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Having a few guys that will actually cut with intent to score should help. Tough to rack up assists when half the team can only score in about 10% of the court.
OTOH, can’t get too wedded to these kinds of statistics. Title teams are almost always led by top 3-5 draft picks but that hasn’t been the case two out of the last three years. And as good as Jokic looks, could easily continue that way.
OTOH, can’t get too wedded to these kinds of statistics. Title teams are almost always led by top 3-5 draft picks but that hasn’t been the case two out of the last three years. And as good as Jokic looks, could easily continue that way.
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keevsnick1 wrote:zoyathedestroya wrote:
According to my sources, this is also the opening offer on the table for JB. So the signing delay is a bit understandable.
Brown: I'd like the full 35% max, a 15% Trade Kicker and a 5th year player option.
Brad: Best i can is 15/hr, a week of PTO (after 3 years), the right to wear jeans on Friday's and and 1 pizza party a quarter.
Brown: That's insulting.
Brad: All right, jeez. *Reaches into pockets*. I'll throw in a chipotle gift card with $16.59 left on it.
If it was a Dunkin Donuts gift card, I would sign...

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Hal14 wrote:
Hmm, I wonder what team needs a combo-guard AND has enough cap space that they won't be hard capped by executing a S&T?
Perhaps he just signs for the TPMLE with a team that has the cap space to give him that deal (and needs guard depth) and then chicago just declines to match the offer?
Surely, Chicago will try to get *something* for him, at least..
I'd love him on the Celtics, but the Raptors and Heat are the two most likely destinations for him
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Fierce1 wrote:31to6 wrote:Fierce1 wrote:Russell, Cowens, Parish, McHale, and KG all resulted in the Celtics winning a chip.
Celts never won a chip without a quality big man.
The 1990s resulted in ZERO championships for the Celtics because they had Radja, Battie, and Potapenko as bigs.
Basketball is a game for tall people.
The Celtics didn’t win a championship during the 1990s because after Bird retired and Reggie died, they **** sucked. And they didn’t have Bias as the star to carry them past Larry because he also **** died. Having a 6’1” shooting guard (Dee Brown) as your best player isn’t the way to build a champion, but that’s where bad luck put them. Oh and tanking for Timmy didn’t pay off. Thanks for bringing up a lot of painful memories!
Also: Dino is in the HOF and would’ve easily won titles as a key big if he’d been a Chicago Bull.
Also #2: Battie played for Boston from 1999 — 2003.
Dino made the HOF as an international player, not as an NBA player.
Don't confuse Dino's greatness in international competition with his NBA career because Dino never made an All-Star team in the NBA.
And when the Celtics played MJ and the Bulls, during Dino's time, Dino was always held in check by Horace Grant.
You're confusing correlation with causation.
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Well are you satisfied with this rotation?
White, brown, Tatum, unicorn, timelord
Pp, Brogdon, brissett, huaser, horford
Banton, champ, walsh, ....., Kornet
2way: JD, scrubb
Are you well are you?
Does this new live by the 3 die by the 3 scare the rest of the league? Honestly where is this team as is end up ? Ec again? championship?
For the record it's 3rd seed and 2nd round loss for me. I 100% believe we can't and won't win a ring with Joe as the head coach. Which means everyone freaking out about brown leaving or needing to be traded etc. Etc. I'm more worried about Tatum's loyalty than brown's in fact out of all I've read from both on loyalty Tatum has said he would play with smart again and win it all. Only piece I found with actual words about it. So we essentially have a two/three year win now window before Tatum is out that door
White, brown, Tatum, unicorn, timelord
Pp, Brogdon, brissett, huaser, horford
Banton, champ, walsh, ....., Kornet
2way: JD, scrubb
Are you well are you?
Does this new live by the 3 die by the 3 scare the rest of the league? Honestly where is this team as is end up ? Ec again? championship?
For the record it's 3rd seed and 2nd round loss for me. I 100% believe we can't and won't win a ring with Joe as the head coach. Which means everyone freaking out about brown leaving or needing to be traded etc. Etc. I'm more worried about Tatum's loyalty than brown's in fact out of all I've read from both on loyalty Tatum has said he would play with smart again and win it all. Only piece I found with actual words about it. So we essentially have a two/three year win now window before Tatum is out that door
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Larry_Russell wrote:zoyathedestroya wrote:Larry_Russell wrote:
Championship teams have a lead "playmaker" though.
Assist %s
Jokic 46.6
Warriors - 2 above 30
Bucks - 3 above 23
Lakers - Lebron at 49
Raptors - Lowry at 35
Warriors - 2 at 25 - 1 at 30
Warriors 1 at 27 and 1 at 31
Cavs LEbron 36 Kyrie 26
etc
etc
etc
All the championship teams have at least 1 guy at or above 30 with the exception of the bucks who had 3 guys over 23.
Based on last year numbers our top guys were
Smart at 26.5 ------Gone
Brogdon at 21.5
Tatum at 20.9
White at 19.5
Brown at 16.5
KP last year was 12.9
I am not sure where to find Whites assist% in games without Smart last year but his APG was just a smidge over 5. Shiort of Smarts average of 6.3
So that means our best passer will be at around 25% assist rate. Well short of needing at least one over 30.
White was close to 28% assist rate in the 11-game stretch Smart was out. But I don’t think that’s the direction this team is going. I think we’ll use our bigs more in the half court as offensive hubs and lean more on Tatum as a primary playmaker.
Brogdon topped at 26.9% in his last season with the Pacers. He potentially could replicate that as the primary playmaker for the second unit.
If that is the play, with big and tatum initiating, then someone needs to up the assist rate bigtime.
Thats the point, GSWs best passer is Green, Jokic with Denver, Giannis with Bucks.
Someone needs to distibute.
1 time in the past 20ish years has a team won the title without someone in the 30s or above and that was the warriors with Curry, Draymond and Klay all above 23.
The chances of replicating that success is pretty low, imo, when history dictates needing at least 1 person who can settle down an offense and get everyone set up and get an offense started.
So low is the rate of success that you could count it on 1 hand. ANd that GSW team had 2 of the greatest shooters of all time who can get a shot off from anywhere at anytime....and they still made plays for teammates.
If our bigs and tatum are going to be primary distributors then Tatum needs to be in the 30s minimum (In the Giannis low to mid 30s) and White up his to mid 20s, and Porzingas and Brown both up theirs to the 20 range.
If that happens then I think we will be fine
A mid 30
a mid 20
and 3 other 20s (brown, KP, Brogdon)
It just has not happened yet, Jayson has been stagnant with his assist% since 2020-21 season (3 years)Brown too.
And if the plan is to jack threes, then no one is going to attack and kick, no one is going to want to put in effort to start that offense...not that I can see at least.
I hope I am wrong as I do not want a my turn your turn 3pointer heavy offense.
You're wrong that it's only happened once in the last 20 yrs. First off, I'm pretty sure Steph was at a 30% or higher assist rate during each season GS won the title. So I'm not counting them. And I'm not counting the Bucks (Giannis' assist % was actually 31 during the season Milwaukee won the title).
But I am counting these teams:
1. 2010 Lakers
2. 2009 Lakers
3. 2008 Celtics
4. 2004 Pistons
Also, it was 21 yrs ago, but the 02 Lakers also qualify.
With that being said, this is why I would be down with flipping JB for someone like Dame or Trae.
Or possibly sign John Wall to a minimum contract.
If not, we'll be ok. 5 teams have won a title recently without a 30% assist rate guy and we can do it too. It doesn't necessarily have to be one guy doing all of the distributing. It can be all 5 guys on the floor, moving the ball and working to find the best shot possible.
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zoyathedestroya wrote:Larry_Russell wrote:bisme37 wrote:I've been thinking we need a legit pass-first playmaking point guard. But I have no idea who it is.
There are very few of them left in the league these days and most teams don't have one, including most of the recent champions. And then when I start thinking of names, most of them aren't better players than the guards we have and therefore would probably not even get minutes.
So now I'm wondering why I've been so obsessed with getting a pass-first playmaking point guard when it's not really a thing that most Championship teams have or need.
Championship teams have a lead "playmaker" though.
Assist %s
Jokic 46.6
Warriors - 2 above 30
Bucks - 3 above 23
Lakers - Lebron at 49
Raptors - Lowry at 35
Warriors - 2 at 25 - 1 at 30
Warriors 1 at 27 and 1 at 31
Cavs LEbron 36 Kyrie 26
etc
etc
etc
All the championship teams have at least 1 guy at or above 30 with the exception of the bucks who had 3 guys over 23.
Based on last year numbers our top guys were
Smart at 26.5 ------Gone
Brogdon at 21.5
Tatum at 20.9
White at 19.5
Brown at 16.5
KP last year was 12.9
I am not sure where to find Whites assist% in games without Smart last year but his APG was just a smidge over 5. Shiort of Smarts average of 6.3
So that means our best passer will be at around 25% assist rate. Well short of needing at least one over 30.
White was close to 28% assist rate in the 11-game stretch Smart was out. But I don’t think that’s the direction this team is going. I think we’ll use our bigs more in the half court as offensive hubs and lean more on Tatum as a primary playmaker.
Brogdon topped at 26.9% in his last season with the Pacers. He potentially could replicate that as the primary playmaker for the second unit.
Now that I think about it, is that even a thing? You need someone with an assist rate of 30%+ in the REGULAR SEASON? I get wanting to have a primary playmaker who can dish dimes when the game slows down in the halfcourt but if you go through the last 16 champion teams, only EIGHT of them had a player with a 30%+ assist rate in the postseason when it matters more.
In fact when Cs recently made the Finals, Smart and Tatum (25.8%, 26.3%) nearly matched Green and Curry’s assist rates (25.6%, 26.9%) for that playoff run. Neither team had a 30%+ assist rate guy.
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Just gotta score more points than given up, simple as.
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BK_2020 wrote:Just gotta score more points than given up, simple as.
And not even 60% of the time in the playoffs. More teams should win titles every year.
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Two of the top four most efficient post players in the league.
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Sell the farm and get Caruso. Jeez
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captain green wrote:Well are you satisfied with this rotation?
White, brown, Tatum, unicorn, timelord
Pp, Brogdon, brissett, huaser, horford
Banton, champ, walsh, ....., Kornet
2way: JD, scrubb
Are you well are you?
Does this new live by the 3 die by the 3 scare the rest of the league? Honestly where is this team as is end up ? Ec again? championship?
For the record it's 3rd seed and 2nd round loss for me. I 100% believe we can't and won't win a ring with Joe as the head coach. Which means everyone freaking out about brown leaving or needing to be traded etc. Etc. I'm more worried about Tatum's loyalty than brown's in fact out of all I've read from both on loyalty Tatum has said he would play with smart again and win it all. Only piece I found with actual words about it. So we essentially have a two/three year win now window before Tatum is out that door
Very satisfied with the roster, and entirely think they’ll be contenders for the #1 overall seed and the title. I don’t think our head coach is currently a strength, but am glad they brought in probably the top two assistants on the market.
But hey maybe the sky is falling — to each their own.
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31to6 wrote:captain green wrote:Well are you satisfied with this rotation?
White, brown, Tatum, unicorn, timelord
Pp, Brogdon, brissett, huaser, horford
Banton, champ, walsh, ....., Kornet
2way: JD, scrubb
Are you well are you?
Does this new live by the 3 die by the 3 scare the rest of the league? Honestly where is this team as is end up ? Ec again? championship?
For the record it's 3rd seed and 2nd round loss for me. I 100% believe we can't and won't win a ring with Joe as the head coach. Which means everyone freaking out about brown leaving or needing to be traded etc. Etc. I'm more worried about Tatum's loyalty than brown's in fact out of all I've read from both on loyalty Tatum has said he would play with smart again and win it all. Only piece I found with actual words about it. So we essentially have a two/three year win now window before Tatum is out that door
Very satisfied with the roster, and entirely think they’ll be contenders for the #1 overall seed and the title. I don’t think our head coach is currently a strength, but am glad they brought in probably the top two assistants on the market.
But hey maybe the sky is falling — to each their own.
I don't know if I'm the sky is falling but I'm just not convinced of the coach and tad better bench. https://hoopshabit.com/2023/06/30/2023-2024-nba-coaches-tier-list-six-coaches-stand-rest/ I tend to think you need a decent coach to win it all
Over all I'm team unicorn is better than smart.
Team brissett is better than can't will
Team keep Brogdon and brown
Didn't like the draft pick but he did good in summer league so neutral on that.
I don't like champ, kornet Hauser or JD and definitely dislike Joe"blows it" mazzula
And part of me is nervous about pp and banton as the back up point. Nervous about pp already asked for a trade and banton not much playing time.
Over all improvement team wise and adding in sam on coaching is better but imo not enough.
But say we add on more legitimate player and say a real coach like Jeff van gundy is enough to sway me to yes we could win the ec. As opposed to me now which thinks we won't get to the ec. I'm 40/60 right now
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fallguy wrote:bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Two of the top four most efficient post players in the league.
And Brad signing cutters like Banton, Brissett, Walsh and Scrubb. I think Porzingis will be in the high post a lot this year. He can shoot over people and is triple threat in going to the hoop or passing to 3pt or cutter. He and Tatum may be doing a lot of point forward with this lineup.

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captain green wrote:31to6 wrote:captain green wrote:Well are you satisfied with this rotation?
White, brown, Tatum, unicorn, timelord
Pp, Brogdon, brissett, huaser, horford
Banton, champ, walsh, ....., Kornet
2way: JD, scrubb
Are you well are you?
Does this new live by the 3 die by the 3 scare the rest of the league? Honestly where is this team as is end up ? Ec again? championship?
For the record it's 3rd seed and 2nd round loss for me. I 100% believe we can't and won't win a ring with Joe as the head coach. Which means everyone freaking out about brown leaving or needing to be traded etc. Etc. I'm more worried about Tatum's loyalty than brown's in fact out of all I've read from both on loyalty Tatum has said he would play with smart again and win it all. Only piece I found with actual words about it. So we essentially have a two/three year win now window before Tatum is out that door
Very satisfied with the roster, and entirely think they’ll be contenders for the #1 overall seed and the title. I don’t think our head coach is currently a strength, but am glad they brought in probably the top two assistants on the market.
But hey maybe the sky is falling — to each their own.
I don't know if I'm the sky is falling but I'm just not convinced of the coach and tad better bench. https://hoopshabit.com/2023/06/30/2023-2024-nba-coaches-tier-list-six-coaches-stand-rest/ I tend to think you need a decent coach to win it all
Over all I'm team unicorn is better than smart.
Team brissett is better than can't will
Team keep Brogdon and brown
Didn't like the draft pick but he did good in summer league so neutral on that.
I don't like champ, kornet Hauser or JD and definitely dislike Joe"blows it" mazzula
And part of me is nervous about pp and banton as the back up point. Nervous about pp already asked for a trade and banton not much playing time.
Over all improvement team wise and adding in sam on coaching is better but imo not enough.
But say we add on more legitimate player and say a real coach like Jeff van gundy is enough to sway me to yes we could win the ec. As opposed to me now which thinks we won't get to the ec. I'm 40/60 right now
So last season we made it to game 7 of the ECF.
And you admit that we did improve our roster and also improved our coaching staff with the new assistant hirings.
And we have the same HC as last year.
Yet somehow you think that we won't make the ECF..

And that's not even factoring in that it was insane shooting luck for Miami that led to them beating us in the ECF. Literally, the most shooting luck in NBA history (both in terms of lucky shooting for MIA and unlucky shooting for BOS) not to mention injury luck (tatum sprained ankle in game 7, JB played whole series w/ injured wrist, Grant had injured hand, Brogdon injured elbow, Rob puking all game during game 7, etc.)
And sorry but your Hoops Habit article (that you felt the need to post in 2 different threads now) doesn't prove anything. Looks like it was written by Tyler Key. No idea who that is. Let's see how many Twitter followers he has. Oh wait, I can't even find him on Twitter at all. Hmmm...
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Good to see Stool Greenie not overreacting...
A guy who is already bringing you DPOY caliber defense suddenly nailing jumpers? That's Kevin Garnett-Lite. I can understand this sounds crazy…..because it is. But if we're going to get nuts, let's get **** nuts. While I do not think this is where we're headed in 2023-24, it sure as **** feels like we're on a path to a world where Rob is taking and making 15 footers with confidence. A world where he has a float game in the paint. His touch is already so good, that just seems like the natural progression of his offensive development. Maybe throw a jump hook in there for fun. Remember Al Horford? That guy couldn't hit a three to save his life once upon a time. Brook Lopez? He took just 6 3PA in his first 325 career games and now look at what he's doing. He's made 788 3PM over his last 604 games.
A guy who is already bringing you DPOY caliber defense suddenly nailing jumpers? That's Kevin Garnett-Lite. I can understand this sounds crazy…..because it is. But if we're going to get nuts, let's get **** nuts. While I do not think this is where we're headed in 2023-24, it sure as **** feels like we're on a path to a world where Rob is taking and making 15 footers with confidence. A world where he has a float game in the paint. His touch is already so good, that just seems like the natural progression of his offensive development. Maybe throw a jump hook in there for fun. Remember Al Horford? That guy couldn't hit a three to save his life once upon a time. Brook Lopez? He took just 6 3PA in his first 325 career games and now look at what he's doing. He's made 788 3PM over his last 604 games.
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Hal14 wrote:captain green wrote:31to6 wrote:
Very satisfied with the roster, and entirely think they’ll be contenders for the #1 overall seed and the title. I don’t think our head coach is currently a strength, but am glad they brought in probably the top two assistants on the market.
But hey maybe the sky is falling — to each their own.
I don't know if I'm the sky is falling but I'm just not convinced of the coach and tad better bench. https://hoopshabit.com/2023/06/30/2023-2024-nba-coaches-tier-list-six-coaches-stand-rest/ I tend to think you need a decent coach to win it all
Over all I'm team unicorn is better than smart.
Team brissett is better than can't will
Team keep Brogdon and brown
Didn't like the draft pick but he did good in summer league so neutral on that.
I don't like champ, kornet Hauser or JD and definitely dislike Joe"blows it" mazzula
And part of me is nervous about pp and banton as the back up point. Nervous about pp already asked for a trade and banton not much playing time.
Over all improvement team wise and adding in sam on coaching is better but imo not enough.
But say we add on more legitimate player and say a real coach like Jeff van gundy is enough to sway me to yes we could win the ec. As opposed to me now which thinks we won't get to the ec. I'm 40/60 right now
So last season we made it to game 7 of the ECF.
And you admit that we did improve our roster and also improved our coaching staff with the new assistant hirings.
And we have the same HC as last year.
Yet somehow you think that we won't make the ECF..
And that's not even factoring in that it was insane shooting luck for Miami that led to them beating us in the ECF. Literally, the most shooting luck in NBA history (both in terms of lucky shooting for MIA and unlucky shooting for BOS) not to mention injury luck (tatum sprained ankle in game 7, JB played whole series w/ injured wrist, Grant had injured hand, Brogdon injured elbow, Rob puking all game during game 7, etc.)
And sorry but your Hoops Habit article (that you felt the need to post in 2 different threads now) doesn't prove anything. Looks like it was written by Tyler Key. No idea who that is. Let's see how many Twitter followers he has. Oh wait, I can't even find him on Twitter at all. Hmmm...
One thing I know for certain is that this is the most boring time of the year for NBA fans. Draft’s over, almost all of FA is over, most major trades are done or stuck in limbo — I mean we can’t even get it up about Lillard right now. We’ve talked Jaylen and Walsh and who’s our 3rd string PG to exhaustion. I’m glad we’re headed out on vacation soon, and I’m sure I’ll keep checking the board, and maybe there’ll be more to say about the Jaylen negotiations, but right now? All I want to do is get my optimism about the upcoming season on record. And I know it doesn’t matter for many more months until a bunch of games have been played.
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Hal14 wrote:captain green wrote:31to6 wrote:
Very satisfied with the roster, and entirely think they’ll be contenders for the #1 overall seed and the title. I don’t think our head coach is currently a strength, but am glad they brought in probably the top two assistants on the market.
But hey maybe the sky is falling — to each their own.
I don't know if I'm the sky is falling but I'm just not convinced of the coach and tad better bench. https://hoopshabit.com/2023/06/30/2023-2024-nba-coaches-tier-list-six-coaches-stand-rest/ I tend to think you need a decent coach to win it all
Over all I'm team unicorn is better than smart.
Team brissett is better than can't will
Team keep Brogdon and brown
Didn't like the draft pick but he did good in summer league so neutral on that.
I don't like champ, kornet Hauser or JD and definitely dislike Joe"blows it" mazzula
And part of me is nervous about pp and banton as the back up point. Nervous about pp already asked for a trade and banton not much playing time.
Over all improvement team wise and adding in sam on coaching is better but imo not enough.
But say we add on more legitimate player and say a real coach like Jeff van gundy is enough to sway me to yes we could win the ec. As opposed to me now which thinks we won't get to the ec. I'm 40/60 right now
So last season we made it to game 7 of the ECF.
And you admit that we did improve our roster and also improved our coaching staff with the new assistant hirings.
And we have the same HC as last year.
Yet somehow you think that we won't make the ECF..
And that's not even factoring in that it was insane shooting luck for Miami that led to them beating us in the ECF. Literally, the most shooting luck in NBA history (both in terms of lucky shooting for MIA and unlucky shooting for BOS) not to mention injury luck (tatum sprained ankle in game 7, JB played whole series w/ injured wrist, Grant had injured hand, Brogdon injured elbow, Rob puking all game during game 7, etc.)
And sorry but your Hoops Habit article (that you felt the need to post in 2 different threads now) doesn't prove anything. Looks like it was written by Tyler Key. No idea who that is. Let's see how many Twitter followers he has. Oh wait, I can't even find him on Twitter at all. Hmmm...
Different year my guy I don't know anything about Twitter authors I read a lot of stuff. Some I agree with some I don't. I agree that coach Joe is garbage. And hopefully just Sam can be enough the others are new. So I feel like we haven't done enough in that department and the other post was in the coach department and this discussion had a reasonable reason to be posted so meh on that and yes I feel like we have a better team but also more risks with accountability and live by the 3 and die by the 3 philosophy. And Injuries happened but also heads collided during play offs it's not rumors it's facts and sam calls it like he sees it so with no real leadership in the locker room I feel adding another vet player and vet coach is absolutely a positive. I've listed pro's and con's my guy and I want to win it all I'm just not a homer. One of Hauser,pp,banton,kornet,champ has to step up big time
Brogdon, timelord, unicorn,Tatum,brown, horford all have to be healthy in the playoffs.
White and walsh I think will be solid all year so not concerned as much about these two.
Like I said I'm 40/60 last year I was higher I was 50/50. The year before I was 55/45 it fluctuates my dude
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