the way he plays. He's the perfect floor general and compliment for the talent we have.

The Wolves have gone all-in to win a Championship right now. Our window is not tomorrow. Let's see how it all plays out.

Nick K · Post #28 » by **Nick K** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 1:06 am

minimus wrote:In other words: I dont expect our new PG to be a star, I would not surprised if we find and develop a new Beverley

Good luck with that. There is only one Pat Beverly. I love the guy but his schtick was wearing thin with the F.O. at the end. That's why he's not back.....for any price.

BlacJacMac · Post #29 » by **BlacJacMac** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 5:18 am

Nick K wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:You added a couple years. He’ll be 37.

Nick said 3 more years.

Why not? He's 36 right now. It's true he's missed between 10 and 20 games a year but everybody misses games. Look at Kawhi Leonard, CP3, Malcolm Brogdon, James Harden, Kyle Lowry etc. I could go on. They all miss games....more than Mike Conley.

I'm just saying at 36 y.o. he takes care of himself and easily has 3 more years in him because of the way he plays. He's the perfect floor general and compliment for the talent we have.

The Wolves have gone all-in to win a Championship right now. Our window is not tomorrow. Let's see how it all plays out.

I hope he's with the team for 3 more years. I hope at least 2 of them is as a back-up.

minimus · Post #30 » by **minimus** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 7:24 am

Nick K wrote:
minimus wrote:In other words: I dont expect our new PG to be a star, I would not surprised if we find and develop a new Beverley

Good luck with that. There is only one Pat Beverly.

Agree, there is only one Pat Beverly. My point is our next PG will be development story, low profile comboguard, not a star player.

FrenchMinnyFan · Post #31 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 12:05 pm

Mike will be great. If he remain at current level + get low pay. But i doubt he accept a small salary if he play well this year.

Colbinii · Post #32 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 2:46 pm

I would like to see someone like Killian Hayes get some run. Optimistic ANT continues to evolve as a playmaker/passer but having a 3+D type PG [Patrick Beverley type mentioned above] makes sense given the lack of flexibility we have.

NAW fits the 3+D type PG role.

Post #33 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 6:41 pm

Colbinii wrote:I would like to see someone like Killian Hayes get some run. Optimistic ANT continues to evolve as a playmaker/passer but having a 3+D type PG [Patrick Beverley type mentioned above] makes sense given the lack of flexibility we have.

NAW fits the 3+D type PG role.

I really think they're going to go away from the "true PG" model.

Post #34 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jul 6, 2023 8:28 pm

In a potential Towns trade, I've been struggling to find guys who could be available but yet good enough to be the successor at PG. I've still occasionally come back to Josh Giddey as I think he could fill the role and I think OKC would be a decent spot for Towns. Building out the rest of the trade is the tough part.

Another I just recently came upon is Dyson Daniels, though I'm not sure if New Orleans would make him available in a trade.

Post #35 » by **Klomp** » Sat Jul 8, 2023 9:56 pm

Q: How do you feel about your point guard depth?

Finch: We feel great about it. We feel we have a lot of different profiles at that position, or guys that can move over and play that position, whether it be conventional guys like J-Mac or unconventional guys like Kyle, and given the way that we play, we're fine with that. I think we could very much evolve to a special night to night situation. It's going to come down to which guys accentuate our best players, whether it be Wendell just being a role player, guarding next to Ant, making spot shots, and Ant plays a lot at the one, so exactly, these are exciting parts about going into next season. We don't really know how it's going to be mapped out. We do feel comfortable and confident in options that we do have.

https://www.startribune.com/q-a-timberwolves-coach-chris-finch-karl-anthony-towns-anthony-edwards-rudy-gobert-nba-summer-league/600288335/

Baseline81 · Post #36 » by **Baseline81** » Sat Jul 8, 2023 10:20 pm

Klomp wrote:Q: How do you feel about your point guard depth?

Finch: We feel great about it. We feel we have a lot of different profiles at that position, or guys that can move over and play that position, whether it be conventional guys like J-Mac or unconventional guys like Kyle, and given the way that we play, we're fine with that. I think we could very much evolve to a special night to night situation. It's going to come down to which guys accentuate our best players, whether it be Wendell just being a role player, guarding next to Ant, making spot shots, and Ant plays a lot at the one, so exactly, these are exciting parts about going into next season. We don't really know how it's going to be mapped out. We do feel comfortable and confident in options that we do have.

https://www.startribune.com/q-a-timberwolves-coach-chris-finch-karl-anthony-towns-anthony-edwards-rudy-gobert-nba-summer-league/600288335/

As if he would come out and say, "We don't feel great about it. As of now, we're lacking a quality backup. McLaughlin took a step back last season. Moore hasn't developed as one would hope. Maybe Milton grabs the bull by the horns. Otherwise, we'll see more of Edwards."

Post #37 » by **Klomp** » Sat Jul 8, 2023 10:57 pm

The "connective tissue" term Finch has used about Moore is important, because we're getting to a point in our roster construction where that might be the most important PG quality for this team. Budget-wise, it's probably the most beneficial as well. We need a Ron Harper or Derek Fisher more than we need a Steve Nash or Damian Lillard.

Conley, Milton, McLaughlin, Anderson, Alexander-Walker, Brown and Moore can all fit this quality as a potential fifth starter.

KGdaBom · Post #38 » by **KGdaBom** » Sun Jul 9, 2023 12:51 am

I see two more have joined me in the Shake Milton camp.

Post #39 » by **Klomp** » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:39 pm

It's obviously a small sample size, but it's worth pointing out that Nickeil Alexander-Walker had an A/TO ratio of 3.2 last year after the trade. It dropped some in the play-ins and playoffs, but still very solid at 2.5.

minimus · Post #40 » by **minimus** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:36 am

Klomp wrote:It's obviously a small sample size, but it's worth pointing out that Nickeil Alexander-Walker had an A/TO ratio of 3.2 last year after the trade. It dropped some in the play-ins and playoffs, but still very solid at 2.5.

Last season he was one who consistently passed the ball to Gobert.

Who’s our Starting PG in 2024-25?