drekwins wrote:HopelessKnick wrote:drekwins wrote:
I love how when I brought up the migrant crisis, his response was, "that has nothing to do with this"... when that literally preceded this war by only months. Then, he immediately brings up something that happened two decades ago and has NOTHING to do with this conflict whatsoever.
Worse, they're arguing about how terrible Americas invasion of Iraq was, while at the same time, using it as justification for what they are doing now lol How does that make sense? You can't say it was so terrible and wrong, but then use it as a moral equivalent for your current actions. That is madness.
This is all predictable, as Russians apologists and shills love to do, they continually live in the past. They will frequently bring up events from 20 years ago... Russians love to re-write ancient history. They even cite the World Wars quite often. No one in America lives with that time-frame in mind. No one is re-litigating WW1 or WW2 in America. No one even thinks about it. It was several generations ago. We do not care. That time has come and passed.
These shills just love to talk in circles. It's asinine.
I didn't want to go into detail but you make it somewhat necessary. Your entire post reeks of ignorance-it just literally shows that you have absolutely ZERO clue at the origins of the migrant crisis, what caused it, how it came about etc.--anyone that followed the middle east and european policy during the past 20 years will simply scoff at the notion that the belarussian--Poland border migrant crisis had anything to do with the outbreak of the Russia-Ukraine war. In fact they will think you have gone completely crazy if you state something like that. Don't take my word for it---read up on the causes. It is so mind-boggling to be reading something like that.
When the syrian migrant crisis broke out (2015), Erdogan used it as a means of getting concessions from the EU countries, a la "you give me this and that, and if not I'll be sending all these waves of syrian refugees to europe" ---at that point Turkey had sheltered millions of syrian refugees. The EU caved, as they didn't want to be faced with millions of additional refugees so they literally paid Erdogan to keep the refugees in Turkey.
In August 2020 there were presidential elections in Belarus. Lukashenko allegedly won with 80% of the votes. The legitimacy of the vote was questioned, protests erupted and Lukashenko squashed them, using many means of violence. The EU put sanctions on Lukashenko and Belarus in September 2020. Trying to get off of these sanctions and blackmailing the EU, he used the Erdogan situation as a role model to put pressure on the EU countries in trying to create another migrant crisis. The belarussians, used travel agencies and enticed IRAQIS and AFGHANS (that's why I brought up the wars of 20 years ago because their effects are still massive in those countries and people willingly jumped for these sarcastic offers) as well as lebanese people and people from Jordan with unrestricted tourist visas. He accumulated refugees and flew them in and tried to unload them at the polish border to create a crisis there to put pressure on the EU and get off of the sanctions. Poland closed the border and built strong fences and sent the police/military---in the cold winter months many migrants freezed to death. The EU didn't cave, they took some of the refugees and the majority, which stemmed from IRAQ, were flown back. This was that story in a nutshell.
Now instead of posting that nonsense you just posted, you could have taken the time and educated yourself on the origin and course of that crisis instead of just repeating the same nonsense. You know repeating nonsense does not make it true.The absolutely stupid, ignorant and asinine nature of such a comment only reveals your utter ignorance and laziness in refusing to take a little time to actually research the crisis. You made yourself only look like a complete fool. Anyone that wants to know the origins of that crisis can read it online. No source will even hint at it having anything to do with the Russia-Ukraine war.
You are a master manipulator and deflector. How about Lukashenko saying that he would allow nuclear weapons and terrorists through? There are many quotes of this. How do you justify this? Your entire goal is to muddy the waters. They are not muddy here. There is zero justification. As I said previously, I hope for and can't wait for the fall of the Russian Federation and Belarus. I personally know people within Russia organizing resistance. The fall of Russia is coming and it will be swift.
-Proud Lithuanian/Polish American
What?
Does what you are writing make even the slightest sense even to yourself? You were originally saying the border crisis had something to do with the war----I showed that you have no clue what you are talking about. Literally the entirety of the border crisis is out there for everyone to read up on. It is all online in multiple sources. No one has even to believe in the slightest what I am saying. Anyone interested in the subject can read it up online. Anyone interested can take any single source out there----you won't fing anything that implies that the Belarus-Poland migrant crisis had any connection to the Russia-Ukraine war whatsoever. I question your reading comprehension a lot.I said in my previous post that Lukashenko tried to blackmail the EU and tried to gain concessions but failed to succeed. I explicitly pointed out how he acted in flying in migrants with false promises to blackmail and pressure the EU.....How is that muddying the waters?
You come back essentially saying---how do you justify Lukashenko blackmailing the EU? LOL what?
Still it has nothing to do with the outbreak of the Ukraine war. Zero.
It is actually somewhat comical to what great lengths people go in making fools out of themselves. Reading up on the border crisis could have spared you the embarassment---but I guess where ignorance reigns even 30 minutes of effort are too much to ask for.
A quote comes to my mind:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein
