Trade/Free Agency Thread, whose NINE is it anyways?? 2023-24

[Bill Lumbergh]

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He's alright. I'd rather have Lamar Mundane though. When a 30 footer come rainin out of the sky, it'll wire you up.

[165bows]

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Only free agent here is Diallo - he could be a good option for us in free agency.

Or we could possibly trade for Wiggins with the Grant TPE..

OKC has a crazy number of guards, or really players at the 1-3 at this point.

SGA, Cason Wallace, Dort, Williams, Giddey, I. Joe, Micic, Wiggins, Oladipo, plus a couple scrubs.

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Sign Danny Green.

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I can see him not only helping us on the court, but bringing leadership off the court, too. I can also see him being a good mentor for guys like Hauser and Walsh, helping Walsh with his shooting and helping Hauser with other parts of the game - giving all of our guys advice on what it takes to win a title.

And who knows, maybe he stays here for a year or 2, then retires to become our shooting coach..

Here's the last game Green played big minutes before he tore his ACL:

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:49 nice job moving without the ball, floats to the open spot on the floor, gives Harris a passing angle to get him the ball. Knocks down the corner 3
2:30 gets it in the corner, attacks the closeout, draws a 2nd defender so he kicks it back out to Maxey. Then nice job by Green to quickly relocate back to the corner - Maxey finds him open - Green hits the corner 3. Good basketball.
3:20 again, nice job of moving without the ball, gets to the open spot, hits another corner 3
4:50 again, floats to the open spot in the corner, catches it, and knocks down another 3
5:30 here Green gets caught ball watching, Butler makes him pay by cutting to the hoop for the and-1
5:50 again, nice job of moving without the ball, floats to the open spot in the corner, hits the 3
8:42 again, floats to the open spot in the corner, catches it and hits the 3. His sixth 3 of the game from the corner!

[Andrew McCeltic]

All Jaylen, all the time...

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Looks about right. Great at getting to the rim, tunnel vision doing it. I thought he'd have more poise by now on the attack. But still can't go left and doesn't know how to probe the defense with his drives.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Jaylen does one thing extremely well. He's got strength and athleticism doing it, but doesn't draw fouls at an elite level when he ought to. He's improved as a ballhandler and "playmaker" and diversified his shot repertoire but his offense IQ and awareness are average. He's got defensive fundamentals but makes mental lapses that limit his effectiveness. And he's shown he can be a clutch scorer in high-level playoff games as the second or third best player on his team. He's also shown he can't handle the defensive pressure a first option gets.

That's who he is. Could he improve? Maybe, but he's old enough that the window for major skill leaps (not refinements) is almost gone. And it won't happen on Instagram or sightseeing in Europe.

He takes the world seriously and he's obviously not Kyrie but the shrugs at anti-Semitism aren't charming either.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Jaylen does one thing extremely well. He's got strength and athleticism doing it, but doesn't draw fouls at an elite level when he ought to. He's improved as a ballhandler and "playmaker" and diversified his shot repertoire but his offense IQ and awareness are average. He's got defensive fundamentals but makes mental lapses that limit his effectiveness. And he's shown he can be a clutch scorer in high-level playoff games as the second or third best player on his team. He's also shown he can't handle the defensive pressure a first option gets.

That's who he is. Could he improve? Maybe, but he's old enough that the window for major skill leaps (not refinements) is almost gone. And it won't happen on Instagram or sightseeing in Europe.

He takes the world seriously and he's obviously not Kyrie but the shrugs at anti-Semitism aren't charming either.

To be clear, when you're doing that consistently on a winning team, and doing better against regular season defenses, you're good enough to make second team all-NBA in a down year for top talent. That's a really good player but there's no way he's a top 10 player in the league.

He had a "top 10" season when you can't duplicate positions for an all-NBA team and guys like Kawhi are injured. Next spring voting starts with Embiid, Jokic, Luka, Giannis.. hell, TATUM might not even make first-team next season.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Jaylen should be ECSTATIC that he's in the "bells and whistles" phase where you're paring down the supermax money with incentives and no trade kicker.. The rest is vanity.

[Celts17Pride]

Jaylen should be ECSTATIC that he's in the "bells and whistles" phase where you're paring down the supermax money with incentives and no trade kicker.. The rest is vanity.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are rambling a bunch of nonsense with no clue what is going on behind the scenes. Don’t understand why people do this

[Andrew McCeltic]

Jaylen should be ECSTATIC that he's in the "bells and whistles" phase where you're paring down the supermax money with incentives and no trade kicker.. The rest is vanity.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are rambling a bunch of nonsense with no clue what is going on behind the scenes. Don’t understand why people do this

Look in the mirror if you think two sentences about consensus media reporting is "rambling a bunch of nonsense"

[Asian Celtic]

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It seems to me that it's either a good inside scoring or a turnover.

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This is actually a pretty good video. Watch with the sound on - it's not just a bunch of highlights.

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He actually makes a decent case for why Diallo could be a good fit on the Celtics. There's like 3 mins straight where he shows all of these clips of how good Diallo is at cutting, finding the gaps in the defense, attacking those gaps with cuts. And also how Diallo does the thing that D-White does quite a bit, where the pass will be on its way to him, and rather than waiting for the pass to get there and catching it from a standstill, Diallo will start cutting - while the pass is coming to him so that he is catching the pass on the move - with his momentum going towards the basket, which makes him harder to defend.

Anyways, as you can see in the video, the analyst points out how good Diallo is at doing this stuff to score off ball, rather than just standing there out on the perimeter, spotting up and settling for above the break 3's (as he says this, he shows Marcus Smart spotting up and settling for an above the break 3, doh! lol).

He also talks about Diallo's potential fit with the Celtics at the end of the vid. He says that a good fit for Diallo is with a team that has a player who commands double teams (like Tatum often does) or a team where opponents often try to shut down driving lanes by bringing a help defender at the nail (like miami has done against us during he past 2 postseasons and like GS did to us in the finals). When defenses "load up" on 1 of our guys driving the ball, Diallo is good at finding those gaps in the defense, cutting - and as long as Tatum/Brown/Porzingis keep their head up, they'll find him for lots of easy baskets.

There's a few clips in this vid where the Celtics struggle to attack gaps in the defense (no player cuts to those gaps) and as a result, we throw up a wild shot or turn it over..

But imagine having Porzingis operating at the elbows, where he can either shoot it or pass it - and if he passes it, he could make a high-low pass to Rob (I saw a stat the other day that he is one of the most efficient cutters in the league) or pass to Diallo cutting to the open gap - or pass to Hauser for a 3. *chef's kiss*

I think at this point, my preference for a free agent wing signing is Danny Green - that playoff experience and that experience winning 3 titles could be super valuable for us. Most teams who have won a title in the past 10 years have had guys on the team who have already won a ring before. Think about it - Denver had KCP (who won a ring previously with the Lakers). And this one kind of counts - Braun won an NCAA title in 2022 and won 3 straight Kansas state title in HS. Warriors obviously had already won 3 titles together before they beat us in 2022. Lakers had LeBron, Danny Green and Rondo who all win titles previously. Raptors best player Kawhi won a title already in 2014 .You had the Warriors who won multiple titles together, LeBron already won 2 rings before winning it with cleveland in 2016, etc.

The outlier is the 2021 bucks. But that's definitely an outlier year, because (i think) that NBA finals had literally nobody on either team who had ever even played in the NBA finals before. So yeah, if we can get Danny Green, I say do it. I'm not saying it would make a HUGE difference, I'm not saying it would be this make or break factor, but I think having him here with that experience and knowledge he can pass to our guys on what it takes to win a title could definitely move the needle. Plus we also added Cassell as coach, who won 3 rings as player. But his last ring was 15 yrs ago. Green's was only 3 yrs ago. Why not add them both?

But if we can't get Green, my next choice would probably be Diallo.

[celticgreenie]

Interestingly enough, brissett and banton are known as good cutters as well.

[Green89]

And you can bet it will stay that way until that 18th banner is raised.

Jaylen ranked 50th in the league in PER last season. Porzingis was like 16th.

PER - what is this, 2005?

Show me advanced stats on Jaylen that supports he should get the highest salary in league history.

[zoyathedestroya]

Sixers notoriously haven’t made it past the 2nd round in The Process era and they’ve never even faced Lebron/Cavs or Giannis/Bucks in all that time. Weak.

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Jaylen ranked 50th in the league in PER last season. Porzingis was like 16th.

PER - what is this, 2005?

Show me advanced stats on Jaylen that supports he should get the highest salary in league history.

Lmfao no. Show me where’s you’ve earned giving me homework lol.

[steefP2]

Sixers notoriously haven’t made it past the 2nd round in The Process era and they’ve never even faced Lebron/Cavs or Giannis/Bucks in all that time. Weak.

Embiid in the playoffs; 148 assists to 193 tov.


It can always be worse

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Interestingly enough, brissett and banton are known as good cutters as well.

Walsh is too. That could have certainly factored in in Brad's decision to get them.

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I can't quite take that twitter account seriously with a profile pic of Gary Trent Jr in a santa hat.

[darrendaye]

Interestingly enough, brissett and banton are known as good cutters as well.

Walsh is too. That could have certainly factored in in Brad's decision to get them.

I'd like to think it did.

[JaMarco]

That's who he is. Could he improve? Maybe, but he's old enough that the window for major skill leaps (not refinements) is almost gone.

I don't know if that's true, players can make huge leaps in their late 20s seasons.