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goinrogue wrote:He had an up-and-down year, but watching Scottie take over in 4th quarters was eye-opening for me. Really interested to see what he can do without the Fred-Pascal pecking order and nick’s ‘vets eat first’ philosophy
HumbleRen wrote:Scottie needs to be attacking guys off the dribble like this if he wants to be taken seriously as a PG.
OakleyDokely wrote:Scottie still hasn't realized that he's a huge and co-ordinated and he can literally push around 99% of the league. He should be able to bully his way to most spots on the floor. He shouldn't have to settle for low % shots. He's already efficient around the rim and you can become an all-star just by being super efficient within 3ft of the bucket.
DreamTeam09 wrote:goinrogue wrote:He had an up-and-down year, but watching Scottie take over in 4th quarters was eye-opening for me. Really interested to see what he can do without the Fred-Pascal pecking order and nick’s ‘vets eat first’ philosophy
Why does Pascal get grouped into that narrative as well? I can totally understand that viewpoint in regards to FVV & Nurse, but ya'all believe Pascal was force-feeding & looking off Scottie as well? Was Pascal a ball-hog last year in your eyes?
HumbleRen wrote:Scottie needs to be attacking guys off the dribble like this if he wants to be taken seriously as a PG.
HiJiNX wrote:HumbleRen wrote:Scottie needs to be attacking guys off the dribble like this if he wants to be taken seriously as a PG.
So Scottie does indeed have the potential to be a guy who can drive in from the perimeter. I always thought that criticism, as well as the criticism of his handle, was overstated. Barnes’ issue with driving is more about his mentality than physical ability, imo.OakleyDokely wrote:Scottie still hasn't realized that he's a huge and co-ordinated and he can literally push around 99% of the league. He should be able to bully his way to most spots on the floor. He shouldn't have to settle for low % shots. He's already efficient around the rim and you can become an all-star just by being super efficient within 3ft of the bucket.
Agreed. I think this is the key for him next season. He wants to be a finesse player sometimes when he should be leaning into his biggest advantages as a player which are his strength/size and passing ability. Everything starts there. He needs to utilize his strength to get to advantageous positions to either score or pass. It’s pretty simple. His game doesn’t have to be complex. Bully guys, make passes, and take wide open perimeter shots. The game doesn’t have to be as difficult as he’s making it. Master what you’re gifted at and build out from there.
dTox wrote:HiJiNX wrote:HumbleRen wrote:Scottie needs to be attacking guys off the dribble like this if he wants to be taken seriously as a PG.
So Scottie does indeed have the potential to be a guy who can drive in from the perimeter. I always thought that criticism, as well as the criticism of his handle, was overstated. Barnes’ issue with driving is more about his mentality than physical ability, imo.OakleyDokely wrote:Scottie still hasn't realized that he's a huge and co-ordinated and he can literally push around 99% of the league. He should be able to bully his way to most spots on the floor. He shouldn't have to settle for low % shots. He's already efficient around the rim and you can become an all-star just by being super efficient within 3ft of the bucket.
Agreed. I think this is the key for him next season. He wants to be a finesse player sometimes when he should be leaning into his biggest advantages as a player which are his strength/size and passing ability. Everything starts there. He needs to utilize his strength to get to advantageous positions to either score or pass. It’s pretty simple. His game doesn’t have to be complex. Bully guys, make passes, and take wide open perimeter shots. The game doesn’t have to be as difficult as he’s making it. Master what you’re gifted at and build out from there.
part of this is on him, the other part is that we have 3 non shooters in the SL, drawing more defenders in the paint. This is why teams continue to surround players like Giannis, Bron with shooting beside them in almost every position. He can't play bully ball with this many defenders clogging the paint
will wrote:Scottish, baybeeeeee!!!!
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:i'm ready for the next superstar. my body is ready. take me Scottie Barnes.will wrote:Scottish, baybeeeeee!!!!
Tha Cynic wrote:Not many Raptors workout videos this year. Hopefully they're all putting in that much needed work.
will wrote:LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:i'm ready for the next superstar. my body is ready. take me Scottie Barnes.will wrote:Scottish, baybeeeeee!!!!
Even after all these years, someone saying my body is ready is mad wild
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
DemHeavyHands wrote:Anyone know if he’s gonna be apart of the us select team?? He’s been in the program as a teenager so gotta think he’s on the radar?
WaltFrazier wrote:DemHeavyHands wrote:Anyone know if he’s gonna be apart of the us select team?? He’s been in the program as a teenager so gotta think he’s on the radar?
Just saw this article on Wiretap and came to post. Is he not included?
https://theathletic.com/4706806/2023/07/20/team-usa-select-team-roster/
Pretty sad if he's not
Raptorfan2012 wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:DemHeavyHands wrote:Anyone know if he’s gonna be apart of the us select team?? He’s been in the program as a teenager so gotta think he’s on the radar?
Just saw this article on Wiretap and came to post. Is he not included?
https://theathletic.com/4706806/2023/07/20/team-usa-select-team-roster/
Pretty sad if he's not
How are Cade and Jalen Green on the team and Scottie is not. What exactly has Cade and Jalen done in the league that Scottie has not. At least Chet is somewhat interesting (but same idea; what has Chet done?)
DemHeavyHands wrote:Raptorfan2012 wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:
Just saw this article on Wiretap and came to post. Is he not included?
https://theathletic.com/4706806/2023/07/20/team-usa-select-team-roster/
Pretty sad if he's not
How are Cade and Jalen Green on the team and Scottie is not. What exactly has Cade and Jalen done in the league that Scottie has not. At least Chet is somewhat interesting (but same idea; what has Chet done?)
I’ve only seen 5 confirmed for the select team
So still a chance he’s on it?