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Re: Russia-Ukraine War Part 2 

Post#281 » by HopelessKnick » Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:43 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Looks like Sweden will be joining soon enough. With Finland and Sweden on board, Russia is closed off from Scandinavia. Their only access to the Baltic now is Kalingrad and the gap between Finland and Estonia.

So it boils down to Belarus and Ukraine now


Putin played himself, and killed thousands of people in the process. What an ass hole.


One bad apple will destroy the whole orchard. Putin, Trump, Hitler, they're all the same guy in different wrappers.


Bush (and Rumsfeld, Powell ) have definitely earned their place on that list. 4.5 million dead people in the middle east from Bush's unprovoked wars of aggression have earned him his spot.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War Part 2 

Post#282 » by Billy Goat » Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:47 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Looks like Sweden will be joining soon enough. With Finland and Sweden on board, Russia is closed off from Scandinavia. Their only access to the Baltic now is Kalingrad and the gap between Finland and Estonia.

So it boils down to Belarus and Ukraine now


Putin played himself, and killed thousands of people in the process. What an ass hole.


One bad apple will destroy the whole orchard. Putin, Trump, Hitler, they're all the same guy in different wrappers.


where does Stalin and Mao fit into this
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War Part 2 

Post#283 » by Zenzibar » Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:01 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Putin played himself, and killed thousands of people in the process. What an ass hole.


One bad apple will destroy the whole orchard. Putin, Trump, Hitler, they're all the same guy in different wrappers.


Bush (and Rumsfeld, Powell ) have definitely earned their place on that list. 4.5 million dead people in the middle east from Bush's unprovoked wars of aggression have earned him his spot.


I dont recall the pres. during Libya and Yemeni unprovoked incursions and total destruction of these resource wealthy arabian govern countries.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War Part 2 

Post#284 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:15 pm

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Clyde_Style wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Putin played himself, and killed thousands of people in the process. What an ass hole.


One bad apple will destroy the whole orchard. Putin, Trump, Hitler, they're all the same guy in different wrappers.


where does Stalin and Mao fit into this


They belong on the list of megalomaniacal sociopaths
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War Part 2 

Post#285 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:31 pm

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Clyde_Style wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Putin played himself, and killed thousands of people in the process. What an ass hole.


One bad apple will destroy the whole orchard. Putin, Trump, Hitler, they're all the same guy in different wrappers.


where does Stalin and Mao fit into this


Is this supposed to be a 'gotcha' question? :lol:
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War Part 2 

Post#286 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:37 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
One bad apple will destroy the whole orchard. Putin, Trump, Hitler, they're all the same guy in different wrappers.


where does Stalin and Mao fit into this


Is this supposed to be a 'gotcha' question? :lol:


Ha ha, exactly what I thought, but I played along, because, um, uh, it is what it is yo

Maybe Stalin and Mao generate more points in the newly updated board game Risk: Dictator Edition

Anyone with the slightest grasp of sociopathy knows what Trump would do if he achieved his dreams of fascist control. Goodbye habeas corpus, hello ovens.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War Part 2 

Post#287 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:38 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
One bad apple will destroy the whole orchard. Putin, Trump, Hitler, they're all the same guy in different wrappers.


where does Stalin and Mao fit into this


They belong on the list of megalomaniacal sociopaths


I'm assuming they asked this because Mao and Stalin were Marxists, as if people who lean politically left ignore the fact that they were both totalitarian nutjobs that killed millions of people.

No one on the left praises either of these animals, but right wingers sure do love them some Trump, Putin and Hitler.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War Part 2 

Post#288 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:42 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
where does Stalin and Mao fit into this


They belong on the list of megalomaniacal sociopaths


I'm assuming they asked this because Mao and Stalin were Marxists, as if people who lean politically left ignore the fact that they were both totalitarian nutjobs that killed millions of people.

No one on the left praises either of these animals, but right wingers sure do love them some Trump, Putin and Hitler.


Good catch. Yes, every time one of those jokers start using the words socialism and marxism you know what's coming next.

The ones who say Hitler was a Socialist are a real chit show. Clowns

I say let's bail out more careless billionaires and pretend it's not socialism for the privileged and connected.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War Part 2 

Post#289 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:44 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
where does Stalin and Mao fit into this


Is this supposed to be a 'gotcha' question? :lol:


Ha ha, exactly what I thought, but I played along, because, um, uh, it is what it is yo

Maybe Stalin and Mao generate more points in the newly updated board game Risk: Dictator Edition

Anyone with the slightest grasp of sociopathy knows what Trump would do if he achieved his dreams of fascist control. Goodbye habeas corpus, hello ovens.


It's projection. Fascist 'strongmen' are revered on the right, so I'm assuming they think that folks on the left view the leftist equivalent of those monsters in the same manner.

I hate all dictators and murderers equally.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War Part 2 

Post#290 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:52 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
They belong on the list of megalomaniacal sociopaths


I'm assuming they asked this because Mao and Stalin were Marxists, as if people who lean politically left ignore the fact that they were both totalitarian nutjobs that killed millions of people.

No one on the left praises either of these animals, but right wingers sure do love them some Trump, Putin and Hitler.


Good catch. Yes, every time one of those jokers start using the words socialism and marxism you know what's coming next.

The ones who say Hitler was a Socialist are a real chit show. Clowns

I say let's bail out more careless billionaires and pretend it's not socialism for the privileged and connected.


Those guys crack me up.

Even if Hitler was a socialist, which he wasn't, what difference does it make? He threw human beings in ovens...I don't care about his political leanings, he was a monster and a coward. No one likes him except for...far right wing conservatives and fascists.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War Part 2 

Post#291 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:54 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
I'm assuming they asked this because Mao and Stalin were Marxists, as if people who lean politically left ignore the fact that they were both totalitarian nutjobs that killed millions of people.

No one on the left praises either of these animals, but right wingers sure do love them some Trump, Putin and Hitler.


Good catch. Yes, every time one of those jokers start using the words socialism and marxism you know what's coming next.

The ones who say Hitler was a Socialist are a real chit show. Clowns

I say let's bail out more careless billionaires and pretend it's not socialism for the privileged and connected.


Those guys crack me up.

Even if Hitler was a socialist, which he wasn't, what difference does it make? He threw human beings in ovens...I don't care about his political leanings, he was a monster and a coward. No one likes him except for...far right wing conservatives and fascists.


Yeah, all of those creeps who would get all bent out of shape from 2015 onwards whenever someone would make the connections between Trump and Nazism can go suck it

He is clearly a Nazi sympathizer.

Donald Trump's ex-wife once said Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8

In the Vanity Fair article, Ivana Trump told a friend that her husband's cousin, John Walter "clicks his heels and says, 'Heil Hitler," when visiting Trump's office


Trump told chief of staff Hitler ‘did a lot of good things’, book says
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/06/donald-trump-hitler-michael-bender-book

Trump is the biggest POS to ever walk the earth.

He just hasn't had the clear path to exercise his impulses as the creeps that preceded him
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War Part 2 

Post#292 » by Billy Goat » Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:21 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Is this supposed to be a 'gotcha' question? :lol:


Ha ha, exactly what I thought, but I played along, because, um, uh, it is what it is yo

Maybe Stalin and Mao generate more points in the newly updated board game Risk: Dictator Edition

Anyone with the slightest grasp of sociopathy knows what Trump would do if he achieved his dreams of fascist control. Goodbye habeas corpus, hello ovens.


It's projection. Fascist 'strongmen' are revered on the right, so I'm assuming they think that folks on the left view the leftist equivalent of those monsters in the same manner.

I hate all dictators and murderers equally.
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Post#293 » by NowWHYcee7 » Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:41 am

DOT wrote:
blue and orange wrote:talking about stopping child trafficking.

If you want to actually discuss stopping child trafficking, that'd be one thing

If you want to push a film which has overtly political messages which mislead about the real issues in order to protect the people actually doing it by casting the blame onto others, that's not actually stopping child trafficking

It's why the guy who shot up the pizza restaurant years ago wasn't actually stopping child trafficking, he was misled into believing something incorrect

I guarantee you don't have to look that deep into the people behind this movie to find a "the Jews are behind all of it" conspiracy theory, and if you are Jewish as you claim, you should question why these conspiracy theories always lead back to the same place.


Yet you support Ukrainians, who proudly display Nazi regalia on the regular. So phony. Please.
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Post#294 » by duetta » Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:48 am

NowWHYcee7 wrote:Yet you support Ukrainians, who proudly display Nazi regalia on the regular. So phony. Please.


Russian misinformation.
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Post#295 » by NowWHYcee7 » Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:54 am

duetta wrote:
NowWHYcee7 wrote:Yet you support Ukrainians, who proudly display Nazi regalia on the regular. So phony. Please.


Russian misinformation.


https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

"In another ominous development, Ukraine has in recent years erected a glut of statues honoring Ukrainian nationalists whose legacies are tainted by their indisputable record as Nazi proxies. The Forward newspaper cataloged some of these deplorables, including Stepan Bandera, leader of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), whose followers acted as local militia members for the SS and German army. “Ukraine has several dozen monuments and scores of street names glorifying this Nazi collaborator, enough to require two separate Wikipedia pages,” the Forward wrote."

Meanwhile, if someone here wanted to erect a statue of Robert E. Lee, you'd blow a gasket. like I said, SO PHONY.
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Post#296 » by duetta » Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:38 pm

NowWHYcee7 wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

"In another ominous development, Ukraine has in recent years erected a glut of statues honoring Ukrainian nationalists whose legacies are tainted by their indisputable record as Nazi proxies. The Forward newspaper cataloged some of these deplorables, including Stepan Bandera, leader of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), whose followers acted as local militia members for the SS and German army. “Ukraine has several dozen monuments and scores of street names glorifying this Nazi collaborator, enough to require two separate Wikipedia pages,” the Forward wrote."

Meanwhile, if someone here wanted to erect a statue of Robert E. Lee, you'd blow a gasket. like I said, SO PHONY.


NO. Robert E. Lee was not a nationalist. He was supporting the preservation of SLAVERY. After serving the US Army for many years, he could have supported his actual country, the United States, whose recently reelected President, Abraham Lincoln, was not threatening the abolition of slavery in the states that already had it, only inhibiting the spread of this despicable institution to other territories (and states, in the aftermath of the disastrous, dishonorable Dred Scott decision - universally judged today as one of the worst decisions in Supreme Court history).

Nationalists often adopt the stance that the enemy of my enemy is my ally - something that even the US did with the Soviet Union in 1942.

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Post#297 » by DOT » Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:27 pm

NowWHYcee7 wrote:
duetta wrote:
NowWHYcee7 wrote:Yet you support Ukrainians, who proudly display Nazi regalia on the regular. So phony. Please.


Russian misinformation.


https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

"In another ominous development, Ukraine has in recent years erected a glut of statues honoring Ukrainian nationalists whose legacies are tainted by their indisputable record as Nazi proxies. The Forward newspaper cataloged some of these deplorables, including Stepan Bandera, leader of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), whose followers acted as local militia members for the SS and German army. “Ukraine has several dozen monuments and scores of street names glorifying this Nazi collaborator, enough to require two separate Wikipedia pages,” the Forward wrote."

Meanwhile, if someone here wanted to erect a statue of Robert E. Lee, you'd blow a gasket. like I said, SO PHONY.

Literally the first line in that article:

Of the many distortions manufactured by Russian President Vladimir Putin to justify Russia’s assault on Ukraine, perhaps the most bizarre is his claim that the action was taken to “denazify” the country and its leadership.


The US has a Nazi problem as well. Doesn't mean I'd support actual fascists like Russia attempting to invade, and this whole "both sides" aloofness y'all have is just comically absurd at this point.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War Part 2 

Post#298 » by rajajackal » Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:37 pm

i do not support us spending money on this war. it is a thinly-veiled proxy battle and a clear step towards more significant international conflict
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Post#299 » by NowWHYcee7 » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:24 pm

DOT wrote:
NowWHYcee7 wrote:
duetta wrote:
Russian misinformation.


https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

"In another ominous development, Ukraine has in recent years erected a glut of statues honoring Ukrainian nationalists whose legacies are tainted by their indisputable record as Nazi proxies. The Forward newspaper cataloged some of these deplorables, including Stepan Bandera, leader of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), whose followers acted as local militia members for the SS and German army. “Ukraine has several dozen monuments and scores of street names glorifying this Nazi collaborator, enough to require two separate Wikipedia pages,” the Forward wrote."

Meanwhile, if someone here wanted to erect a statue of Robert E. Lee, you'd blow a gasket. like I said, SO PHONY.

Literally the first line in that article:

Of the many distortions manufactured by Russian President Vladimir Putin to justify Russia’s assault on Ukraine, perhaps the most bizarre is his claim that the action was taken to “denazify” the country and its leadership.


The US has a Nazi problem as well. Doesn't mean I'd support actual fascists like Russia attempting to invade, and this whole "both sides" aloofness y'all have is just comically absurd at this point.


The Nazi problem in Ukraine is akin to the Islamic fundamentalism problem in Libya, when Obama and home girl Hilary destabilized the the middle east it created ISIL/ISIS and gave them a stronghold in the region. That’s what supporting BS wars and regime change will get you. It’s sad you will unquestionably buy everything the establishment is selling, hook line and sinker.
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Post#300 » by DOT » Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:30 pm

NowWHYcee7 wrote:The Nazi problem in Ukraine is akin to the Islamic fundamentalism problem in Libya, when Obama and home girl Hilary destabilized the the middle east it created ISIL/ISIS and gave them a stronghold in the region. That’s what supporting BS wars and regime change will get you. It’s sad you will unquestionably buy everything the establishment is selling, hook line and sinker.

Someone's mad I actually read his linked article instead of just taking him at his word lol

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