Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3

[mjkvol]

Oh no, the vinsider has spoken!

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Dueling insiders!!!

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They are irrelevant. Has Marc Jackson's brother's friend's friend's friend checked in?

We need a shorter moniker for him - how about MJBFFF?

[sixers hoops]

Deadline is midnight but we haven't heard anything. Is it normal for RFAs to be matched at the deadline or is it bad that nothing has happened yet?


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When one team adds clauses to screw over the other team, then making the other team wait as long as possible is standard. About 15 years ago, teams had way longer to decide so if someone tried to poach your free-agent, you could tie them up for a while. I’m not sure this bothers the Jazz that much.,

Except: We're talking about Morey. He should be able to sort this out over a cup of coffee. However, I do have a question. Is the offer sheet even legal? Essentially my read of it, Reed has to play a full season (seasons two and three) to determine if he's going to be paid. I think the Sixers should challenge the offer sheet for making no sense.

In other words: Match it, but a letter to both the commissioner and the player's union that you're planning to challenge the agreement that Reed might have to play two full seasons without compensation. I can't believe the league and/or the union would agree to such trickery.

We haven't seen the agreement, but it seems fishy.

I am not following. The first season is guaranteed. If the team holding the contract advances to the second round, then the next season becomes guaranteed. Then the same thing for the final year.

He will know after year 1 if he will be a free agent or the next season was guaranteed.

[Arsenal]

When one team adds clauses to screw over the other team, then making the other team wait as long as possible is standard. About 15 years ago, teams had way longer to decide so if someone tried to poach your free-agent, you could tie them up for a while. I’m not sure this bothers the Jazz that much.,

Except: We're talking about Morey. He should be able to sort this out over a cup of coffee. However, I do have a question. Is the offer sheet even legal? Essentially my read of it, Reed has to play a full season (seasons two and three) to determine if he's going to be paid. I think the Sixers should challenge the offer sheet for making no sense.

In other words: Match it, but a letter to both the commissioner and the player's union that you're planning to challenge the agreement that Reed might have to play two full seasons without compensation. I can't believe the league and/or the union would agree to such trickery.

We haven't seen the agreement, but it seems fishy.

I am not following. The first season is guaranteed. If the team holding the contract advances to the second round, then the next season becomes guaranteed. Then the same thing for the final year.

He will know after year 1 if he will be a free agent or the next season was guaranteed.

Plus he gets a No-Trade Clause for 1 year. So he can make sure he doesn't get traded to a bad team where Year 2 and 3 would become not guaranteed. Really slick work by that little devil Danny.

[spikeslovechild]

Except: We're talking about Morey. He should be able to sort this out over a cup of coffee. However, I do have a question. Is the offer sheet even legal? Essentially my read of it, Reed has to play a full season (seasons two and three) to determine if he's going to be paid. I think the Sixers should challenge the offer sheet for making no sense.

In other words: Match it, but a letter to both the commissioner and the player's union that you're planning to challenge the agreement that Reed might have to play two full seasons without compensation. I can't believe the league and/or the union would agree to such trickery.

We haven't seen the agreement, but it seems fishy.

I am not following. The first season is guaranteed. If the team holding the contract advances to the second round, then the next season becomes guaranteed. Then the same thing for the final year.

He will know after year 1 if he will be a free agent or the next season was guaranteed.

Plus he gets a No-Trade Clause for 1 year. So he can make sure he doesn't get traded to a bad team where Year 2 and 3 would become not guaranteed. Really slick work by that little devil Danny.

We really should have either signed him or worked out a sign-and-trade with a team.

We waited and got burned but it's ridiculous that these bizarre terms are allowed in his contract to begin with. The NFL did away with that nonsense decades ago

[Stanford]

I don't understand how we got burned. Would we be saying that if Utah just offered him the same deal without the fraudulent conditions? The years and amount are completely reasonable. If anything, bball is getting burned here. If we don't match, he's on a 1 year deal on a team with a ton of players at his position.

[sixers hoops]

I don't understand how we got burned. Would we be saying that if Utah just offered him the same deal without the fraudulent conditions? The years and amount are completely reasonable. If anything, bball is getting burned here. If we don't match, he's on a 1 year deal on a team with a ton of players at his position.

We only got burned because we wanted him to take the qualifying offer so Josh Harris doesn’t have to pay the tax. Otherwise, it’s not a huge deal.

[Murray_17]

I don't understand how we got burned. Would we be saying that if Utah just offered him the same deal without the fraudulent conditions? The years and amount are completely reasonable. If anything, bball is getting burned here. If we don't match, he's on a 1 year deal on a team with a ton of players at his position.

This, Reed is barely gonna play in Utah

[Embiid P]

I fear the Sixers have once again become the red-headed stepchild of their owner (much like they were vs. the Flyers with Snider) with Harris purchasing the Commanders. If winning becomes secondary to avoiding the luxury tax, then it's clear that his priorities lie elsewhere and thus needs to sell ASAP.

[Jhawk03]

Yikes, I try to take a little break and find Danny boy out here showin his ass.

Reed is as good as gone, mainly because matching that contract with that language in it would make Morey look weak (even before the luxury tax complications). Can't blame Danny cuz scumbag gonna scumbag, my concern is does Morey not have enough moles to prevent a bitch move like this? Jazz have no use for Paul, like zero, nothing about this makes any sense but w/e so long Bball.

[mg]

I don't understand how we got burned. Would we be saying that if Utah just offered him the same deal without the fraudulent conditions? The years and amount are completely reasonable. If anything, bball is getting burned here. If we don't match, he's on a 1 year deal on a team with a ton of players at his position.

This, Reed is barely gonna play in Utah

He's just another tradeable asset to add to Ainge's warchest.

I've seen this movie before..

[DCasey91]

I don't understand how we got burned. Would we be saying that if Utah just offered him the same deal without the fraudulent conditions? The years and amount are completely reasonable. If anything, bball is getting burned here. If we don't match, he's on a 1 year deal on a team with a ton of players at his position.

Anyone with half a brain would jump and go straight to the airport for a double of their salary (most likely more) even if one year. It’s guaranteed $$$

It’s actually more than triple because the qualifying is around the 2.3 ballpark. So he’s going to make a lot more than two seasons with us. So no dramas take the money and run.

My bet is the Sixers had inside info thus signing Bamba etc to cover their tracks. Probably had an offer sheet from the Sixers, Reeds agent goes we’ll test the waters. Happens all the time

We didn’t do him any favours on pumping up his value for trading for picks/assets. Had good netrtg, box +- in the reg season and in the playoffs. Blame Doc the old cloud yelling man

Danny just rolled us up and smoked it good and proper lol

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[Ben]

Reed should be the Sixers' starting 4 this year. Tobi/ Reed/ Embiid frontcourt. The Jazz's offered salary is peanuts for a starting PF. If Morey doesn't recognize that, or if his hands are tied by ownership because of the luxury tax, it'll be disgusting.

[Jailblazers7]

Joel really does seem like a great guy. “I’m just happy to be his friend” is too wholesome.

[hookshot199]

When one team adds clauses to screw over the other team, then making the other team wait as long as possible is standard. About 15 years ago, teams had way longer to decide so if someone tried to poach your free-agent, you could tie them up for a while. I’m not sure this bothers the Jazz that much.,

Except: We're talking about Morey. He should be able to sort this out over a cup of coffee. However, I do have a question. Is the offer sheet even legal? Essentially my read of it, Reed has to play a full season (seasons two and three) to determine if he's going to be paid. I think the Sixers should challenge the offer sheet for making no sense.

In other words: Match it, but a letter to both the commissioner and the player's union that you're planning to challenge the agreement that Reed might have to play two full seasons without compensation. I can't believe the league and/or the union would agree to such trickery.

We haven't seen the agreement, but it seems fishy.

I am not following. The first season is guaranteed. If the team holding the contract advances to the second round, then the next season becomes guaranteed. Then the same thing for the final year.

He will know after year 1 if he will be a free agent or the next season was guaranteed.

Thank you for clarifying. So effectively it's a one-year contract. I'm not a lawyer, but I would still match the offer with a legal challenge to the validity of the year two and year three provisions. Call Ainge out. One basic question because precedent is important: Is this a first-time-ever arrangement of this sort? Embarrass Ainge, Silver and the players' association if they support this sham. Just a thought.

[Mik317]

they are going to hit the tax regardless as we still have 3 spots to fill

[GoSixersBro]

Oh no, the vinsider has spoken!

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Dueling insiders!!!

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They are irrelevant. Has Marc Jackson's brother's friend's friend's friend checked in?

We need a shorter moniker for him - how about MJBFFF?

My friend's friend who is friends with MJ's brother (MFFWFWMJB) is batting 1000 (1/1) so don't be lumping him in with Twitter bums please.

[youngcrev]

they are going to hit the tax regardless as we still have 3 spots to fill

That's where the Furkan trade comes in...

[76ciology]

Were not wasting Embiid’s prime. Giannis and Jokic never had more talent than what Embiid had.

They had far better built teams that masks the deficiencies of their stars. Morey seems to know only how to build one way, get a star, and then get more stars.

Doesn't work around the margins, and then just gets has been players who are washed or former Rockets.

I'm actually shocked that we didn't get Eric Gordon.

I think you need to play more speed or ball movement if you want to play without overloaded top tier stars, which is contrary to an Embiid centric team. But im giving Nurse a chance to unlock this problem.

[Negrodamus]

Joel really does seem like a great guy. “I’m just happy to be his friend” is too wholesome.

That was my second thought he I heard him say that...

... my first was "this'll probably be turned into a meme".