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Re: Around the League: 2022-23 Season 3.0 

Post#1901 » by spikeslovechild » Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:31 am

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Right. Plus any team relying on Porzingis and Brogdon to be healthy and effective in the playoffs is taking a major gamble. Odds are one or both won't be able to answer the bell when it counts.


In the last four seasons, Smart has averaged 60 games. Porzingis 54. People have this narrative of Smart that borders on mythos when the reality is so much different.

The thing is he going to the grizzlies and he won't be protected. He won't get the same looks living off Tatum and Browns gravity. Fans won't shrug off him bricking 3 after 3 and taking shots that Ja should be taking. He is going to get exposed so badly. Not to mention if the NBA enforces the new flopping rule it's basically game over as it relates to being his best skill which is generating extra possessions for teams.

As far as Brogdon goes and Porzingis as well they don't need to count on them being both healthy 100 percent at the same time. That is what is called having real depth. They have Tatum, Brown, they kept the good Williams, they still have Horford. They are stacked and they actually gained assets while letting Williams and Smart go so they can easily bring in help. I am so envious of where they are in relation to my Sixers. We have no picks. We are worse at almost every position except center and they closed the gap with Porzingis WHILE getting picks. Yet, people here think somehow the Celtics got worse.

It's crazy. They had the best offseason so far next to maybe next to the spurs just because they lucked into the 1st overall pick.


I don't agree that they are better positioned to win playoff games, but I completely agree that they are better than the Sixers and in an enviable position asset-wise. I love Brogdon and hoped he was let go, but I'm going to have to see Porzingas deliver in big games before being a believer.


Honestly, I think he is a perfect fit for the Celtics assuming he buys in. They don't need him to deliver as he has been asked for most of his career. They just need him to be efficient and make the most of the opportunities given to him. He clearly is 3rd banana behind Brown and Tatum.

He hasn't even been that bad in the playoffs he had one good series and one not-so-good one. He hasn't been on teams that made the playoffs. He is one of those guys who gets elevated in the NBA because it's so devoid of stars but that doesn't mean he isn't a difference maker.
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Post#1902 » by 76ciology » Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:38 am

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Post#1903 » by Mik317 » Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:57 pm

he'd forget how to breathe if we drafted him.
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Post#1904 » by Stanford » Mon Jul 10, 2023 1:20 pm

I'd rather have bball at 20+ than Dillon Brooks.

One of the worst contracts I've ever seen.

Maybe I won't be a Rockets fans after all.
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Post#1905 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:19 am

I like the depth of OKC, Rox and Jazz. These 3 teams can put so collective pressure on your team’s defense for full 48 with their depth. While they have go to scorers, multiple go to scorers.. down the stretch. Kind of feels like a Celts type team.
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Post#1906 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:20 am

Mik317 wrote:he'd forget how to breathe if we drafted him.


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Post#1907 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:51 am

I find there’s so much scoring talent in the league right now that there’s a lot of guys who could be borderline stars like Tre Mann, Quickely, Bones Hyland or James Bouknight that the league wants the league to trend towards a Nuggets or Celtics type basketball where scoring is collective.

Looking at the Jazz squad alone, they have Lauri Markanen, Jordan Clarkson, Keyonte George and Sensabaugh. I think they’re the “generic” team where they accumulated two cheap high impact archetypes in today’s basketball. The rim protector+finish around the rim big and the 20+ppg scoring guard archetypes.

Other teams like the OKC or Rox had way more.

Hornets got Lamelo, Rozier, Hayward, Bridges and Brandon Miller. The depth in talent for scoring is deep.

With so much talent in scoring that is collectively attacking you on all sides and with how weak the defense has become with how the rules has so much favored the scorers, I find there’s less need in building superteams that we trend towards more parity.

Basketball heads talks how the new CBA is gonna make it hard for “in between” guys. I think it wont. Rather I think teams may build most of their cap for 3-4of their guys rather than just 1-2 guys.

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Post#1908 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:50 am

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Post#1910 » by Stanford » Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:05 pm

Who knows if it's true, but the Raptors not taking #3 for Siakim or OG is wild. For Masai's sake, we'll hope it's not true.
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Post#1911 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:26 am

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Post#1912 » by GoSixersBro » Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:45 am

Phoenix has continued to explore trade scenarios regarding reserve guard Cam Payne, league sources told Yahoo Sports, and Indiana point guard T.J. McConnell has been one player on the Suns’ radar.


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Post#1913 » by 76ciology » Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:24 am

There’s a huge addition in scoring talent next season that puts the league at risk or being too arcade-ish or Overtime Elite-ish basketball. The new flop rule will sort of mitigate this, i think the new rule acts as a lever for the league depending on how next season goes.

League either let it go, push scoring into higher level or they can make the game more physical and let “real” scorers shine, Im expecting the later.

If they dont tighten it up and give more power to defense, I dont see the point of hunting for superstars. You can just build a handful of mid scorers like Maxey and run a fast paced dribble drive offense like the Celts.
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Post#1914 » by Kobblehead » Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:38 am

The one thing working in the defense's favor is that offensive awareness is at an all-time low. Scorers are jacking up threes at alarming rates and taking a lot of unassisted pullups and stepbacks to no avail.
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Post#1915 » by 76ciology » Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:02 pm

Kobblehead wrote:The one thing working in the defense's favor is that offensive awareness is at an all-time low. Scorers are jacking up threes at alarming rates and taking a lot of unassisted pullups and stepbacks to no avail.


Yeah. Its like we have 30-50 JR Smiths and Lou Williams scattered all over the league. The problem is in crunch time where the parity in shot making makes it hard to decide whether to shoot or pass. Celts has a similar problem
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Post#1916 » by Stanford » Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:12 pm

Chet and SGA is going to be so good next year.
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Post#1917 » by GoSixersBro » Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:55 pm

It's gonna be Ainge stepping in to make the Lillard to Miami deal happen isn't it? And he will get Herro and more and likely make out better than both the Blazers and Heat?
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Post#1918 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:20 pm

Stanford wrote:Chet and SGA is going to be so good next year.


Might be top 3 in the West. Jalen Williams, Giddey, SGA, Lu Dort and Chet. Then have Bertans, Gay, Kenrich Williams, Cason Wallace... I would have expected them to be more active with vets this offseason, but their core is pretty nasty right now.
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Post#1919 » by Jailblazers7 » Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:10 pm

76ciology wrote:I find there’s so much scoring talent in the league right now that there’s a lot of guys who could be borderline stars like Tre Mann, Quickely, Bones Hyland or James Bouknight that the league wants the league to trend towards a Nuggets or Celtics type basketball where scoring is collective.


I often find myself nodding along to the broad strokes of your ideas & then hear the record scratch when you throw in some unhinged player evaluations. :lol:
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Post#1920 » by 76ciology » Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:25 pm

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76ciology wrote:I find there’s so much scoring talent in the league right now that there’s a lot of guys who could be borderline stars like Tre Mann, Quickely, Bones Hyland or James Bouknight that the league wants the league to trend towards a Nuggets or Celtics type basketball where scoring is collective.


I often find myself nodding along to the broad strokes of your ideas & then hear the record scratch when you throw in some unhinged player evaluations. :lol:


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