Trade/Free Agency Thread, whose NINE is it anyways?? 2023-24

[Bill Lumbergh]

You're just looking at offense.

There really wouldn't be that much of a difference defensively, imo.

JB is not that good of a defender. He's good, but he's not *that* good. He got beat off the dribble many times last season - especially at key moments, late in the season and in the playoffs. Time and time again, he's been caught ball watching, losing his man in help defense and getting burned, over-helping, not rotating where he's supposed to be, not closing out quick enough or aggressive enough on shooters, etc.

Stats like BPM, EPM, Net Rating, etc. factor in both offense and defense and they all show Lillard as the better player, by a mile.

Seems Lillard's alleged greatness doesn't equate to playoff wins.

Sure, but it's happened with stars before that they don't win at their old spot until they move and team up with different stars. Happened with KG, and Pierce only went to one ECF until Ray and KG arrived.

[playa-hater]

OK If a Bidding war for Embiid happened, I wonder where Boston would rank in assets for Embiid. I think Boston has to be near top slightly ahead of the Knicks and Brooklyn. Contenders only. Unless a OKC wants to give up a ton of draft picks. Plus Tatum and Embiid train together with Drew Hanlen which could help the recruiting part.

Am I missing anyone??

[wangyou18]

Speak it into existence: EMBIID TO THE CELTICS!!!

[Asian Celtic]

I like the idea of JB/Timelord/PP/Picks for JoJo obviously but does a KP and Embiid front court work?

At that point you just trade Porzingis for Marcus Smart, Gallinari, and Muscala to balance out the roster.

We'd be the most insufferable team in the NBA with all the flopping lol. But I like it lmao.

[165bows]

Spotrac doesn’t list a single shooting guard on the Celtics roster.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/cap/

Guess Brad really does need a wing.

[Dogen]

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WCJ in Boston would be sweet

Yes, indeed. Orlando is a good trade partner, they need to move some youth at positions with too many mouths to feed.

WCJ can move into Al's role.

[Andrew McCeltic]

OK If a Bidding war for Embiid happened, I wonder where Boston would rank in assets for Embiid. I think Boston has to be near top slightly ahead of the Knicks and Brooklyn. Contenders only. Unless a OKC wants to give up a ton of draft picks. Plus Tatum and Embiid train together with Drew Hanlen which could help the recruiting part.

Am I missing anyone??

Cleveland. Who could beat Garland/Mobley?

[ryan in Maine]

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JB didn't just go on vacation lol c'mon guys

[Celts17Pride]

Spotrac doesn’t list a single shooting guard on the Celtics roster.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/cap/

Guess Brad really does need a wing.

Rumor is Brad called the Raptors about OG. Raptors said no Muscala, no deal. Brad should have been patient.

A wing (2) and a 3/4 will be coming in a Brogdon deal.

[playa-hater]

OK If a Bidding war for Embiid happened, I wonder where Boston would rank in assets for Embiid. I think Boston has to be near top slightly ahead of the Knicks and Brooklyn. Contenders only. Unless a OKC wants to give up a ton of draft picks. Plus Tatum and Embiid train together with Drew Hanlen which could help the recruiting part.

Am I missing anyone??

Cleveland. Who could beat Garland/Mobley?

That would be very good..but Brown Williams and a lot better draft assets i think could trump that.If Brown would agree to resign

[GoGreen]

Magic have some nice players, and WCJ gets thrown around here a lot, but I can't see any reason why they'd let go of him. He's a legit starting C (and really their only one) on a fantastic contract, plus he's young.

[GoGreen]

So, if we're playing the trade Jaylen game, what I think we know about Brad is he likes players who have impressive advanced stats. He's a big time analytics guy.

So with that said, whoever is available out there, id snoop around at the guys who match that description.

[Hal14]

You're just looking at offense.

There really wouldn't be that much of a difference defensively, imo.

JB is not that good of a defender. He's good, but he's not *that* good. He got beat off the dribble many times last season - especially at key moments, late in the season and in the playoffs. Time and time again, he's been caught ball watching, losing his man in help defense and getting burned, over-helping, not rotating where he's supposed to be, not closing out quick enough or aggressive enough on shooters, etc.

Stats like BPM, EPM, Net Rating, etc. factor in both offense and defense and they all show Lillard as the better player, by a mile.

Seems Lillard's alleged greatness doesn't equate to playoff wins.

He's had really bad supporting casts. 1 player can't do it himself.

Just a few yrs ago he led the Blazers to the WCF, with Enes Freedom, Maurice Harkless, Al-Farouq Aminu and Meyers Leonard starting games in the WCF for the Blazers.

[Hal14]

Magic have some nice players, and WCJ gets thrown around here a lot, but I can't see any reason why they'd let go of him. He's a legit starting C (and really their only one) on a fantastic contract, plus he's young.

Yup. And Orlando has no other center on their team who is any good.

If we added WCJ, we'd have FOUR good centers, lol.

[165bows]

Magic have some nice players, and WCJ gets thrown around here a lot, but I can't see any reason why they'd let go of him. He's a legit starting C (and really their only one) on a fantastic contract, plus he's young.

Yup. And Orlando has no other center on their team who is any good.

If we added WCJ, we'd have FOUR good centers, lol.

We are moving on from Carter Jr to Suggs/Anthony. People just haven’t caught on yet.

[Hal14]

Add Lamar Stevens to the list of wings that we could possibly sign to a minimum contract..

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Brad seems to like acquiring guys who played well vs us. And one of the games we lost to cleveland this season, the cavs brought Stevens off the bench randomly after he was sitting for most of the game, and then he played very solid for them Solid D, grabbed some boards, hit a 3. He played a pivotal role in Cleveland getting that win over us.

If defense first 4/3 is the target, I probably still have more interest in KZ Okpala, if he's still with us. He might be a ghost as there is zero rumor. Very, very, very, low volume, but, check the corner 3 percentages the last 2 years.

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Season      Age  Tm  %3PA  3P%
2019-20      20 MIA 1.000 .000
2020-21      21 MIA  .520 .269
2021-22      22 MIA  .615 .500
2022-23      23 SAC  .524 .455
Career               .551 .370
3 seasons       MIA  .558 .349
1 season        SAC  .524 .455


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That shooting is such low volume, though. Only 0.6 attempts per game from 3 this past season, and only 35 games. Year before that he only played in 21 games, and only 1.2 attempts per game from 3.

That's like nothing.

[Hal14]

Magic have some nice players, and WCJ gets thrown around here a lot, but I can't see any reason why they'd let go of him. He's a legit starting C (and really their only one) on a fantastic contract, plus he's young.

Yup. And Orlando has no other center on their team who is any good.

If we added WCJ, we'd have FOUR good centers, lol.

We are moving on from Carter Jr to Suggs/Anthony. People just haven’t caught on yet.

Ok well I can only see us adding one of those Orlando guards if we trade Brogdon..

[Hal14]

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Only free agent here is Diallo - he could be a good option for us in free agency.

Or we could possibly trade for Wiggins with the Grant TPE..

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

All Jaylen, all the time...

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[165bows]

All Jaylen, all the time...

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These are pretty interesting numbers. Especially considering this team has been super weak outside of the Js at attacking the rim. Where do other players draw fouls from is my question - Jaylen is only solid at FTAs, and despite his top-10 scoring numbers his FTAs lag behind other elite scorers.

Where are they getting their FTAs from if not attacking the hoop?