Trade/Free Agency Thread, whose NINE is it anyways?? 2023-24

[BK_2020]

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Heat will be fine with "filling out their roster" while they wait for the Dame trade - they already did it.. They played 10 guys against us in this past series:

Vincent / Lowry
Strus / Robinson
Butler / Highsmith
Love / Martin
Bam / Zeller

From that list, Vincent/Strus/Zeller are gone. Tyler Herro (back from injury), Josh Richardson and Thomas Bryant are in. Bryant to Zeller is a wash, JRich to Strus is probably close to lateral. Herro over Vincent is an upgrade. On paper they're as good/better. The one area of concern might be that really they only have one PG now in Lowry, but Vincent was more of an off ball guy anyway and any playmaking he brought can probably be duplicated by playing Herro or JRich at the point (both have done so before). Also possible that Jovic or their first rounder this year step up and take on rotation spots and provide further improvement.

I wouldn't be so optimistic if I'm the Heat. Richardson signed a 2 year minimum and Strus signed a 4 year MLE money deal. I don't think the league views them as a wash or even close, really. You also can't form your expectations on how they will do by removing and adding players from the team with their ECF performance as the baseline. They won't have +13.4 net points on shooting variance on wide open threes all season. Jimmy and Lowry are just as likely to take a step back or even fall off a cliff as Jovic is to improve.

[zoyathedestroya]

Did we trade for/sign a true PG yet? Otherwise, no title. That’s what I keep hearing past few seasons. Brad, get on it!

[darrendaye]

Did we trade for/sign a true PG yet? Otherwise, no title. That’s what I keep hearing past few seasons. Brad, get on it!

We're 12 months away from Bradley Beal-ing Tatum.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Read on Twitter

[zoyathedestroya]

Did we see Windhorst says both Stevens and Mazzulla want to emphasize high volume three point shooting offense?

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10083102-celtics-rumors-hc-mazzulla-was-never-in-trouble-for-heat-loss-amid-hot-seat-buzz.amp.html

Would not surprise me to see Rob Williams get dealt and they replace him with a big who can shoot 3's.

If the Celtics are taking 50+ percent of their shots from 3, I'm not watching.

Or they just turn him into a pick-and-pop 3-pt specialist lol.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cu3BbE7tfFU/

[robdog_5]

Mannix and Amina are just homers.

Replacing Smart and Grant with KP is an upgrade.

Saying that "KP worries me" is just bias.

It can be both. Kp injury history and lack of winning can worry you. But you also could have improved your talent/roster.

[Tyakack]

Life without basketball is so boring. I'm damn near tempted to come up with some fantasy trade that will never happen.

[Fierce1]

Mannix and Amina are just homers.

Replacing Smart and Grant with KP is an upgrade.

Saying that "KP worries me" is just bias.

It can be both. Kp injury history and lack of winning can worry you. But you also could have improved your talent/roster.

If KP is healthy then it's a sure upgrade.

Smart and Grant healthy never resulted in a championship.

[tfmiii]

Kornet >>> Embiid

Read on Twitter

Matches the eye test, never wanted him on the Celtics, i pray he never is.

[Fierce1]

Russell, Cowens, Parish, McHale, and KG all resulted in the Celtics winning a chip.

Celts never won a chip without a quality big man.

The 1990s resulted in ZERO championships for the Celtics because they had Radja, Battie, and Potapenko as bigs.

Basketball is a game for tall people.

[Floody100]

Russell, Cowens, Parish, McHale, and KG all resulted in the Celtics winning a chip.

Celts never won a chip without a quality big man.

The 1990s resulted in ZERO championships for the Celtics because they had Radja, Battie, and Potapenko as bigs.

Basketball is a game for tall people.

Are you trying to say my dreams of being an NBA player as a 6’2, 28 year old that’s never played competitive basketball in his life are over ?

How dare you.

[zoyathedestroya]

Read on Twitter

[Bill Lumbergh]

Shamelessly pilfered from bostonceltics reddit. I'm gonna miss this guy.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/598466502236246

[aim2please]

Read on Twitter

Did he really also say that about Pritchard? He was describing himself.

This was the original clip:

Watch on YouTube

Second copy pasta you fell for this summer

[tfribs45]

Mannix and Amina are just homers.

Replacing Smart and Grant with KP is an upgrade.

Saying that "KP worries me" is just bias.

It can be both. Kp injury history and lack of winning can worry you. But you also could have improved your talent/roster.

If KP is healthy then it's a sure upgrade.

Smart and Grant healthy never resulted in a championship.

true but we've been knocking on that door and if you add a vet coach last year, we're at the least in the Finals. The owner and players ran the team when Joe couldn't hold his own. When's the last time you heard of players running the timeouts during a playoff game? Or how about an Owner ripping the team in the locker room during a seven game series for the ECF? This group needed change but it seems like more of a dismantle happening as they cater to Joe's/Brad's 3 ball philosophy. Needless to say, they are all in on Joe and it's win or pack your bags time!

[31to6]

Russell, Cowens, Parish, McHale, and KG all resulted in the Celtics winning a chip.

Celts never won a chip without a quality big man.

The 1990s resulted in ZERO championships for the Celtics because they had Radja, Battie, and Potapenko as bigs.

Basketball is a game for tall people.

The Celtics didn’t win a championship during the 1990s because after Bird retired and Reggie died, they **** sucked. And they didn’t have Bias as the star to carry them past Larry because he also **** died. Having a 6’1” shooting guard (Dee Brown) as your best player isn’t the way to build a champion, but that’s where bad luck put them. Oh and tanking for Timmy didn’t pay off. Thanks for bringing up a lot of painful memories!

Also: Dino is in the HOF and would’ve easily won titles as a key big if he’d been a Chicago Bull.
Also #2: Battie played for Boston from 1999 — 2003.

[165bows]

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Heat will be fine with "filling out their roster" while they wait for the Dame trade - they already did it.. They played 10 guys against us in this past series:

Vincent / Lowry
Strus / Robinson
Butler / Highsmith
Love / Martin
Bam / Zeller

From that list, Vincent/Strus/Zeller are gone. Tyler Herro (back from injury), Josh Richardson and Thomas Bryant are in. Bryant to Zeller is a wash, JRich to Strus is probably close to lateral. Herro over Vincent is an upgrade. On paper they're as good/better. The one area of concern might be that really they only have one PG now in Lowry, but Vincent was more of an off ball guy anyway and any playmaking he brought can probably be duplicated by playing Herro or JRich at the point (both have done so before). Also possible that Jovic or their first rounder this year step up and take on rotation spots and provide further improvement.

I wouldn't be so optimistic if I'm the Heat. Richardson signed a 2 year minimum and Strus signed a 4 year MLE money deal. I don't think the league views them as a wash or even close, really. You also can't form your expectations on how they will do by removing and adding players from the team with their ECF performance as the baseline. They won't have +13.4 net points on shooting variance on wide open threes all season. Jimmy and Lowry are just as likely to take a step back or even fall off a cliff as Jovic is to improve.

1000% this. I’ll preface this by saying I definitely underestimated them going into the playoffs. But still it took Boston kind of playing like total crap and the Heat having an all time hot streak to win in seven games.

But Boston is adding close to a foot in height to their starting lineup and going from one the lower volume/scoring guys to one of the highest in both categories. Imo people are sleeping on how much Cs improved so far and Miami’s off-season has been meh at best.

[Fantaxp7]

I think people are overreacting to the Heat adding Dame, when/if they do. Likely a top 3 seed in the East, not the clear cut best as some of the media think...Also media saying Bucks clearly better than us, pointing to injuries again...well we weren't exempt from injuries either.

I sorta prefer it that way I think our players will take them more serious instead of whatever the hell they did this post season. So perhaps them getting a lot of hype is good lol.

[celtics543]

Russell, Cowens, Parish, McHale, and KG all resulted in the Celtics winning a chip.

Celts never won a chip without a quality big man.

The 1990s resulted in ZERO championships for the Celtics because they had Radja, Battie, and Potapenko as bigs.

Basketball is a game for tall people.

The Celtics didn’t win a championship during the 1990s because after Bird retired and Reggie died, they **** sucked. And they didn’t have Bias as the star to carry them past Larry because he also **** died. Having a 6’1” shooting guard (Dee Brown) as your best player isn’t the way to build a champion, but that’s where bad luck put them. Oh and tanking for Timmy didn’t pay off. Thanks for bringing up a lot of painful memories!

Also: Dino is in the HOF and would’ve easily won titles as a key big if he’d been a Chicago Bull.
Also #2: Battie played for Boston from 1999 — 2003.

I'll never hate on Tony Battie. I'm pretty sure I read the story correct and he effectively saved Paul Pierce's life the night he got stabbed in Philly.

[Hal14]

It can be both. Kp injury history and lack of winning can worry you. But you also could have improved your talent/roster.

If KP is healthy then it's a sure upgrade.

Smart and Grant healthy never resulted in a championship.

true but we've been knocking on that door and if you add a vet coach last year, we're at the least in the Finals. The owner and players ran the team when Joe couldn't hold his own. When's the last time you heard of players running the timeouts during a playoff game? Or how about an Owner ripping the team in the locker room during a seven game series for the ECF? This group needed change but it seems like more of a dismantle happening as they cater to Joe's/Brad's 3 ball philosophy. Needless to say, they are all in on Joe and it's win or pack your bags time!

Oh please. Veteran players speak up during timeouts all the time.

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

There's countless other times this has happened in NBA history.

You don't have to turn every conversation into an attack on Mazzulla.