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there are gonna be a lot of really fun college players this season that are likely going to get vastly overrated as NBA prospect because top end talent is MIA
guys like Dillingham, Cadeau, McCain and Holloway are all ranked top 20 or so coming in but all are super tiny and without any elite athletic or skill traits, just not really NBA prospects unless they have like Trae Young type seasons in college...the last FS PG prospect like this was Sharife Cooper and he went in the 2nd and is now a GL player.
there are some really fun non FS as well in the same mold like Pop Isaacs and KJ Simpson and even Judah Mintz but just will never be top tier NBA prospects because of size/athletic issues.
guys like Dillingham, Cadeau, McCain and Holloway are all ranked top 20 or so coming in but all are super tiny and without any elite athletic or skill traits, just not really NBA prospects unless they have like Trae Young type seasons in college...the last FS PG prospect like this was Sharife Cooper and he went in the 2nd and is now a GL player.
there are some really fun non FS as well in the same mold like Pop Isaacs and KJ Simpson and even Judah Mintz but just will never be top tier NBA prospects because of size/athletic issues.
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Haven't kept up with this thread much lately but I think I'm putting Aday Mara at #1 for now..
7'3", was contributing for a team in Spain ACB (the best domestic pro league in the world, outside of the NBA) at age 17. Can pass, has good touch on his shot (saw him make a baby hook from mid range with his left hand), hitting mid range jumpers, even some 3's. Moves well for a dude that size with agility and footwork. Can block shots.
7'3", was contributing for a team in Spain ACB (the best domestic pro league in the world, outside of the NBA) at age 17. Can pass, has good touch on his shot (saw him make a baby hook from mid range with his left hand), hitting mid range jumpers, even some 3's. Moves well for a dude that size with agility and footwork. Can block shots.
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BostonCouchGM wrote:Duke freshmen vs returning players
Caleb Foster is legit. He looks to have put on some muscle and has the smoothest jumper I've seen in awhile. What a stud. Proctor looks bigger and more confident. McCain is the real deal though he's undersized for a 2 guard. Power looks promising. I'm getting fired up
Proc still looks like the best prospect on that team outside of maybe Flip, i also like Power...but that's about it for me.
Foster is fine but he's an average athlete and his arms look very short to me, McCain is small and unimpressive, neither will be getting huge mins as long as Proc/Roach are healthy so I doubt either are 1ADs, not sure if Mitchell/Stewart were there but didn't notice them at all...Mgbako was their best prospect and he had to bounce b/c of all the mouths to feed on that squad
it's gonna be a good college team for sure but don't see any potential first rounders outside Proc/Flip at this point and MAYBE Power but I also doubt he's a 1AD guy too unless he has a huge year
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Jeremy Roach / Caleb Foster / Jared McCain
Tyrese Proctor / Jaylen Blakes
Sean Stewart / Jaden Schutt
Mark Mitchell / TJ Power
Kyle Filipowski / Christian Reeves / Ryan Young
just dont see how many minutes McCain is gonna get here in the backcourt unless again there is an injury or something, both Proc/Roach got 30+ minutes per last season and will again and Foster will get at least 25m, add in Blakes and not much more than 15 mins per left for McCain
it's gonna be a really good college team tho more vets than usual for Duke
Tyrese Proctor / Jaylen Blakes
Sean Stewart / Jaden Schutt
Mark Mitchell / TJ Power
Kyle Filipowski / Christian Reeves / Ryan Young
just dont see how many minutes McCain is gonna get here in the backcourt unless again there is an injury or something, both Proc/Roach got 30+ minutes per last season and will again and Foster will get at least 25m, add in Blakes and not much more than 15 mins per left for McCain
it's gonna be a really good college team tho more vets than usual for Duke
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clyde21 wrote:BostonCouchGM wrote:Duke freshmen vs returning players
Caleb Foster is legit. He looks to have put on some muscle and has the smoothest jumper I've seen in awhile. What a stud. Proctor looks bigger and more confident. McCain is the real deal though he's undersized for a 2 guard. Power looks promising. I'm getting fired up
Proc still looks like the best prospect on that team outside of maybe Flip, i also like Power...but that's about it for me.
Foster is fine but he's an average athlete and his arms look very short to me, McCain is small and unimpressive, neither will be getting huge mins as long as Proc/Roach are healthy so I doubt either are 1ADs, not sure if Mitchell/Stewart were there but didn't notice them at all...Mgbako was their best prospect and he had to bounce b/c of all the mouths to feed on that squad
it's gonna be a good college team for sure but don't see any potential first rounders outside Proc/Flip at this point and MAYBE Power but I also doubt he's a 1AD guy too unless he has a huge year
lol. They might have 5 first round picks. It does seem like there there won't be enough minutes for everyone. I'm surprised nobody else besides Mgbako has left. Someone is going to be very unhappy with their playing time. Scheyer is either going to piss off his 1AD guys like Foster, McCain and Power or piss off returners Proctor, Roach and Flip. If he fails to play the obviously more talented freshmen it'll affect recruiting going forward.
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Kentucky vs Africa at the Global Jam. Wagner with 18-7-5. Edwards with 15-5 and 3 steals. Reeves has looked great and had another stellar game scoring 27 pts off 8-11 from three. Dillingham is tiny and a chucker. I'm failing to see what the scouts have been seeing. Sheppard 18-2-8 and is looking like Divencenzo the more I watch him. I'm now not so sure he's even 6'3 though. Either he's 6'2" or he and Wagner are both 6'3" since they're eye to eye. And I may be wrong about Edwards. He could very well be a legit 6'6" or close to it which might be the reason he's listed as 6'8" because they often measure with shoes.
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clyde21 wrote:Jeremy Roach / Caleb Foster / Jared McCain
Tyrese Proctor / Jaylen Blakes
Sean Stewart / Jaden Schutt
Mark Mitchell / TJ Power
Kyle Filipowski / Christian Reeves / Ryan Young
just dont see how many minutes McCain is gonna get here in the backcourt unless again there is an injury or something, both Proc/Roach got 30+ minutes per last season and will again and Foster will get at least 25m, add in Blakes and not much more than 15 mins per left for McCain
it's gonna be a really good college team tho more vets than usual for Duke
McCain will get more minutes than Foster. From what it sounds like so far, McCain has been the standout freshmen out of the group so far in the early early practices.
With that said, unless McCain can really progress with his PG skills, he will be a much much better college player than pro.
I also don’t see Stewart starting. They will either go with a 3 guard lineup or Power. Sounds like Stewart will be the backup 4 and 3rd 5.
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Duke4life831 wrote:clyde21 wrote:Jeremy Roach / Caleb Foster / Jared McCain
Tyrese Proctor / Jaylen Blakes
Sean Stewart / Jaden Schutt
Mark Mitchell / TJ Power
Kyle Filipowski / Christian Reeves / Ryan Young
just dont see how many minutes McCain is gonna get here in the backcourt unless again there is an injury or something, both Proc/Roach got 30+ minutes per last season and will again and Foster will get at least 25m, add in Blakes and not much more than 15 mins per left for McCain
it's gonna be a really good college team tho more vets than usual for Duke
McCain will get more minutes than Foster. From what it sounds like so far, McCain has been the standout freshmen out of the group so far in the early early practices.
With that said, unless McCain can really progress with his PG skills, he will be a much much better college player than pro.
I also don’t see Stewart starting. They will either go with a 3 guard lineup or Power. Sounds like Stewart will be the backup 4 and 3rd 5.
I would say they definitely are going to go to a 3-guard lineup. That's where most of their talent lies and optimizes their offensive potential. It's not like Duke has never done that before. And Proctor has the size to be a 3 man in college on defense, even though we all know he's running the show. Flip, Mitchell, Stewart and Power will rotate the 4/5 spots on most nights.
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Chuck Everett wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:clyde21 wrote:Jeremy Roach / Caleb Foster / Jared McCain
Tyrese Proctor / Jaylen Blakes
Sean Stewart / Jaden Schutt
Mark Mitchell / TJ Power
Kyle Filipowski / Christian Reeves / Ryan Young
just dont see how many minutes McCain is gonna get here in the backcourt unless again there is an injury or something, both Proc/Roach got 30+ minutes per last season and will again and Foster will get at least 25m, add in Blakes and not much more than 15 mins per left for McCain
it's gonna be a really good college team tho more vets than usual for Duke
McCain will get more minutes than Foster. From what it sounds like so far, McCain has been the standout freshmen out of the group so far in the early early practices.
With that said, unless McCain can really progress with his PG skills, he will be a much much better college player than pro.
I also don’t see Stewart starting. They will either go with a 3 guard lineup or Power. Sounds like Stewart will be the backup 4 and 3rd 5.
I would say they definitely are going to go to a 3-guard lineup. That's where most of their talent lies and optimizes their offensive potential. It's not like Duke has never done that before. And Proctor has the size to be a 3 man in college on defense, even though we all know he's running the show. Flip, Mitchell, Stewart and Power will rotate the 4/5 spots on most nights.
Ya I think for sure they start the season with a 3 guard lineup. I wouldn’t be shocked if by the end of the year Power is starting at the 3. His off ball movement and size is perfect for the 3.
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3 guard lineup makes sense but then that means less mins for Power/Stewart...either way someone's mins are getting cannibalized
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clyde21 wrote:3 guard lineup makes sense but then that means less mins for Power/Stewart...either way someone's mins are getting cannibalized
Agreed. At the moment I would put my money on it being Stewart.
Also it’s probably a massive blessing in disguise that Mgbako decided a different school. There would no doubt be behind the scenes chemistry issues because that would be one more guy that would be demanding 25+ minutes.
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Duke4life831 wrote:clyde21 wrote:Jeremy Roach / Caleb Foster / Jared McCain
Tyrese Proctor / Jaylen Blakes
Sean Stewart / Jaden Schutt
Mark Mitchell / TJ Power
Kyle Filipowski / Christian Reeves / Ryan Young
just dont see how many minutes McCain is gonna get here in the backcourt unless again there is an injury or something, both Proc/Roach got 30+ minutes per last season and will again and Foster will get at least 25m, add in Blakes and not much more than 15 mins per left for McCain
it's gonna be a really good college team tho more vets than usual for Duke
McCain will get more minutes than Foster. From what it sounds like so far, McCain has been the standout freshmen out of the group so far in the early early practices.
With that said, unless McCain can really progress with his PG skills, he will be a much much better college player than pro.
I also don’t see Stewart starting. They will either go with a 3 guard lineup or Power. Sounds like Stewart will be the backup 4 and 3rd 5.
which would be nuts since Foster is by far the most talented player on their roster. We'll see. Foster was Scheyer's first 5 star commit this season and they're supposedly close and he by all reports has looked the best in camp (despite whatever reports you're hearing). I mean, just watch the video and you can clearly see that Foster is outperforming everyone at least in that game. I have a feeling that no matter what Foster does you and Clyde will never admit you're wrong about him lmao. This should be a fun season.
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i've said nothing on Foster in this thread other than he's not a great athlete and looks like he has short arms, im pretty agnostic towards the dude otherwise so i don't know what you're talking about
McCain is a fun player but still a small guard without any outlier skills or athletic traits, so unless he has a huge year I just don't see him being a 1AD esp if he doesn't get big mins.
McCain is a fun player but still a small guard without any outlier skills or athletic traits, so unless he has a huge year I just don't see him being a 1AD esp if he doesn't get big mins.
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Don't sleep on my man Ivisic. He is a work in progress, but has interesting mobility for his size and although thin is much more filled than Wemba or Chet. He is a gamble I admit, but his potential is worth gambling for.
https://www.fiba.basketball/europe/u20/2023/news/player-spotlight-zvonimir-ivisic-croatia-s-unicorn
https://www.fiba.basketball/europe/u20/2023/news/player-spotlight-zvonimir-ivisic-croatia-s-unicorn
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BostonCouchGM wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:clyde21 wrote:Jeremy Roach / Caleb Foster / Jared McCain
Tyrese Proctor / Jaylen Blakes
Sean Stewart / Jaden Schutt
Mark Mitchell / TJ Power
Kyle Filipowski / Christian Reeves / Ryan Young
just dont see how many minutes McCain is gonna get here in the backcourt unless again there is an injury or something, both Proc/Roach got 30+ minutes per last season and will again and Foster will get at least 25m, add in Blakes and not much more than 15 mins per left for McCain
it's gonna be a really good college team tho more vets than usual for Duke
McCain will get more minutes than Foster. From what it sounds like so far, McCain has been the standout freshmen out of the group so far in the early early practices.
With that said, unless McCain can really progress with his PG skills, he will be a much much better college player than pro.
I also don’t see Stewart starting. They will either go with a 3 guard lineup or Power. Sounds like Stewart will be the backup 4 and 3rd 5.
which would be nuts since Foster is by far the most talented player on their roster. We'll see. Foster was Scheyer's first 5 star commit this season and they're supposedly close and he by all reports has looked the best in camp (despite whatever reports you're hearing). I mean, just watch the video and you can clearly see that Foster is outperforming everyone at least in that game. I have a feeling that no matter what Foster does you and Clyde will never admit you're wrong about him lmao. This should be a fun season.
Wrong about him? When did I become a Foster hater or something? When Bronny made the McDonald’s team I was on here saying it should’ve been Foster. I would love for Foster to be a flat out stud, nothing would make me happier.
Just because I don’t think he’s the best player on Duke next year doesn’t meant I’m some Foster denier or something haha.
I’ve seen it all now, I’m too closed minded to open my eyes and root for a Duke Blue Devil to be good…
And it’s a highlight video of one practice. You can’t tell who is outperforming who in a highlight video. Hell Ryan Kelly is a dead eye 3pt shooter if we go off that video.
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I guess Donovan Clingan is currently projected to be the best center in this draft since I keep seeing him off the board first at his position in mock drafts as a Top 10 pick.
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Duke4life831 wrote:BostonCouchGM wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:
McCain will get more minutes than Foster. From what it sounds like so far, McCain has been the standout freshmen out of the group so far in the early early practices.
With that said, unless McCain can really progress with his PG skills, he will be a much much better college player than pro.
I also don’t see Stewart starting. They will either go with a 3 guard lineup or Power. Sounds like Stewart will be the backup 4 and 3rd 5.
which would be nuts since Foster is by far the most talented player on their roster. We'll see. Foster was Scheyer's first 5 star commit this season and they're supposedly close and he by all reports has looked the best in camp (despite whatever reports you're hearing). I mean, just watch the video and you can clearly see that Foster is outperforming everyone at least in that game. I have a feeling that no matter what Foster does you and Clyde will never admit you're wrong about him lmao. This should be a fun season.
Wrong about him? When did I become a Foster hater or something? When Bronny made the McDonald’s team I was on here saying it should’ve been Foster. I would love for Foster to be a flat out stud, nothing would make me happier.
Just because I don’t think he’s the best player on Duke next year doesn’t meant I’m some Foster denier or something haha.
I’ve seen it all now, I’m too closed minded to open my eyes and root for a Duke Blue Devil to be good…
And it’s a highlight video of one practice. You can’t tell who is outperforming who in a highlight video. Hell Ryan Kelly is a dead eye 3pt shooter if we go off that video.
no, you're need to be right and "first" outweighs your Duke fandom
oh, now we're pretending you're high on Foster? Too funny. Your need to be right about Bronny drove you to say it should have been Foster instead of him.
if you can't tell who is performing well in a highlight video you're doing it wrong. Hint, it's the guys with all the highlights i.e. Foster, Proctor, Power and McCain
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Two guys everyone should know about before the season starts are Darrion Williams (transferred to Texas Tech) and Kobe Johnson (USC). Both are among the highest BBIQ guys I watched all of last season. Both need to show that they can shoot consistently and hang athletically. I'm a little bit more confident with Kobe in that respect than Darrion who is a very fringe athlete and that might be kind. But he is one of the smartest college players I've ever watched.
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Stribor wrote:Don't sleep on my man Ivisic. He is a work in progress, but has interesting mobility for his size and although thin is much more filled than Wemba or Chet. He is a gamble I admit, but his potential is worth gambling for.
https://www.fiba.basketball/europe/u20/2023/news/player-spotlight-zvonimir-ivisic-croatia-s-unicorn
I like the stuff I've seen on his as well. Kind of makes me think if he should be regarding similarly to how Aday Mara is viewed by the scouting/draft community. Admittedly, I'm not as knowledgeable on either guy.
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