Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24

ddb · Post #1741 » by **ddb** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:54 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:I like how Larry hasn’t lost a step in proposing trades (his 28,629h unique one by my count) amidst all the chaotic discussion. You da the realGM MVP.

I second this. At the very least they are entertaining. In honor of Larry, here's one.

Brogdon, Pritchard, Champagnie (filler) & 1st rd pick (Top 10 protected) for Powell & Mann.

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zoyathedestroya · Post #1742 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:55 pm

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I’d rather Cs have that and I don’t even like DDR’s game lol.

Hal14 · Post #1743 » by **Hal14** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:02 pm

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Post #1744 » by **darrendaye** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:02 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:

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He's hitting those 3's, mmmmph...

Hal14 · Post #1745 » by **Hal14** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:08 pm

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F&ck it, he looks pretty good. And he's listed at 6'11", 240 lbs but in this vid he looks closer to 6'10" but that's still good size. Still young (age 25), Tatum's close friend. At least give him like a non-guaranteed deal so can compete for a roster spot in training camp.

hugepatsfan · Post #1746 » by **hugepatsfan** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:09 pm

Saying someone looks 6'10" vs. 6'11" over a video is wild lol

zoyathedestroya · Post #1747 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:13 pm

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Hal14 · Post #1748 » by **Hal14** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:16 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:Saying someone looks 6'10" vs. 6'11" over a video is wild lol

Not really, dude. Height matters in basketball quite a bit. An inch or 2 can make a big difference. You've never watched a game on TV and thought, "gee, that player looks more like 6'10" than 6'9" or that player looks more like 6'5" than 6'4" ? If not, that's fine. Maybe you don't care about that stuff, or maybe you don't have an eye for it. I used to be a HS basketball reporter where often times rosters at the games didn't have heights listed (or they list incorrect heights). So I tried to get pretty good at guessing them..

You pick the most random things to argue about. It's also pretty weird that your troll comment (which added nothing at all of value to the discussion) was posted exactly ONE minute after my post. So you just couldn't wait - you rushed to your computer and jumped so quickly at the chance to troll :noway:

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #1749 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:22 pm

This I can believe...

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Post #1750 » by **djFan71** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:26 pm

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He's thinking even harder than Jaylen whilst dribbling.

playa-hater · Post #1751 » by **playa-hater** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:28 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
ddb wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
You failed to mention that JB doesn't really like Boston as well.

This is simply not true AT ALL.

Don't let truth get in the way of a good story. This board has a ton of really great story tellers.

Just re-read his own quotes. That tells you a lot. Or maybe you can't read in between the story lines.

Post #1752 » by **darrendaye** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:40 pm

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Did they ever identify where the 3 2nd round picks were coming from? Wasn't there debate on whether Dallas even had them to give? Bob from accounting might have derailed this thing. 8-)

Or they are just waiting on the Thunder to join in on the fun.

hugepatsfan · Post #1753 » by **hugepatsfan** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:40 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:This I can believe...

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Isn't 27 fake? I though droppingdime20 was the real one

keevsnick1 · Post #1754 » by **keevsnick1** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:50 pm

Well regardless of why exactly the JB extension isn't done at least its given the internet an extra 11 days so far of JB trade posts.

hugepatsfan · Post #1755 » by **hugepatsfan** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:58 pm

I believe with the new CBA, since we'd be over the 2nd apron if we did a deal, we can take back 110% of what we send out in a trade. So in that Grant Williams deal, I think instead of a $6,279.070 TPE we could take back $6,906,977 through salary matching, so maybe there's someone in that in-between cost range we could expand the deal for.

Also, since DAL had their Thybulle offer sheet matched, they have more room under the tax. Maybe they want to use that to front load Grant's deal to help cap down the line? They'd want to exhaust other options for their MLE first though.

Larry_Russell · Post #1756 » by **Larry_Russell** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:00 pm

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It is 100% a need.

chrisab123 · Post #1757 » by **chrisab123** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:04 pm

I could 100% see the Celtics figuring out a way to get Saddiq Bey and or Deandre Hunter

Post #1758 » by **snowman** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:05 pm

Recap of Jaylen Brown contract situation so far:

The reason Brown wants a no trade clause is that he is fully aware what the size of his contract will do to the Celtica financials over the length of his contract. He understands that he will be the most likely to be moved, if money becomes a problem, because of it. He just wants a say in where he goes when that time comes. If he doesn't have the NTC, then Boston can send him wherever they want, and he can't really do anything about it except pull a Harden/Dame move. Solid reason from him to protect his future and can't blame him at all.

The reason the Celtics don't want to give Brown the NTC is because Brown can pull a Beal move and demand he only go to a certain team. Of course, he could do this without a NTC, like Dame is doing now, but it will make him look like an ass to the fans of all the teams except the fans of the team he wants to go to. If, as with the Beal situation, Brown has a NTC, and only wants one team, then Boston loses major value for an asset they can't afford to lose. This is also solid reasoning from them Celtics to protect their future and can't blame them at all either.

Boston could elect to trade Brown now, and lose major value, because of Brown only having this upcoming season under contract, and he might not resign with the team he is traded to. So, why would a team give up much for basically a rental. Boston could also piss Tatum off by trading Brown now. Also, whatever the outcome, in regard to the NTC for Brown, you can bet will also be demanded by Tatum when his option for a new contract comes up in 2 years.

I have been a strong supporter of resigning Brown, no matter the cost, and deal with the rest down the line. I am beginning to lean to the side of trade him now, and not have this hanging over the heads of the team all season (rip the band-aid off). Brad will need to get Tatum to sign off on it of course. I don't feel that we are going after Dame, because if he truly only wants to go to Miami, then we are trading one problem for another. I believe that Portland would move Dame to Miami today, if they had Jaylen coming back to them. I also believe that Brad is at least looking at Siakam, but not sure if he wants to get him, because he is on the last year of his contract. Rumor has it that Brad is also looking at Saddiq Bey from Atlanta, so it could be the basis of a three-team deal there. Who knows?

GoCeltics123 · Post #1759 » by **GoCeltics123** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:05 pm

The great, never-wrong Chris Mannix on Ryen Russillo's pod said he's heard "nothing but optimism" from Celtics people he's talked to about the Jaylen deal getting done and that they keep telling him it'll get done.

Mannix has never been wrong about anything before, right? Right...

GoCeltics123 · Post #1760 » by **GoCeltics123** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:06 pm

snowman wrote:Recap of Jaylen Brown contract situation so far:

Spoiler:
The reason Brown wants a no trade clause is that he is fully aware what the size of his contract will do to the Celtica financials over the length of his contract. He understands that he will be the most likely to be moved, if money becomes a problem, because of it. He just wants a say in where he goes when that time comes. If he doesn't have the NTC, then Boston can send him wherever they want, and he can't really do anything about it except pull a Harden/Dame move. Solid reason from him to protect his future and can't blame him at all.

The reason the Celtics don't want to give Brown the NTC is because Brown can pull a Beal move and demand he only go to a certain team. Of course, he could do this without a NTC, like Dame is doing now, but it will make him look like an ass to the fans of all the teams except the fans of the team he wants to go to. If, as with the Beal situation, Brown has a NTC, and only wants one team, then Boston loses major value for an asset they can't afford to lose. This is also solid reasoning from them Celtics to protect their future and can't blame them at all either.

Boston could elect to trade Brown now, and lose major value, because of Brown only having this upcoming season under contract, and he might not resign with the team he is traded to. So, why would a team give up much for basically a rental. Boston could also piss Tatum off by trading Brown now. Also, whatever the outcome, in regard to the NTC for Brown, you can bet will also be demanded by Tatum when his option for a new contract comes up in 2 years.

I have been a strong supporter of resigning Brown, no matter the cost, and deal with the rest down the line. I am beginning to lean to the side of trade him now, and not have this hanging over the heads of the team all season (rip the band-aid off). Brad will need to get Tatum to sign off on it of course. I don't feel that we are going after Dame, because if he truly only wants to go to Miami, then we are trading one problem for another. I believe that Portland would move Dame to Miami today, if they had Jaylen coming back to them. I also believe that Brad is at least looking at Siakam, but not sure if he wants to get him, because he is on the last year of his contract. Rumor has it that Brad is also looking at Saddiq Bey from Atlanta, so it could be the basis of a three-team deal there. Who knows?

I'm going to save you the time, he's not eligible for a NTC and that's not what they're haggling over