pepe1991 wrote:zaymon wrote:pepe1991 wrote:
Your criticsm about him is unfair and not really objecitve. It feel more like unnecessary "hate" more than anything else.
Lebron James was 6'8 guy who grew up as playmaker. He spent almost whole career in nba playin with ball and offense was always his biggest drawing card. At his best , Lebron was never anything more than slightly above average defender who in his entire career only had 1 amazing 1 on 1 defense, on 22 years old , no jumpshot 6'3 PG Derrick Rose. Guys like Kawhi, George, Melo, Wade always got their stats against him.
If you expected 7'5 , 19 years old kid to have body of prime Shaq i really don't know what to tell you. Fact that guy can self tip himself into casual dunk in middle of play on set defense and brick floater, land, jump on other side, tip ball to himself and set teammate into dunk is just crazy. If you can't see his potential on defense, again, i really don't know what to tell you. He today, probably has bigger impact on defense than Lebron ever had at any point in his career.
Again, Lebron was never elite 1 on 1 defender and never all that great off ball defender. Most teams spent their time hiding him on worst possible matchup out there. For crying out loud, against prime Warriors, instad of guarding Durant, they were sending him on Draymoond Green on regular bases. Go rewatch his prime on Miami, he was guardin Boris Diaw every game
You can probably get away with crappy 4 defenders and Victor in a middle and your defense will still look way better than it should. Basically Gobert , just without stone hands, without boneheaded play etc.
You can limit his offense on strict pick&roll , shots around rim. He would probably finish season on 65% FG. but that's not how you will get most of him. I'm more than confident in my claim that VIctor today is top 10 nba center, without single game played.
I have no idea what you are arguing about. I just wrote that he will propably be great defender. I wonder how he will do in the playoffs against switches but in regular season he will be great.
Who expected Shaq ? I just dont understand your post sorry. 3/4 of the post you are arguing about something i didnt wrote and thing about offense ? Yes he is a freak and he makes freaky plays. Freaky plays wont make offense great as we saw with Bol. Until we see consistency its all speculation. One bad game doesnt make him a bust but one good game doesnt make him best prospect since Lebron.
btw Doncic was a lot better prospect.Offensively he has a long way to go and is nowhere near Lebron as prospect, he is not even best offensive prospect in this draft. One game shots will fall, other game shots will not fall but he is not a genius passer and he cant go all the way to the rim with his dribble and lack of strength. He cant even do it against below g league talent.
You literally compared him to Lebron on offense because you really expect similar skillset on 6'8 and 7'5 body. Than you bring up Bol.
And Luka is amazing player and elite prospect and arived in draft as most acomplished sub 20 years old player probably ever, but let's not pretend that since Luka's arrival his career exponentionally surpassed- white -Harden stanards, because it didn't.
Does that mean Luka can't or won't ever lead team to championships? No. But i'm judging him on what he showcased in nba to this point. Great personal stats, great playoff perfomances, too self- centric, struggles to play with other stars,best used when he is only elite player on court.
Would you sleep better if people compare VW to Anthony Davis instad? Not all superstar players need to be ball dominant, self centric , 35% usage rate players.
Imo, he doesn't have comparison, but his ceiling is some modern day Jabbar. Insaine size, crazy potential, elite instics, when he matures he will average 20 ppg without even trying and due his impossible to match size, he will be human FTA magnet.
I was not comparing Victor to Lebron as a player i was comparing them as level of prospect.
