Colin Cowherd with the harsh reality for American born young players

[Chuck Everett]

Hey if this sort of rhetoric makes American players want to meet the challenge and become first team all-NBA regulars, then keep it coming Colin. If this upsets the American guys, all they have to do is prove him wrong by improving and being better. Here's hoping there are a few MJ's, Lebron's, Magic's, Shaq's, Duncan's, Curry's and Kobe's out there, who take this personally and want to do it.

Rather do that than cry that American players are getting criticized.

[CobraCommander]

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Colin is working hard as hell to be relevant -

It’s not working -

Jokic and Giannis are not the best two players because they Europeans-

They the best players because they are big driven focused individuals.

Like MLK said specifically about the NBA draft-
“Judge them by the content of their character and their game and not by the their vertical or the continent from which they came”

Colin is a continentist and it’s disgusting!

[ArtursNaudins]

I think there is some truth to but just some and of course it is over simplification.
When you look at top level non-US players like Jokic, Giannis and Embiid they all have been to good to great situations. Two of them already won a title, third just last season was MVP, so there is little to no urgency to ask for a trade etc.

It was little susprising how quickly Giannis signed an extenstion with Bucks although he could have left and that was before winning a title. Also it helps that Jokic and Giannis are really down to earth humble persons. Embiid has have his fair share of trolling on twitter and other sheningans on social media so its not like its just a USA thing.

The one player who could be different is Luka because of team success.

When you look at US players then Tatum, Curry, Morant, Booker seems quite happy with their teams because they are on good teams. Then there are others like Lebron, Durant, Davis, Leonard who have jumped the ship some of them several times, some of them left contenting teams which was rather wierd see Durant, Leonard and that may be the difference with non- US and US players that non-US players do not generally leave teams if they are contending but US players may still do it because of appeal of some city which for non-US players propably is not that important since they didnt grow up here and they are still foreigners.

So to conclude - there may be some difference but it is easy to stay at good place and it is harder to stay with team that is not performing that well. Recent develpments with Ja and Zion makes look US players bad, but these ar two players and you dont hear such things about Tatum, Booker or others.

[whitehops]

i think there's a bit of a changing of the guard but besides the elite guys like jokic, embiid, luka and now potentially coming in wemby, there is still very much more star talent from the USA.

i think it's more coincidental than anything that the best 3 players are international because besides siakam and markkanen that were all stars and there's a big group of american players between that gap in tier.

[Nuntius]

This “rivalry” between American born players and internationally born players is literally only “a thing” on this message board.

I’ve never seen anyone really care anywhere else.

Yep. And it's getting really annoying as it's bringing out the racists and chauvinists on both sides of the "debate".

[LewisnotMiller]

Why are we moving like intertnatuonal players don’t need American players and vice versa? Why do we need to take a league that’s been about inclusion for the last 50 years and try to make it about division all the time? Save that crap for the olympics.

Yep...I love the fact that there is more diversity in the game now. Different upbringings and styles, etc. Why do we need to decide between 'international' and 'domestic'?

I mean, there is at LEAST as much difference between an Australian player and a Serbian as there is between a US and an 'international'. And I don't think anyone still believes only Americans can be good players. It's a pretty false divide.

[Gusto1903]

f colin cowherd

[lambchop]

Cowherd's take are usually always trash. I still remember this one from 2016.

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"He's not gonna chase you down and block you from behind" lol.

[JN61]

What does that even mean? What a stupid thing to say

“Europeans are hard workers, Americans care about popularity”

Pretty true statement.

[Adam Stern]

ALWAYS consider the source.

[HotRocks34]

Why is it so hard for people understand that both things can be true:

1. there is now more international basketball talent than ever before, in large part due to the efforts the NBA made to promote the game internationally

2. There's still (and will continue to be) a lot of American talent.

It's not a zero sum game, just because we have Jokic, Doncic, Giannis, Embiid etc in the league now, doesn't mean that the US isn't going to be producing a massive amount of young talent moving forward.

Also, the clout thing is just stupid. Just because players are marketing themselves on social media doesn't mean that they don't care about the game. There is no player in the history of the game that was marketed more than MJ, and he turned out OK in the end.

Agree.

It's like boxing. Once the Iron Curtain opened up then you saw a lot more international talent on the scene that would not have been there had the USSR (no professional careers allowed) remained.

But there are still a ton of great American/North American fighters in professional boxing. It's not like they don't exist any longer. It's just that the landscape is a bit different the more that the talent pool is opened up globally, and as other nations have better training, coaching, nutrition, etc.

I would expect something similar to happen with NBA Africa, and probably with NBA China down the line.

[Ray Donovan]

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Colin is working hard as hell to be relevant -

It’s not working -

Jokic and Giannis are not the best two players because they Europeans-

They the best players because they are big driven focused individuals.

Like MLK said specifically about the NBA draft-
“Judge them by the content of their character and their game and not by the their vertical or the continent from which they came”

Colin is a continentist and it’s disgusting!

Ohhh Colin is working so hard to be relevant, saw awhile back he snuck in that his show was up 45%...he must have started pretty Low because that's quite a jump. Like to see Colin go up against Skip just 1 day a month to watch Colin's face react to Skip, seems Like they kinda shy away from each other hehe

[Nuntius]

What does that even mean? What a stupid thing to say

“Europeans are hard workers, Americans care about popularity”

Pretty true statement.

Blanket statements like that are almost never true. Plus, this particular statement has a lot of racial undertones which just makes it even less likely to be true (while also making it about 10 times worse).

[wade44]

AAU culture is a talking point, saying they are only interested in clout isn’t.

[queridiculo]

Cowherd routinely with the worst takes, he's elevated professional troll to an art form.

[Grahf]

People were saying this 20 years ago, when Sacramento won with a bunch of European players and Darko was supposed to be the next big thing. The rise of a few very special Euro players means American players are going to regress, or something?

[Godymas]

more like Europe has had more outliers

None of these guys have beaten America at the Olympics since 2004

[Xatticus]

Evidently its fun and fashionable to sh*t on the young American(Black) players now

Your provided subtext really only serves to betray your own beliefs.

That isn't what he said. He didn't explicitly blame the players and he certainly didn't make it about race. That's all you.

The fact is, the developmental environments are completely different.

European prospects generally cut their teeth in a professional and competitive environment playing for academy teams. It isn't a pure meritocracy, but it isn't far from it. Players that thrive are promoted, while players that struggle are cut loose. It's a system that has been borrowed from the professional soccer clubs that honed it.

There is no incentive for NBA teams to invest in player development until they actually hold the rights to a player, so American youths are left to navigate through AAU and school systems with wildly varying levels of coaching competence. Some are immensely talented, but have no idea how to play organized ball before they get to the NBA (e.g. Jalen Green). Others are steered by self-serving handlers that hope to capitalize on their talents. How could it possibly have been optimal for Shaedon Sharpe's development to avoid competitive basketball for more than a year? The system isn't set up for the purposes of realizing the potential of prospects.

[CpttCanada]

Lmao do you think that Coward is dumb enough to think that Europeans work harder than Americans?

[CpttCanada]

Evidently its fun and fashionable to sh*t on the young American(Black) players now

When did young American black players get mentioned? He just said American players. I’m not saying that he isn’t a moron but where die that come from?