Trade/Free Agency Thread, whose NINE is it anyways?? 2023-24

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That's who he is. Could he improve? Maybe, but he's old enough that the window for major skill leaps (not refinements) is almost gone.

I don't know if that's true, players can make huge leaps in their late 20s seasons.

That's not typical, though. And if it does happen, it's usually a player who was a late bloomer - like they didn't finally become a starter in the NBA till they were like 24-25 or something, or they didn't get to the NBA till 22-23 or older. That doesn't apply to JB at all - he's definitely not a late bloomer.

Tatum and Brown are both early bloomers. Both came into the league at a very young age, were contributing to playoff teams at a very young age, made all-star team at a very young age, etc. So they will probably peak earlier, like around 26-27..

[GoCeltics123]

Lamar Stevens would be very good on this team, he'd absolutely have a role off the bench

[Celts17Pride]

Lamar Stevens would be very good on this team, he'd absolutely have a role off the bench

Lamar Stevens is a 6'6" power forward who shoots 28% from three point range. I would hope Brad Stevens can do better.

[GoCeltics123]

Lamar Stevens would be very good on this team, he'd absolutely have a role off the bench

Lamar Stevens is a 6'6" power forward who shoots 28% from three point range. I would hope Brad Stevens can do better.

I understand the hesitancy but he's a very good defender and hustle guy. Like a poor man's GPII.

I wouldn't offer him more than a minimum obviously, but Cavs fans really liked him last year for a reason.

[Celts17Pride]

Lamar Stevens would be very good on this team, he'd absolutely have a role off the bench

Lamar Stevens is a 6'6" power forward who shoots 28% from three point range. I would hope Brad Stevens can do better.

I understand the hesitancy but he's a very good defender and hustle guy. Like a poor man's GPII.

I wouldn't offer him more than a minimum obviously, but Cavs fans really liked him last year for a reason.

Not saying Lamar Stevens is bad, just hope that Brad Stevens could do better. Lamar Stevens would be fine as an end of bench guy.

[JaMarco]

That's who he is. Could he improve? Maybe, but he's old enough that the window for major skill leaps (not refinements) is almost gone.

I don't know if that's true, players can make huge leaps in their late 20s seasons.

That's not typical, though.

Happens all the time: DeRozan, Butler, Paul George, Curry

[GoCeltics123]

Listened to the Hoop Collective

Windhorst mentioned that both the Celtics and Jaylen's sides are "kind of dug in a little bit" on contract details right now, but that he definitely had a good feeling it gets done. Bontemps said his educated guess was that it gets done too.

Windy also mentioned he didn't know what both sides were haggling over, but mentioned player option as a possibility since it's a pretty good chance Jaylen is traded on the contract.

Aka WHAT WE'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER THIS WHOLE TIME

They did mention there's a possibility Derrick White gets extended too FWIW

[Celts17Pride]

Listened to the Hoop Collective

Windhorst mentioned that both the Celtics and Jaylen's sides are "kind of dug in a little bit" on contract details right now, but that he definitely had a good feeling it gets done. Bontemps said his educated guess was that it gets done too.

Windy also mentioned he didn't know what both sides were haggling over, but mentioned player option as a possibility since it's a pretty good chance Jaylen is traded on the contract.

Aka WHAT WE'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER THIS WHOLE TIME

They did mention there's a possibility Derrick White gets extended too FWIW

My opinion is both D White and Pritchard will be extended after Brad Stevens makes a trade involving Brogdon. Part of the reason the Jaylen Brown talks are on hold. No inside information, not going to pretend I know anything, just my guess.

[zoyathedestroya]

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These so-called executives and sources by Steve and Adam are just like us posters here speculating on why this has taken longer than usual. The longer this goes, I think we can come up with more elaborate reasons. I’m disappointed that we have not.

[zoyathedestroya]

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Possible JB is advocating that the brand Juice becomes the new advertising patch in Celtics jerseys. Or the Celtics logo be changed to a lightning bolt for the energy shift.

[steefP2]

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These so-called executives and sources by Steve and Adam are just like us posters here speculating on why this has taken longer than usual. The longer this goes, I think we can come up with more elaborate reasons. I’m disappointed that we have not.

Brad is looking for a way to lay him 400 mil over 5 years instead of 300. How is that for creative ?

[zoyathedestroya]

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[Hal14]

Lamar Stevens is a 6'6" power forward

230 lbs, so definitely beefier than your typical 6'6" guy:
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630205/career

And he actually measured 6'7" at the combine (they round up when you're a half inch over).
https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?CF=POSITION*E*&SeasonYear=2020-21&dir=1&sort=WEIGHT

Also, from the eye test, he can play the 3 just as well as he can play the 4. Good to have the versatility to play either forward spot. Brad was quoted the other day saying he'd like to add a "4/3" type, which is Lamar Stevens.

shoots 28% from three point range.

A little disingenuous to say this, considering he shot 32% from 3 this past season (it was not only his most recent season but also the one where he shot the highest volume of 3's).

He went from 16% his first season, to 28% to 32% this past season, so clearly he's on an upward trajectory.

And Stevens does other things well, besides shooting:

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I would hope Brad Stevens can do better.

All we have to offer is a veteran's minimum contract. Any of the top free agents are likely going to sign elsewhere, with a team that can offer them more money and/or more minutes. How much better do you think Brad can do, given the circumstances?

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Goku to the Celtics...

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[ryan in Maine]

Have we hit the point where people start wondering out loud what Baynes is up to?

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Have we hit the point where people start wondering out loud what Baynes is up to?

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/8592133/aron-baynes-nba-champion-lost-ability-walk-freak-injury/

In the summer of 2021, Baynes started for Australia at the Olympic Games – with the Boomers arriving in Tokyo with gold medal aspirations.

The Aussies ended up with a bronze – but Baynes only received his medal when teammates Matthew Dellavedova and Nathan Sobey visited him in the hospital the day after postgame ceremonies.

Less than two weeks earlier, he was found on the floor with blood all over his uniform and two deep cuts on his arm during a group-stage win over Italy, per ESPN.

The center slipped while on the way to the bathroom between the third and fourth quarter of the clash, seemingly hitting his head on the ground.

Having regained consciousness, Baynes quickly discovered he couldn't walk or move his left hand and arm.

MRI scans then showed he had internal bleeding that was putting pressure on his spine cord, and which required surgery.

The NBA player spent the next 11 days going through intense rehab – while dealing with intense nerve pain – just to be able to stand again, a requirement set for him before he could fly back to Australia.

He still needed to be under anesthesia for the entire 4,000-mile flight home.

A months-long physical therapy then awaited the NBA player in his homeland as he needed to re-learn how to walk

Baynes returned to the court a year later, signing a two-year contract with the NBL's Brisbane Bullets.

But he inked the deal with his sights set on an NBA comeback.

"I don't know what the path will look like, but I'm going to give it one hell of a crack," he said a few months before joining the Bullets.

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she's going to ruin the finals

[Hal14]

Have we hit the point where people start wondering out loud what Baynes is up to?

I made a post last season (around buyout / trade deadline time) saying it might be a good idea to sign him, since he was starting to really come on strong and was playing some solid ball for his team in the NBL.

But I think at this point, that ship has sailed.

We had more of a need for him late in the season, with Rob in and out of the lineup with injuries, Al being old and sitting out back to backs. And Baynes NBL season was finishing up. Xavier Cooks signed on with the Wizards for a late season deal, and joined the Wizards right after his season ended with his NBL team, so I thought perhaps we could do a similar move with Baynes.

But now, this season, Rob is looking like he's healthy, has a full offseason where he's healthy, we added Porzingis. And with Baynes turning 37 in December, I'm just not sure he would add more at this point than we already get with Kornet. And it's a smaller role we would need him to play now (4th big now, as opposed to 3rd big last season).

Last season was probably Baynes best chance at an NBA comeback. Now, 2 full seasons have gone by since he played in the NBA and he'll be 37 soon. I figure he'll just play 1 more season in Australia and then retire.

[darrendaye]

Lamar Stevens is a 6'6" power forward

230 lbs, so definitely beefier than your typical 6'6" guy:
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630205/career

And he actually measured 6'7" at the combine (they round up when you're a half inch over).
https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?CF=POSITION*E*&SeasonYear=2020-21&dir=1&sort=WEIGHT

Also, from the eye test, he can play the 3 just as well as he can play the 4. Good to have the versatility to play either forward spot. Brad was quoted the other day saying he'd like to add a "4/3" type, which is Lamar Stevens.

shoots 28% from three point range.

A little disingenuous to say this, considering he shot 32% from 3 this past season (it was not only his most recent season but also the one where he shot the highest volume of 3's).

He went from 16% his first season, to 28% to 32% this past season, so clearly he's on an upward trajectory.

And Stevens does other things well, besides shooting:

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I would hope Brad Stevens can do better.

All we have to offer is a veteran's minimum contract. Any of the top free agents are likely going to sign elsewhere, with a team that can offer them more money and/or more minutes. How much better do you think Brad can do, given the circumstances?

FWIW, seen arm length calculated as 6'9" and standing reach 8'5".