Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24

ryan in Maine · Post #1841 » by **ryan in Maine** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:28 pm

Brad prob working on a trade that hasn't been discussed itt yet lol

zoyathedestroya · Post #1842 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:29 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:Ramona Shelburne just said on NBA Today that she's heard "progress" was made with Jaylen's contract. Mentioned the same things others have mentioned, a lot of the wait is the little details on the contract like bonuses and trade kickers, both sides want to get it done, etc etc

Aka the same stuff we've been hearing the whole time

6:48 in this video:

Watch on YouTube

A whole lot of nothing. No new info.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1843 » by **GoCeltics123** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:36 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:Ramona Shelburne just said on NBA Today that she's heard "progress" was made with Jaylen's contract. Mentioned the same things others have mentioned, a lot of the wait is the little details on the contract like bonuses and trade kickers, both sides want to get it done, etc etc

Aka the same stuff we've been hearing the whole time

6:48 in this video:

Watch on YouTube

A whole lot of nothing. No new info.

"Progress has been made on this situation. I don't want to say if I know if it's been good progress or not"

I know Ramona is a Lakers propagandist but god she is terrible sometimes

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1844 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:40 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Get those 2nd Rounders ready...

Read on Twitter

Washington was selling really low on Porzingis, which is why Morris/filler (and then Tyus Jones/filler) worked.

Now, unless there's a sell low opportunity - Siakam, Lavine? - I think it'd take Powell+1st, maybe more than LAC wants to pay.

But they have Covington too, Morris is expiring - they could get creative with a third team.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1845 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:40 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:Ramona Shelburne just said on NBA Today that she's heard "progress" was made with Jaylen's contract. Mentioned the same things others have mentioned, a lot of the wait is the little details on the contract like bonuses and trade kickers, both sides want to get it done, etc etc

Aka the same stuff we've been hearing the whole time

6:48 in this video:

Watch on YouTube

A whole lot of nothing. No new info.

"Progress has been made on this situation. I don't want to say if I know if it's been good progress or not"

I know Ramona is a Lakers propagandist but god she is terrible sometimes

Bad progress towards a trade........

hugepatsfan · Post #1846 » by **hugepatsfan** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:48 pm

Hal14 wrote:
hugepatsfan wrote:Saying someone looks 6'10" vs. 6'11" over a video is wild lol

Not really, dude. Height matters in basketball quite a bit. An inch or 2 can make a big difference. You've never watched a game on TV and thought, "gee, that player looks more like 6'10" than 6'9" or that player looks more like 6'5" than 6'4" ? If not, that's fine. Maybe you don't care about that stuff, or maybe you don't have an eye for it. I used to be a HS basketball reporter where often times rosters at the games didn't have heights listed (or they list incorrect heights). So I tried to get pretty good at guessing them..

You pick the most random things to argue about. It's also pretty weird that your troll comment (which added nothing at all of value to the discussion) was posted exactly ONE minute after my post. So you just couldn't wait - you rushed to your computer and jumped so quickly at the chance to troll

Height is very important. No argument there from me. If I see a forward supposedly 6'7" standing next to a guard listed at 6'4" and they seem same height I definitely raise an eyebrow. I do find it very hard to believe that you or anyone can tell 6'10" vs. 6'11" over a video where there isn't even any shot of him standing straight up or next to anyone whose height we know in a still shot.

I didn't mean to argue though. Not sure what other arguments over random things I've picked either? But there was definitely no ill intent. I just chuckled a bit at the 6'10" vs. 6'11" precision. As for the one minute thing, I just happened to open the forum shortly after you posted.

But yeah, can't stress enough that I in no way meant an argument haha

ddb · Post #1847 » by **ddb** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:52 pm

Hal14 wrote:Available unrestricted free agents..

Christian Wood
Kelly Oubre
Terence Davis
Wes Matthews
Willy Hernangomez
Justice Winslow
Austin Rivers
Derrick Jones Jr
Darius Bazley
Kendrick Nunn
Trendon Watford
Hamidou Diallo
TJ Warren
Blake Griffin
Javonte Green
Bismack Biyombo
JaMychal Green
Wenyen Gabriel
Jaylen Nowell
Terrence Ross
Will Barton
Alize Johnson
Ish Smith
Juan Toscano-Anderson
Marko Simonovic
Harry Giles
Glenn Robinson III
Edy Tavares
Kyle Guy
Georgios Papagiannis

I'm gonna chuckle to myself when Utah signs Justice Winslow

leper-con · Post #1848 » by **leper-con** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:53 pm

Should we be trying to target Paul George for draft picks and filler? How soon before the clippers decide this isn't working and want to recoup some capital?

zoyathedestroya · Post #1849 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:59 pm

From last month:

Watch on YouTube

zoyathedestroya · Post #1850 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:05 pm

Celtics prepping their duckboats for June of next year... You should book your tickets now.

Post #1851 » by **165bows** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:15 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:From last month:

Watch on YouTube

I know he’s not a good three point shooter yet but DDR gets a lot of flak for what seems like a really really good dude.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1852 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:21 pm

Too bad Isaiah Stewart got his extension, thought we'd be able to steal him for a 1st

BK_2020 · Post #1853 » by **BK_2020** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:21 pm

I am genuinely puzzled why DDR is such a poor three point shooter. The guy is obviously a good shooter. The last 3 seasons he's been hovering at 87-88% from the line on high volume. Maybe he just needs to start chucking a bunch of threes and get comfortable.

sam_I_am · Post #1854 » by **sam_I_am** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:21 pm

Interesting ranking of potential 2024free agents.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-nba-free-agent-rankings/

BK_2020 · Post #1855 » by **BK_2020** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:25 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Interesting ranking of potential 2024free agents.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-nba-free-agent-rankings/

2026 is the cream of the crop FA class (Tatum, Mitchell, Bam, Giannis, Fox, Shai, Bridges, JJJ, Jarrett Allen) but my guess is none of the top players actually make it to FA.

Hal14 · Post #1856 » by **Hal14** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:27 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Too bad Isaiah Stewart got his extension, thought we'd be able to steal him for a 1st

You don't trade a 1st round pick for a guy who's just gonna be your 4th big..especially a guy who (at the time was) on an expiring contract.

Before the Porzingis trade, sure he was a guy I would have liked for us to try and get. Didn't really make sense after adding KP, though..

GoGreen · Post #1857 » by **GoGreen** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:28 pm

Yup. Harden going anywhere but LA is good for a potential Brogdan deal.

I like Malcolm but he is unreliable. Even playing the fewest minutes he had in years he still managed to get hurt at an inopportune moment. Besides, between him, Zinger and Rob that's some heavy reliance on too many injury prone guys.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1858 » by **GoCeltics123** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:33 pm

If the Clippers come back around to Brogdon, tell them the convo starts with Norman Powell

Post #1859 » by **165bows** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:37 pm

BK_2020 wrote:I am genuinely puzzled why DDR is such a poor three point shooter. The guy is obviously a good shooter. The last 3 seasons he's been hovering at 87-88% from the line on high volume. Maybe he just needs to start chucking a bunch of threes and get comfortable.

A smaller part of why I was bullish on getting him. Sometimes guys figure it out, no one saw Horford or Brook Lopez being three point shooters. Plus like you said, he's got a lot of pieces in place, it's not like hoping a guy that can't even hit a FT is suddenly going to be Pete Maravich.

And if not, still a solid guy that (pre-KP) filled a niche of a consistent inside the arc threat and can get to the line. And if he does uptick just a bit, it's a high end offensive piece cheap in terms of trade cost and salary, plus he does seem like a genuine good dude.

But too $$ so RIP my Brogdon/PP/TPE guy/Champs for DDR and Caruso trade idea I liked that one a lot.

hugepatsfan · Post #1860 » by **hugepatsfan** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:39 pm

Unless LAC are willing to include Mann, not sure a Brogdon deal is there to be made anymore. I'm assuming they aren't idiotic enough to send one of their tradable 1sts from 2028-2030 for Brogdon. Mann is the only thing of real value now that they made their #30 pick already (unless that's a guy we really like?)

If they traded Mann and Covington for Brogdon, they'd have:

Brogdon / Westbrook
PG / Powell
Kawhi / KMart Jr.
Batum / Morris
Zubac / Plumlee

Bones Hyland, Amir Coffey, Kobe Brown, Brandon Boston Jr., Jason Preston would be their deep bench.

That's a good 10 man rotation. On our end, we'd have:

White / Pritchard
Brown / Mann
Tatum / Hauser
Porzingis / Covington
RWilliams / Horford

I don't like it over keeping Brogdon. But, if I could flip Covington's expiring deal with picks (and maybe other filler salary) to get another good piece back, then I'm intrigued.