Around The League 2022-2023 season

[Furinkazan]

Let's overreact to Summer league Wemby looks like defensive guy only with no motor(taller Mo Bamba). Miller is a chucker, Scoot and Amen are both damaged goods.

Perfect time for our guy Black to step in and win ROY!!!!

I dont really care about them as they are not on my team...they are non existant to me

[jonbob17]

So on todays Ringer NBA show The Mismatch Chris Vernon told this story.

He said last year predraft, Mike Miller reached out to him. He said Mike Miller came on their podcast several years ago like 2016 or something and said that Nikola Jokic was going to be a 10X All NBA guy, and was basically calling his shot before it happened. So last year Mike Miller wanted to get that tape of the podcast, and Chris Vernon went and tracked it down for him and sent it to him. He saw him a bit later and asked if that tape help him sign a player...and Miller was like nah, man...My guy wanted to go number one, and i used that tape with Orlando to show that i hit on these, alluding to Paolo being great.

https://www.theringer.com/2023/7/9/23789181/the-wembanyama-experience-and-summer-league-observations

[RookieStar]

So on todays Ringer NBA show The Mismatch Chris Vernon told this story.

He said last year predraft, Mike Miller reached out to him. He said Mike Miller came on their podcast several years ago like 2016 or something and said that Nikola Jokic was going to be a 10X All NBA guy, and was basically calling his shot before it happened. So last year Mike Miller wanted to get that tape of the podcast, and Chris Vernon went and tracked it down for him and sent it to him. He saw him a bit later and asked if that tape help him sign a player...and Miller was like nah, man...My guy wanted to go number one, and i used that tape with Orlando to show that i hit on these, alluding to Paolo being great.

https://www.theringer.com/2023/7/9/23789181/the-wembanyama-experience-and-summer-league-observations

So who is this guy that wanted to be #1 and Miller used Paolo as an example?

[jonbob17]

So on todays Ringer NBA show The Mismatch Chris Vernon told this story.

He said last year predraft, Mike Miller reached out to him. He said Mike Miller came on their podcast several years ago like 2016 or something and said that Nikola Jokic was going to be a 10X All NBA guy, and was basically calling his shot before it happened. So last year Mike Miller wanted to get that tape of the podcast, and Chris Vernon went and tracked it down for him and sent it to him. He saw him a bit later and asked if that tape help him sign a player...and Miller was like nah, man...My guy wanted to go number one, and i used that tape with Orlando to show that i hit on these, alluding to Paolo being great.

https://www.theringer.com/2023/7/9/23789181/the-wembanyama-experience-and-summer-league-observations

So who is this guy that wanted to be #1 and Miller used Paolo as an example?

Miller is Paolo's agent, Vernon was saying that Miller used the podcast hyping Jokic in 2016 to sell the Magic on Paolo at 1.

[RookieStar]

So on todays Ringer NBA show The Mismatch Chris Vernon told this story.

He said last year predraft, Mike Miller reached out to him. He said Mike Miller came on their podcast several years ago like 2016 or something and said that Nikola Jokic was going to be a 10X All NBA guy, and was basically calling his shot before it happened. So last year Mike Miller wanted to get that tape of the podcast, and Chris Vernon went and tracked it down for him and sent it to him. He saw him a bit later and asked if that tape help him sign a player...and Miller was like nah, man...My guy wanted to go number one, and i used that tape with Orlando to show that i hit on these, alluding to Paolo being great.

https://www.theringer.com/2023/7/9/23789181/the-wembanyama-experience-and-summer-league-observations

So who is this guy that wanted to be #1 and Miller used Paolo as an example?

Miller is Paolo's agent, Vernon was saying that Miller used the podcast hyping Jokic in 2016 to sell the Magic on Paolo at 1.

OH that's what it meant. Thanks.

[jezzerinho]

So, out of our fellow basement-dwelling rebuild teams,
Houston is pushing the accelerator
Indiana now rumoured to be pushing the accelerator by going after Siakam
Detroit made minor moves so far but have been liked with some bigger swings, seems like they want to speed up the rebuild
Utah signed Collins, missed out on Reed and seemingly tried a package for Lillard on the Blazers.

Only OKC and Orl are sticking with the pure youth route, it seems.

[eyriq]

So, out of our fellow basement-dwelling rebuild teams,
Houston is pushing the accelerator
Indiana now rumoured to be pushing the accelerator by going after Siakam
Detroit made minor moves so far but have been liked with some bigger swings, seems like they want to speed up the rebuild
Utah signed Collins, missed out on Reed and seemingly tried a package for Lillard on the Blazers.

Only OKC and Orl are sticking with the pure youth route, it seems.

I was thinking about knowing we failed to contend over the next 6 years and what that meant likely went wrong.

The main thing I'd assume is that none of Paolo, Franz, Suggs, Black, or Jett developed into All-NBA players AND we failed to trade for one.

Honestly this rests mostly on the shoulders of Paolo, as he matches the All-NBA profile.

So, the roster construction and cap management stuff are secondary to just hitting on Paolo. Which is to say, the only two basement dwellers that I think are on track are the Thunder and Magic. Which places their preference for a pure youth route in a special light.

[jonbob17]

So, out of our fellow basement-dwelling rebuild teams,
Houston is pushing the accelerator
Indiana now rumoured to be pushing the accelerator by going after Siakam
Detroit made minor moves so far but have been liked with some bigger swings, seems like they want to speed up the rebuild
Utah signed Collins, missed out on Reed and seemingly tried a package for Lillard on the Blazers.

Only OKC and Orl are sticking with the pure youth route, it seems.

I was thinking about knowing we failed to contend over the next 6 years and what that meant likely went wrong.

The main thing I'd assume is that none of Paolo, Franz, Suggs, Black, or Jett developed into All-NBA players AND we failed to trade for one.

Honestly this rests mostly on the shoulders of Paolo, as he matches the All-NBA profile.

So, the roster construction and cap management stuff are secondary to just hitting on Paolo. Which is to say, the only two basement dwellers that I think are on track are the Thunder and Magic. Which places their preference for a pure youth route in a special light.

Really only the thunder and Magic? Like you said you basically need one All-nba type

Pacers - Haliburton, maybe Walker
Detroit - Cade, Ivey, Thompson
Houston - Jabari Smith, Green, Thompson, Sengun, Whitmore...with Vanvleet and Brooks(who I hate) its conceivable they finish higher than the Magic this year with big jumps from Smith, Green, or Sengun. I am not making that bet, but that team is talented. Flawed but talented.
Portland - Scoot, Simons, Sharpe
San Antonio - Wemby, Vassell, Johnson
Charlotte - Lamelo, Brandon Miller, Miles Bridges

Honestly, any of these teams could make a jump if one or more of these young guys hits. I'd agree OKC and Magic are best positioned. Frankly, I'd kind of be surprised if OKC doesn't make a massive jump this year, but the West is so deep, its kind of hard to guarantee them the 5th seed. We are going to have our hands full in a few years...these young teams could be right with us, plus add some of the current contenders that are already young, plus teams that retool.

This might be the most competitive NBA season of the past 50 years.

[NavalAviator94]

So, out of our fellow basement-dwelling rebuild teams,
Houston is pushing the accelerator
Indiana now rumoured to be pushing the accelerator by going after Siakam
Detroit made minor moves so far but have been liked with some bigger swings, seems like they want to speed up the rebuild
Utah signed Collins, missed out on Reed and seemingly tried a package for Lillard on the Blazers.

Only OKC and Orl are sticking with the pure youth route, it seems.

I was thinking about knowing we failed to contend over the next 6 years and what that meant likely went wrong.

The main thing I'd assume is that none of Paolo, Franz, Suggs, Black, or Jett developed into All-NBA players AND we failed to trade for one.

Honestly this rests mostly on the shoulders of Paolo, as he matches the All-NBA profile.

So, the roster construction and cap management stuff are secondary to just hitting on Paolo. Which is to say, the only two basement dwellers that I think are on track are the Thunder and Magic. Which places their preference for a pure youth route in a special light.

Really only the thunder and Magic? Like you said you basically need one All-nba type

Pacers - Haliburton, maybe Walker
Detroit - Cade, Ivey, Thompson
Houston - Jabari Smith, Green, Thompson, Sengun, Whitmore...with Vanvleet and Brooks(who I hate) its conceivable they finish higher than the Magic this year with big jumps from Smith, Green, or Sengun. I am not making that bet, but that team is talented. Flawed but talented.
Portland - Scoot, Simons, Sharpe
San Antonio - Wemby, Vassell, Johnson
Charlotte - Lamelo, Brandon Miller, Miles Bridges

Honestly, any of these teams could make a jump if one or more of these young guys hits. I'd agree OKC and Magic are best positioned. Frankly, I'd kind of be surprised if OKC doesn't make a massive jump this year, but the West is so deep, its kind of hard to guarantee them the 5th seed. We are going to have our hands full in a few years...these young teams could be right with us, plus add some of the current contenders that are already young, plus teams that retool.

This might be the most competitive NBA season of the past 50 years.

I would add Mathurin for the Pacers also. Indiana is much better than their record and if they do trade for Siakam, I think they could be fighting for home court as long as Haliburton stays healthy. He is so good.

[eyriq]

So, out of our fellow basement-dwelling rebuild teams,
Houston is pushing the accelerator
Indiana now rumoured to be pushing the accelerator by going after Siakam
Detroit made minor moves so far but have been liked with some bigger swings, seems like they want to speed up the rebuild
Utah signed Collins, missed out on Reed and seemingly tried a package for Lillard on the Blazers.

Only OKC and Orl are sticking with the pure youth route, it seems.

I was thinking about knowing we failed to contend over the next 6 years and what that meant likely went wrong.

The main thing I'd assume is that none of Paolo, Franz, Suggs, Black, or Jett developed into All-NBA players AND we failed to trade for one.

Honestly this rests mostly on the shoulders of Paolo, as he matches the All-NBA profile.

So, the roster construction and cap management stuff are secondary to just hitting on Paolo. Which is to say, the only two basement dwellers that I think are on track are the Thunder and Magic. Which places their preference for a pure youth route in a special light.

Really only the thunder and Magic? Like you said you basically need one All-nba type

Pacers - Haliburton, maybe Walker
Detroit - Cade, Ivey, Thompson
Houston - Jabari Smith, Green, Thompson, Sengun, Whitmore...with Vanvleet and Brooks(who I hate) its conceivable they finish higher than the Magic this year with big jumps from Smith, Green, or Sengun. I am not making that bet, but that team is talented. Flawed but talented.
Portland - Scoot, Simons, Sharpe
San Antonio - Wemby, Vassell, Johnson
Charlotte - Lamelo, Brandon Miller, Miles Bridges

Honestly, any of these teams could make a jump if one or more of these young guys hits. I'd agree OKC and Magic are best positioned. Frankly, I'd kind of be surprised if OKC doesn't make a massive jump this year, but the West is so deep, its kind of hard to guarantee them the 5th seed. We are going to have our hands full in a few years...these young teams could be right with us, plus add some of the current contenders that are already young, plus teams that retool.

This might be the most competitive NBA season of the past 50 years.

Hmm, fair points. There is a lot of potential All-NBA blood out there

[eyriq]

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[Bensational]

Herro to Toronto, Siakam to Indiana, INDY FRP to Portland (Portland should push for Walker instead).

Or Herro to Utah for Hendricks or a FRP (they have Collins now, might give him up).

[tiderulz]

Herro to Toronto, Siakam to Indiana, INDY FRP to Portland (Portland should push for Walker instead).

Or Herro to Utah for Hendricks or a FRP (they have Collins now, might give him up).

I think Toronto looks to get more for Siakam than just Herro.

[eyriq]

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Unknowns include Heat, Nets, and 76ers.

NETS???

[eyriq]

The unknowns are a result of the pending Harden and Lillard trades. I guess the Nets are favorites to get Herro?

[Skybox]

Cam Whitmore “stuffs the stat sheet”…dude is immensely talented, particularly at his draft position, but ONE assist in 30 mins for a guy who handles the ball ?

Can’t wait to watch the fireworks in HOU as Whit, Green, Brooks, KPJ all take the shot every time they touch the ball. Udoka & FVV’s jobs as “grownup offensive mediators” got a lot tougher. Amen, Jabari, and Sengun aspire to be more than supporting cast…The #1 critique of Cam was his AAU-level blinders and his breakout game might have coaches more concerned than excited.

Not knocking him, just might be a problematic fit in HOU…Green might already be demanding a trade

[Skin]

Would you help Miami get Lillard if it meant getting Herro?

POR wants 4 1sts and young talented players on rookie deals. MIA willing to give 3 picks and Herro, but need to find a taker for Herro to secure another 1st and a young player.

We could give DEN 1st or our own 1st + Suggs to Portland for Herro. MIA gets Lillard. POR gets Suggs and 4 1sts.

[jezzerinho]

Would you help Miami get Lillard if it meant getting Herro?

POR wants 4 1sts and young talented players on rookie deals. MIA willing to give 3 picks and Herro, but need to find a taker for Herro to secure another 1st and a young player.

We could give DEN 1st or our own 1st + Suggs to Portland for Herro. MIA gets Lillard. POR gets Suggs and 4 1sts.

Lillard is going to Miami one way or the other, so the concept of "helping" them is a bit redundant.

[basketballRob]

Would you help Miami get Lillard if it meant getting Herro?

POR wants 4 1sts and young talented players on rookie deals. MIA willing to give 3 picks and Herro, but need to find a taker for Herro to secure another 1st and a young player.

We could give DEN 1st or our own 1st + Suggs to Portland for Herro. MIA gets Lillard. POR gets Suggs and 4 1sts.

Suggs is better than Herro if he stays healthy. So I'm sure Portland would go for it.

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[Skin]

Would you help Miami get Lillard if it meant getting Herro?

POR wants 4 1sts and young talented players on rookie deals. MIA willing to give 3 picks and Herro, but need to find a taker for Herro to secure another 1st and a young player.

We could give DEN 1st or our own 1st + Suggs to Portland for Herro. MIA gets Lillard. POR gets Suggs and 4 1sts.

Suggs is better than Herro if he stays healthy. So I'm sure Portland would go for it.

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Somehow I feel like if Herro was on our team, your feels would be flipped. Only the imagination of what Suggs could be is better than Herro.