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Post#541 » by JaMarco » Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:32 am

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“It’s been all good discussion,” Stevens said. “We want Jaylen to be here for a long, long time and we’ve made that clear. We’re looking forward to all sitting down and we have time. I probably shouldn’t say anything else, but I feel optimistic.”

So when is he getting traded?
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Post#542 » by BK_2020 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:37 am

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“It’s been all good discussion,” Stevens said. “We want Jaylen to be here for a long, long time and we’ve made that clear. We’re looking forward to all sitting down and we have time. I probably shouldn’t say anything else, but I feel optimistic.”

Uh oh
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Post#543 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:56 am

So Brad said he'd like to add another wing, huh?

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Wiggins has a non-guaranteed contract this season for just $1.8 mil, which is a bargain. We could get a solid player for dirt cheap.

He was a really solid rotation player for OKC last season. But it seems like he might be the odd man out, with other guys they've added and with Kenrich Williams returning from injury (he was out for most of the 2nd half of the season and Wiggins got those minutes..)

HIs contract in non-guaranteed for this season and team option for 2024-2025 at just $1.9 mil. We could acquire him with the Grant TPE, while still not using very much of the salary cap. And we have a history of making moves with OKC (horford, Muscala)

Downside is, he's a young guy who hasn't gotten paid yet. He's at the tail end of a cheap rookie deal. So he probably wouldn't be too happy about coming here. He's probably have a better shot at playin time somewhere like chicago, denver memphis or charlotte..

We're probably better off getting a proven vet, who has already gotten paid, who is cool with it if they don't get tons of playing time..
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Post#544 » by steefP2 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:23 pm

Yeah okc has currently 21 player on their roster; they’re gonna have to trade or cut some real nba guys to trim the roster. But I don’t see us getting any of them; other teams can offer more attractive situations for young guys looking to prove themselves
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Post#545 » by 165bows » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:23 pm

Hal14 wrote:So Brad said he'd like to add another wing, huh?

Read on Twitter


Wiggins has a non-guaranteed contract this season for just $1.8 mil, which is a bargain. We could get a solid player for dirt cheap.

He was a really solid rotation player for OKC last season. But it seems like he might be the odd man out, with other guys they've added and with Kenrich Williams returning from injury (he was out for most of the 2nd half of the season and Wiggins got those minutes..)

HIs contract in non-guaranteed for this season and team option for 2024-2025 at just $1.9 mil. We could acquire him with the Grant TPE, while still not using very much of the salary cap. And we have a history of making moves with OKC (horford, Muscala)

Downside is, he's a young guy who hasn't gotten paid yet. He's at the tail end of a cheap rookie deal. So he probably wouldn't be too happy about coming here. He's probably have a better shot at playin time somewhere like chicago, denver memphis or charlotte..

We're probably better off getting a proven vet, who has already gotten paid, who is cool with it if they don't get tons of playing time..

Haha was just thinking about a post about this guy. Don't know a ton about him but he would fit - though I'm not really sure they even need another wing. But trade Champagnie and a second for a modest upgrade on the bench would fit what Brad was talking about.
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Post#546 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:26 pm

On August 22 Landry Shamet can be aggregated into a deal with DeLon Wright, so can see something like the following...

Boston gets Wright and Covington
Clippers get Brogdon and Shamet
Washington gets Morris, Kobe Brown and Coffey
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Post#547 » by darrendaye » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:28 pm

steefP2 wrote:Yeah okc has currently 21 player on their roster; they’re gonna have to trade or cut some real nba guys to trim the roster. But I don’t see us getting any of them; other teams can offer more attractive situations for young guys looking to prove themselves


Sans one, but Brad seems intent on killin' my dream.
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Post#548 » by steefP2 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:33 pm

darrendaye wrote:
steefP2 wrote:Yeah okc has currently 21 player on their roster; they’re gonna have to trade or cut some real nba guys to trim the roster. But I don’t see us getting any of them; other teams can offer more attractive situations for young guys looking to prove themselves


Sans one, but Brad seems intent on killin' my dream.



Garuba is a tough fit. He’s an nba player defensively with real potential there but he makes rob look like jokic offensively.
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Post#549 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:46 pm

Javonte Green might be a guy who is ok with getting sporadic playing time, can help out on the wing, is Tatum's buddy, can defend the perimeter, showed an improved outside shot in Chicago.

Good defender who doesn't require a lot of touches on offense (like someone like Oubre, for example)..

And rumor has it, he is open to returning to Boston.

Question to me is, how is he moving these days? Missed most of last season with injuries, had knee surgery in January - which is a little scary for a guy who relies a lot on his athleticism/explosiveness.

I say at least bring him in for a workout and if he looks good, give him the veteran's minimum. He's still only 29 so should still be in his prime. I'd be more worried about a guy coming off knee surgery if he was older than that..

Sidenote: I'm kind of surprised Ainge hasn't signed his guy "Romey" yet haha. Guessing that perhaps Utah just doesn't have a roster spot to give him, with all the other moves they made and dudes they drafted. Or, Romeo is just bad, so nobody wants him :(

Sidenote: now that I think about it, Wiggins is 24. He's a little bit older. He's kind of in a similar spot to Pritchard in terms of age, NBA experience, contract situation. I bet OKC is working with Wiggins on finding him a team where he'd be able to get more minutes. Like I said, Denver, Memphis, Chicago and Charlotte were some that popped into mind - where he'd probably get more playing time than he would here..
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Post#550 » by Scarletfire81 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:03 pm

At this point I just want JB to sign the extension,I just don’t want to speculate about it anymore…
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Post#551 » by sam_I_am » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:15 pm

JaMarco wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
“It’s been all good discussion,” Stevens said. “We want Jaylen to be here for a long, long time and we’ve made that clear. We’re looking forward to all sitting down and we have time. I probably shouldn’t say anything else, but I feel optimistic.”

So when is he getting traded?


After July 14 2024 at the earliest. However, they have until October to sign him so it depends on how stubbornly they want to negotiate the nuances of supermax. It could have to wait until after Oct 2024.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#552 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:20 pm

Scarletfire81 wrote:At this point I just want JB to sign the extension,I just don’t want to speculate about it anymore…

It all depends on if OKC is willing to give up Aaron Wiggins or not. :wink:
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Post#553 » by Bohemian » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:21 pm

Still no news??? :lol:
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Post#554 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:24 pm

Bohemian wrote:Still no news??? :lol:

It's a very big extension for Jaylen Brown and a very big extension for the Boston Celtics. In my opinion, Celtics fans should be more concerned if this extension didn't take some time to complete.
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Post#555 » by 31to6 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:29 pm

Hal14 wrote:Javonte Green might be a guy who is ok with getting sporadic playing time, can help out on the wing, is Tatum's buddy, can defend the perimeter, showed an improved outside shot in Chicago.

Good defender who doesn't require a lot of touches on offense (like someone like Oubre, for example)..

And rumor has it, he was open to returning to Boston.

Question to me is, how is he moving these days? Missed most of last season with injuries, had knee surgery in January - which is a little scary for a guy who relies a lot on his athleticism/explosiveness.

I say at least bring him in for a workout and if he looks good, give him the veteran's minimum. He's still only 29 so should still be in his prime. I'd be more worried about a guy coming off knee surgery if he was older than that..

Sidenote: I'm kind of surprised Ainge hasn't signed his guy "Romey" yet haha. Guessing that perhaps Utah just doesn't have a roster spot to give him, with all the other moves they made and dudes they drafted. Or, Romeo is just bad, so nobody wants him :(

Sidenote: now that I think about it, Wiggins is 24. He's a little bit older. He's kind of in a similar spot to Pritchard in terms of age, NBA experience, contract situation. I bet OKC is working with Wiggins on finding him a team where he'd be able to get more minutes. Like I said, Denver, Memphis, Chicago and Charlotte were some that popped into mind - where he'd probably get more playing time than he would here..


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2. I’d forgotten about Romeo already! Which is only fair because I spent too much time thinking about him earlier — what a legend he was in his hometown; what a good finisher he was in college. Just not an NBA player though.

3. DEN, MEM, CHI, CHA is quite a disparate list! Do they all have minutes at the wing?
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Post#556 » by 31to6 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:34 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Bohemian wrote:Still no news??? :lol:

It's a very big extension for Jaylen Brown and a very big extension for the Boston Celtics. In my opinion, Celtics fans should be more concerned if this extension didn't take some time to complete.


John Karalis speculated that maybe Jaylen would want to let the Celtics twist in the wind a bit as payback for his name being in trade rumors over the years.

I could see that. One thing we HAVEN’T prepared for, as a board, is what happens if an extension doesn’t get done and they don’t trade him. Maybe this can help spawn 20 more pages of Jaylen posts today. Ooh let’s try to rank him! ;)
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Post#557 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:37 pm

31to6 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Bohemian wrote:Still no news??? :lol:

It's a very big extension for Jaylen Brown and a very big extension for the Boston Celtics. In my opinion, Celtics fans should be more concerned if this extension didn't take some time to complete.


John Karalis speculated that maybe Jaylen would want to let the Celtics twist in the wind a bit as payback for his name being in trade rumors over the years.

I could see that. One thing we HAVEN’T prepared for, as a board, is what happens if an extension doesn’t get done and they don’t trade him. Maybe this can help spawn 20 more pages of Jaylen posts today. Ooh let’s try to rank him! ;)

Trust me there will be at least 500 more Jaylen Brown pages this year regardless of what happens with his contract.
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Post#558 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:38 pm

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Post#559 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:42 pm

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I personally don't think Siakam gets moved because there isn't a strong market for Siakam and Toronto is probably getting lowball offers.
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Post#560 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:49 pm

31to6 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Bohemian wrote:Still no news??? :lol:

It's a very big extension for Jaylen Brown and a very big extension for the Boston Celtics. In my opinion, Celtics fans should be more concerned if this extension didn't take some time to complete.


John Karalis speculated that maybe Jaylen would want to let the Celtics twist in the wind a bit as payback for his name being in trade rumors over the years.

I could see that. One thing we HAVEN’T prepared for, as a board, is what happens if an extension doesn’t get done and they don’t trade him. Maybe this can help spawn 20 more pages of Jaylen posts today. Ooh let’s try to rank him! ;)

I mean, it's entirely possible that happens. But no one seems to be mentioning it as a possibility. Everyone thinks we either extend him or trade him.

But this happened last summer with Grant. We couldn't come to terms on an extension so we just let him play out the last season of his contract.

If we're not convinced that JB should get a supermax - and we're less inclined to give him the supermax now that we added Porzingis (because now JB is kind of expendable since KP *could* possibly be the #2 option on a championship team, and having Tatum & brown on supermaxes, plus Porzingis at $30 mil a year plus white, brogdon, rob, al making a combined $63 mil) that's a lot of money to give JB when we have all that other $ allocated to those other guys and we're less dependent on his scoring now that we have KP.

So maybe we end up just having JB play this season out, to get a better idea of exactly how much $ he is worth on his next contract..maybe Brad is thinking that him making all-NBA (which made him eligible for the supermax) was a fluke..perhaps Brad says to have him play this season out, then we're able to sign him less $ next summer, putting the team in a better financial spot long term..
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