Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3

Post #1981 » by **Ben** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:26 pm

Stanford wrote:I believe that by the time Maxey is 27, he'll be good enough to be a #2 on a winning team.

If only that team were the Sixers...

Ballerhogger · Post #1982 » by **Ballerhogger** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:37 pm

Do you guys think harden will hold out . No hate, just simple question.

Post #1983 » by **Stanford** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:40 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:Do you guys think harden will hold out . No hate, just simple question.

History says no. He'll just dog it for a couple months.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #1984 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:40 pm

I'm warming to the idea of Lavine. I don't think it'll happen though.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #1985 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:44 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:76ers fans swear Stars like and want to play here. The honest truth is they dont... Luka ain't coming here lol.. why would he come here ? Maybe all this underachieving and players leaving after one year or two will help our delusional "blue collared" fans get the message ...

I can see that suggesting Luka has really upset you. But you have to let it go. Smoldering with rage over a sports forum is probably not the healthiest thing for you. I would suggest taking the David Van Driessen approach and live with eternal optimism in your life. Being in the captivity of nature without realgm is the perfect way to wrestle with your manhood. Instead of anger and resentment...Try exploring the world of haiku. You'll thank me later.

Post #1986 » by **Stanford** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:02 pm

https://nypost.com/2021/10/19/james-harden-declining-nets-extension-is-a-227-million-bet

Please read this incredible article.

youngcrev · Post #1987 » by **youngcrev** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:30 pm

Stanford wrote:https://nypost.com/2021/10/19/james-harden-declining-nets-extension-is-a-227-million-bet

Please read this incredible article.

Yeah... And honestly, it didn't seem that crazy at the time. I think the initial plan really was to pay those 3 guys every last dollar they could. But then the injuries and the crazy started to pile up.

And somehow, James still doesn't seemed to fully check in on the reality that that's no longer on the table for him.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1988 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:30 pm

Stanford wrote:https://nypost.com/2021/10/19/james-harden-declining-nets-extension-is-a-227-million-bet

Please read this incredible article.

Dear god can you imagine being stuck with that contract.

I think Morey not signing him to a big deal last summer or this summer has become very underrated.

Arsenal · Post #1989 » by **Arsenal** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:30 pm

Read on Twitter

Clips think Morey is some kind of idiot amateur they can wait out. Or everyone is waiting for the Dame shoe to drop before getting serious.

Mik317 · Post #1990 » by **Mik317** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:32 pm

i have made peace with the "fact" that regardless what the FO does...the chance we ever win it all will be due to something none of us can forsee at this stage lol.

we lack assets...but moreso the type of player we need is very difficult to get via trade at least obviously so...any guy we get will probably have a lot of really bad flaws and the "hope" is that those flaws will be able to be hidden thanks to Biid or Nurse. Our recent history makes that a hard thing to believe in tho.

Trade Harden for Clipper scraps and you are hoping that all the theoretical depth and hopefully more cohesive offense will lead to better things.

Trade for LaVine and hope that him becoming a second option makes things easier for him.

Run it back and hope Harden's fee fees aren't hurt too bad and maybe he actually tries in order to get the bag

IDK...i don't think any of that is realistic but its where we are at the moment.

All I want is for the team to never just give up like our big two did against the Celtics...if we lose via just not being good enough...then fine. I have no faith that we can obviously turn it around (we lack assets...getting a coach with ideas (and also just less of a target on his back) and not panic trading Maxey is probably the best they can do atm) so its all in the hope for the best camp atm.

Post #1991 » by **Stanford** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:34 pm

I wonder if KL and PG are putting pressure on the organization to make a deal. Has anyone reported that they're even interested in this connection?

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #1992 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:55 pm

Harden to LA does make a ton of sense. I don't see any other suitors for him unless some team like the Pelicans jumps into the conversation.
So, Harden wants to play for a team that is at the very least going to make the playoffs. He wants to go back out west, so who does that leave as suitors for him? I have the Clippers as the obvious frontrunner in all of this. After that, I'd say New Orleans is a sleeper candidate. It's still a 5-hour drive to Houston, but hey...It's closer. After that, it gets a little mysterious.

He damn sure does not want to go to Minnesota. Houston already passed, other teams like Memphis, and Sacramento are all set at point guard. Phoenix went the Beal route. The Lakers are probably not interested, OKC is doing their own thing, and obviously, Denver doesn't need him. I think it comes down to the Clippers, Nawlins, or maybe by some weird chance Houston makes a trade for him. In reality, it's probably Clippers or bust.

LA did just recently acquire KJ Martin. They now have a plethora of wing players on that roster. They can come off of some talent along with draft picks for Harden. I'm in full agreement with Morey on this one about not just giving him away. WE have the leverage here in the situation. If he doesn't want to play, then fine. Be a 34-year-old that sits out the season. We've already punted on this upcoming season as it is. We're clearing the decks for next summer. If Harden wants to be here to run it back one more time, then by all means, let's do it. I think once the season gets closer to tipping off, we'll see something happen. LA has the pieces to make a trade with us work, it's just a matter of time before they give in.

LeonJordanJr24 · Post #1993 » by **LeonJordanJr24** » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:11 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
LeonJordanJr24 wrote:76ers fans swear Stars like and want to play here. The honest truth is they dont... Luka ain't coming here lol.. why would he come here ? Maybe all this underachieving and players leaving after one year or two will help our delusional "blue collared" fans get the message ...

I can see that suggesting Luka has really upset you. But you have to let it go. Smoldering with rage over a sports forum is probably not the healthiest thing for you. I would suggest taking the David Van Driessen approach and live with eternal optimism in your life. Being in the captivity of nature without realgm is the perfect way to wrestle with your manhood. Instead of anger and resentment...Try exploring the world of haiku. You'll thank me later.

What??

LeonJordanJr24 · Post #1994 » by **LeonJordanJr24** » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:20 am

Honestly run it back is pure insanity. We already ran it back. Running it back again makes zero sense and just keeping us in the same position year after year. First off Elton Brand should of been fired already especially for the Butler treatment and giving Tobias such a horrible contract. This franchise is simply mediocre. Another thing is this team has proven over and over that Embiid can not be the focal point on offense if we want to actually be better than we are now. I think Morey is the only guy with some decent sense when it comes to this team and isn't afraid to make tough decisions.

rocketsfan100 · Post #1995 » by **rocketsfan100** » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:25 am

There is no way this will end well if Morey plays hardball

Embiid P · Post #1996 » by **Embiid P** » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:25 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:First off Elton Brand should of been fired already especially for the Butler treatment and giving Tobias such a horrible contract.

Don't forget the Horford contract which likely cost us a first to get rid of.

Eyeamok · Post #1997 » by **Eyeamok** » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:43 am

Embiid P wrote:
LeonJordanJr24 wrote:First off Elton Brand should of been fired already especially for the Butler treatment and giving Tobias such a horrible contract.

Don't forget the Horford contract which likely cost us a first to get rid of.

Elton Brand was just the face. The real decisions were going on in the back room. Why do you think he is still here?

Arsenal · Post #1998 » by **Arsenal** » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:50 am

Eyeamok wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
LeonJordanJr24 wrote:First off Elton Brand should of been fired already especially for the Butler treatment and giving Tobias such a horrible contract.

Don't forget the Horford contract which likely cost us a first to get rid of.

Elton Brand was just the face. The real decisions were going on in the back room. Why do you think he is still here?

Elton Brand was just as guilty as Lee Harvey Oswald!

Post #1999 » by **Stanford** » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:52 am

Arsenal wrote:Elton Brand was just as guilty as Lee Harvey Oswald!

But our Jack Ruby has yet to emerge.

Arsenal · Post #2000 » by **Arsenal** » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:01 am

Stanford wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Elton Brand was just as guilty as Lee Harvey Oswald!

But our Jack Ruby has yet to emerge.

It’s like if they pardoned Oswald in exchange for shutting up instead of sending Ruby to whack him.

Our front office is kinder to its patsies than the government is!