Trade/Free Agency Thread, whose NINE is it anyways?? 2023-24

[zoyathedestroya]

Anyone else suggested yet Jaylen just wants to wait to get some spotlight? Not remotely out of the question.

Nah. Everyday he waits, the chances of him getting traded (and thus making less $ since we're the only team that can offer the supermax) go up..

How? He's an expiring contract today. He'd still be an expiring contract a week from now. If anything the chances of him getting traded go down once the Lillard and Harden situations get resolved.

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Jaylen still at that event?

I believe this is a different event he's going to now.

I believe he was in Vegas for the past week or so, negotiating a contract extension with the Celtics (but oddly, has not attended any of the Celtics 3 summer league games that I'm aware of). He's been eligible to sign it since July 1, and he could have been negotiating it well before that.

[Celtics_Champs]

I think they’re acting in good faith with each other. I think Jaylen doesn’t want to be here and Brad doesn’t want to give him the Supermax. But instead of playing good guy bad guy, or both bad guys, they’re working with each other to both come off looking good.

“Oh yeah we will get to it, it’s awesome here I love being here!”

“Oh we love Jaylen, we will get right on that!”

All while Brad searches for a trade.

[GoCeltics123]

I think they’re acting in good faith with each other. I think Jaylen doesn’t want to be here and Brad doesn’t want to give him the Supermax. But instead of playing good guy bad guy, or both bad guys, they’re working with each other to both come off looking good.

“Oh yeah we will get to it, it’s awesome here I love being here!”

“Oh we love Jaylen, we will get right on that!”

All while Brad searches for a trade.

That's fine but then you trade him at the draft for Scoot and Simons or something. They didn't do that

Trading him for anything but Dame now is nonsense and failed asset management

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Anyone else suggested yet Jaylen just wants to wait to get some spotlight? Not remotely out of the question.

Nah. Everyday he waits, the chances of him getting traded (and thus making less $ since we're the only team that can offer the supermax) go up..

How? He's an expiring contract today. He'd still be an expiring contract a week from now. If anything the chances of him getting traded go down once the Lillard and Harden situations get resolved.

Regardless of the Dame/harden situations, if JB really wanted the bag, he could have made sure the deal gets done as soon as possible - to leave nothing to chance.

Everyday that goes by without him signing, JB allows for other stuff to happen that could cause him to not get the supermax (more days for Brad to explore a potential trade, JB could get injured playing in a pickup game, another team could approach Brad with an offer for JB that he can't refuse, who knows what else could happen as time goes by that could throw a wrench into things - as opposed to a quick, smooth transaction like the extensions that Bane, Lamelo, Haliburton and Edwards just signed..)

[Celtics_Champs]

I think they’re acting in good faith with each other. I think Jaylen doesn’t want to be here and Brad doesn’t want to give him the Supermax. But instead of playing good guy bad guy, or both bad guys, they’re working with each other to both come off looking good.

“Oh yeah we will get to it, it’s awesome here I love being here!”

“Oh we love Jaylen, we will get right on that!”

All while Brad searches for a trade.

That's fine but then you trade him at the draft for Scoot and Simons or something. They didn't do that

Trading him for anything but Dame now is nonsense and failed asset management

Oh I agree. I see some of these deals and I cringe. Still holding out hope that Cleveland gets off to a rocky start and trades us one of Mitchell or Garland for Brown to balance their roster better.

[sam_I_am]

This is a non-story because:

1. Jaylen cannot get extended if traded so he only loses if he doesn’t sign a supermax. He could be following Siakam example but unlike Siakam he qualifies for supermax so doing so would cost him millions and risk getting screwed if he gets hurt before free agency like IT did.
2. The Celtics know he walks if they ‘only’ offer him the max or less. If they don’t extend him, his trade value is at least 40% less than it would be next year on a long term deal.

Only the most toxic of fall outs would threaten this dynamic. If Jaylen truly wants out of Boston, he will sign anything that pays between max and supermax and then force his way out like Durant and Dame.

But this is not toxic. Just the opposite. Jaylen is calmly fulfilling his obligations overseas and Brad looked as relaxed at Vegas as I’ve ever seen him.

[zoyathedestroya]

Jaylen still at that event?

I believe this is a different event he's going to now.

I believe he was in Vegas for the past week or so, negotiating a contract extension with the Celtics (but oddly, has not attended any of the Celtics 3 summer league games that I'm aware of). He's been eligible to sign it since July 1, and he could have been negotiating it well before that.

It's most likely this:

https://sanctuary.nbpa.com/summit

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Read on Twitter

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This is a non-story because:

1. Jaylen cannot get extended if traded so he only loses if he doesn’t sign a supermax.

Are you sure about that? I figured that whatever team traded for him would be able to extend him - like what we just did with Porzingis

Jaylen is calmly fulfilling his obligations overseas and Brad looked as relaxed at Vegas as I’ve ever seen him.

Brad always looks relaxed - at least since moving into the front office. If anything he seemed a little bit nervous the other night when he was interviewed during our SL game. And during that interview (and I doubt this was a coincidence) the broadcasters had him on for 5 minutes yet didn't bring up the JB extension at all. Hmm, weird..

And this quote doesn't inspire a ton of confidence, especially the "I probably shouldn't say anything else" part.

Read on Twitter

Also, Brad says "we're looking forward to all sitting down".

Wait what? He's been eligible to sign since July 1 and you haven't even sat down with him yet? I thought reports were saying JB was gonna be in Vegas all week to sit down with Brad and get this hammered out?

Also, Brad says he's looking forward to sitting down with JB, and then literally the very next day (today) we find out that JB is headed to Europe for an event and that talks will be paused till he gets back.

Hmmm...

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Final word...

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[Celtics_Champs]

It’s fine to say you believe he will be signed. He probably will. But I’m confused others aren’t jumping to even more crazy conclusions. What happened to us!?

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I think they’re acting in good faith with each other. I think Jaylen doesn’t want to be here and Brad doesn’t want to give him the Supermax. But instead of playing good guy bad guy, or both bad guys, they’re working with each other to both come off looking good.

“Oh yeah we will get to it, it’s awesome here I love being here!”

“Oh we love Jaylen, we will get right on that!”

All while Brad searches for a trade.

Exactly.

And all the while, Haliburton, Bane, Lamelo and Edwards signed their extensions as fast and smoothly as they possibly could. And all the while, the C's acquire Porzingis, who could be the #2 on a championship team (or possibly the #3 if we end up trading for a star who's better than Porzingis.

This gives Brad the flexibility to trade JB for a star who is better than Porzingis, equal to Porzingis or lesser than Porzingis..and (regardless of which path he chooses) the C's could potentially have a championship caliber roster.

Perhaps part of the reason we traded for Porzingis, was so that we would still have a #2 option (who was better than JB last season in pretty much every advanced stats category) if things went sideways with JB's extension and we have to trade JB..and Brad probably knew that there was a chance that if we traded JB, we wouldn't be able to get a star in return - it might be a package of 2-3 role players - so this way, with Porzingis, we have a #2 option, regardless of what happens with JB..

[Curmudgeon]

I'd trade him even up for Siakam. Let Toronto worry about JB's ego, and we'll worry about Siakam's. Siakam lets JT play small forward.

[Celts17Pride]

Anyone else suggested yet Jaylen just wants to wait to get some spotlight? Not remotely out of the question.

Jaylen Brown knows the minute he signs the supermax extension he will be the first player Stevens moves if things go wrong. Because of this scenario Jaylen Brown wants a trade kicker and a 5th year option. The Celtics on the other hand don't want trade kickers and a player option because it a.) makes it harder to trade Brown and b.) they would get less of a return. Thus the stalemate for now.

Pretty obvious for anyone to see.

Celtics and Brown will negotiate and come to an agreement or they won't. I think they will and both sides won't be particularly happy but we will see.

[Celts17Pride]

I'd trade him even up for Siakam. Let Toronto worry about JB's ego, and we'll worry about Siakam's. Siakam lets JT play small forward.

Siakam is not good and wants a huge payday. That's why there is no market for him.

[GoCeltics123]

Anyone else suggested yet Jaylen just wants to wait to get some spotlight? Not remotely out of the question.

Jaylen Brown knows the minute he signs the supermax extension he will be the first player Stevens moves if things go wrong. Because of this scenario Jaylen Brown wants a trade kicker and a 5th year option. The Celtics on the other hand don't want trade kickers and a player option because it a.) makes it harder to trade Brown and b.) they would get less of a return. Thus the stalemate for now.

Pretty obvious for anyone to see.

Celtics and Brown will negotiate and come to an agreement or they won't. I think they will and both sides won't be particularly happy but we will see.

At some point you've got to set a deadline though IMO. Like August or September.

If he doesn't sign then, move him

[Celtics_Champs]

I'd trade him even up for Siakam. Let Toronto worry about JB's ego, and we'll worry about Siakam's. Siakam lets JT play small forward.

Siakam is not good and wants a huge payday. That's why there is no market for him.

That’s a kick the can down the road deal if I ever seen one.

[Celts17Pride]

Anyone else suggested yet Jaylen just wants to wait to get some spotlight? Not remotely out of the question.

Jaylen Brown knows the minute he signs the supermax extension he will be the first player Stevens moves if things go wrong. Because of this scenario Jaylen Brown wants a trade kicker and a 5th year option. The Celtics on the other hand don't want trade kickers and a player option because it a.) makes it harder to trade Brown and b.) they would get less of a return. Thus the stalemate for now.

Pretty obvious for anyone to see.

Celtics and Brown will negotiate and come to an agreement or they won't. I think they will and both sides won't be particularly happy but we will see.

At some point you've got to set a deadline though IMO. Like August or September.

If he doesn't sign then, move him

Time will tell. I think the Celtics will give him the 5th year player option but he gets 32%. But who knows? We all will see before the season begins.

[Curmudgeon]

I'd trade him even up for Siakam. Let Toronto worry about JB's ego, and we'll worry about Siakam's. Siakam lets JT play small forward.

Siakam is not good and wants a huge payday. That's why there is no market for him.

That’s a kick the can down the road deal if I ever seen one.

Yes. It's also a "win championship now" move. Siakam has a ring; JB doesn't.