Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

It's going to be difficult to deal with the Clippers, but they make the most sense. If I were Morey, I too would be asking for both first round draft picks from LA. Especially if we have to take back Powell in the deal. Two firsts, Powell, and whatever salary it takes to get it done should be what we expect in return. When you factor in Harden as an expiring and us having to take the remaining years on Powell's deal, it makes sense for Morey to demand draft picks.

The thing of it is, everyone keeps saying that no big named free agents will want to come here. That is probably true, so I don't mind us taking back Powell in a deal involving Harden. Powell isn't a star by any means, but he's a damn good player as either a starter or a rotation piece. If we can pull off two firsts and Powell for Harden, it's going to be a win for us because of those draft picks and the fact that Powell can contribute now and in the future.

[Black Mage]

Getting draft capital is always important. Let's say you get those extra pick and then a player like Ingram or SGA suddenly become available. Those picks might what is needed make that trade using Tobias' expiring.

[mjkvol]

Am I the only one who would be all-in on Maxey/Harris/1st for Trae/Bey? Then figure out what to do with Harden later.

Yes.

[youngcrev]

Just re-listened to that segment of Russillo. It's Chris Mannix that says all of that, not Russillo. All he basically said is that the Clippers aren't offering much right now (no Mann and not much pick capital), but expects them to beef up the offer. And that they're the only ones making an offer at all right now as far as he knows.

Feels like nothing but **** aggregation to me

[spikeslovechild]

Getting draft capital is always important. Let's say you get those extra pick and then a player like Ingram or SGA suddenly become available. Those picks might what is needed make that trade using Tobias' expiring.

No it won't. They'll have much better offers than a 2029 and 2030 first-round pick. Heck Beal went for more and he had an NTC. The very fact that no other team is offering anything and even the LAC aren't offering much is the reason to hold onto him. He needs to play to regain some value and the longer we hold onto him the more apt he is to open up about playing for other teams.

We can still take someones trash offer at the deadline and 20c on the dollar if we want to move him regardless.

[spikeslovechild]

Then he needs to expand his list of teams not going to trade him for a poo platter.

I think the secret's out: nobody wants him.

Looks like it.

From the proposals being floated here, Marcus Smart had and has more legit trade value than Harden. Thats nuts to me.

[Arsenal]

It's going to be difficult to deal with the Clippers, but they make the most sense. If I were Morey, I too would be asking for both first round draft picks from LA. Especially if we have to take back Powell in the deal. Two firsts, Powell, and whatever salary it takes to get it done should be what we expect in return. When you factor in Harden as an expiring and us having to take the remaining years on Powell's deal, it makes sense for Morey to demand draft picks.

The thing of it is, everyone keeps saying that no big named free agents will want to come here. That is probably true, so I don't mind us taking back Powell in a deal involving Harden. Powell isn't a star by any means, but he's a damn good player as either a starter or a rotation piece. If we can pull off two firsts and Powell for Harden, it's going to be a win for us because of those draft picks and the fact that Powell can contribute now and in the future.

We absolutely cannot get stuck with Powell. If he’s so valuable then spin him off to another team immediately in a 3 way deal for expirings.

[ProcessDoctor]

It's going to be difficult to deal with the Clippers, but they make the most sense. If I were Morey, I too would be asking for both first round draft picks from LA. Especially if we have to take back Powell in the deal. Two firsts, Powell, and whatever salary it takes to get it done should be what we expect in return. When you factor in Harden as an expiring and us having to take the remaining years on Powell's deal, it makes sense for Morey to demand draft picks.

The thing of it is, everyone keeps saying that no big named free agents will want to come here. That is probably true, so I don't mind us taking back Powell in a deal involving Harden. Powell isn't a star by any means, but he's a damn good player as either a starter or a rotation piece. If we can pull off two firsts and Powell for Harden, it's going to be a win for us because of those draft picks and the fact that Powell can contribute now and in the future.

We absolutely cannot get stuck with Powell. If he’s so valuable then spin him off to another team immediately in a 3 way deal for expirings.

Agreed. I think the move is Harden/Tucker for Mann/Morris/Covington/Batum/two 1sts. Solves our wing depth problem and keeps us with the same amount of cap space next year. Also gives us two additional 1sts if a star becomes available at the deadline or next offseason.


Maxey/Springer/Beverley
Mann/Melton/Korkmaz
Harris/Batum/House
Covington/Reed/Morris
Embiid/Bamba/Harrell

[Iverson Armband]

Getting draft capital is always important. Let's say you get those extra pick and then a player like Ingram or SGA suddenly become available. Those picks might what is needed make that trade using Tobias' expiring.

No it won't. They'll have much better offers than a 2029 and 2030 first-round pick. Heck Beal went for more and he had an NTC. The very fact that no other team is offering anything and even the LAC aren't offering much is the reason to hold onto him. He needs to play to regain some value and the longer we hold onto him the more apt he is to open up about playing for other teams.

We can still take someones trash offer at the deadline and 20c on the dollar if we want to move him regardless.

Harden needs to play to regain value? Wtf? Everyone knows what Harden is (and isn’t) at this point. The next time he steps on a NBA court he’ll just be another year older and slower.

[Ben]

That’s the point. Tucker doesn’t space the floor anyway so might as well put in a guy who is more athletic, a better rebounder, and better shot blocker instead.

Just what I was going to say. The Sixers played 4 on 5 on offense all season long with Tucker. I hated most of those minutes. Tucker wouldn't take shots unless he was wide open, and even then sometimes. Reed makes scoring moves, both with his back to the basket and facing up. There's just no comparison.

What you're proposing is the definition of insanity. It doesn't work. It didn't work with Ben Simmons. It didn't work with Tucker. It won't work with Reed.

You seem to have a very poor understanding of insanity. But nonsense is easy to grasp, and what you're writing is nonsense. Nice chatting with you.

[76ciology]

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[eyeatoma]

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Is Vegas Sports a trusty source? Would love to get Martin. But not for a 1st round pick.

[rocketsfan100]

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Damn that’s a bargain for Miami. It goes to show the market now for long term contracts for guys in their last part of their prime with Al these new CBA implications

[M2J]

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2 picks + 2 swaps + Mann + expirings for Harden and Tucker. Done deal!

No thanks those first-round picks are so far in the future that half this board will likely be dead before they convey.

They also don't have a ton of value in trades for that reason either. I'm looking at their roster and there is literally nothing I want even Mann whom I like he's a bench rotation piece who isn't even that valuable because he is making real money now.

Hard pass on the LAC. I still think the NYK is our best bet Dolan would love to market Harden in New York. They have oodles of draft capital and they have guys we can take back that aren't complete stiffs. Harden needs to expand his list or we should just let his contract expire

Who the hell cares when the picks are? They're tradeable and the Clippers are definitely going to suck then. Sixers aren't even really asking for big time rotation players for them, so they can still contend.

I would've been happy to get anything for James Harden for the Sixers roster after the season, and still would've liked the team if he left. That package is beyond...because it's Maxey time

[M2J]

I think Portland should just take on Herro if he doesn't get quality from 3rd team. They can pump and dump him...he sucks, but he is a great catch and shoot player, and you'll be able to send that to a contender somewhere for value.

Caleb Martin would be worth a 1st round pick, but not for the Sixers limited assets. I bet a team like Denver looks that way

[76ciology]

Clips first round picks that they can trade
2028, 2029 and 2030.

They’d be dumb not to put protections with those picks.

[76ciology]

Seems to me we can safely get a pick and a pick swap with the Knicks or the Clips for Harden. We then can ship those picks and possibly player in return (Mann? Barrett?) for Lavine.

[Wilfried]

Clips first round picks that they can trade
2028, 2029 and 2030.

They’d be dumb not to put protections with those picks.

2029 can only be a swap than, no? (Stepien rule)

[76ciology]

Clips first round picks that they can trade
2028, 2029 and 2030.

They’d be dumb not to put protections with those picks.

2029 can only be a swap than, no? (Stepien rule)

Yup. Swap only. But can be traded if 2029 pick then 2028 or 2030 was a swap. If im not mistaken

[youngcrev]

I know he's old, slow and washed, and that we've got our fill on those guys, but I'd still love to have Kyle Lowry as a buyout guy. I think he'd be a perfect mentor for Maxey and still has enough left in the tank for a low minute, settle the troops role off the bench.