Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[Stanford]

Other than the LA aspect of it, I don’t really get why James would want to go to the Clippers.

Nobody else wants him. The Rockets preferred to give Fred VanVleet 40+ a year. The secret is out.

[sixers hoops]

Is there a specific date when Kenyon Martin can get traded again?

Norman Powell
Terance Mann
Kenyon Martin
rights to Kobe Brown

That adds up to over $30m. Throw in some pick swaps and I'd do the deal.

I don't feel the need to get a star in return for Harden because his age, intangibles, and playoff play are all garbage so let's not all kid ourselves.

Yeah. I don’t look for a star return. Morey traded two firsts for an uncommitted 31 year old, so I’m not surprised he lost value. He only has value to teams ready to contend, or teams looking for an expiring contract. Nobody wants to deal with him unless they really believe he is the difference in winning a title.

At the same time, he is still a high level player and an expiring contract, so I’m not moving him just to get him out of town.

Many think Norman Powell has a negative value contract, I think at least one first is reasonable.

[Negrodamus]

Other than the LA aspect of it, I don’t really get why James would want to go to the Clippers.

Nobody else wants him. The Rockets preferred to give Fred VanVleet 40+ a year. The secret is out.

Yea, but his ideal situation is probably right here in Philly is what I meant, so why try to force your way to LA other than the weather is nice and you're from that general area? He'd probably also get the most amount of money from Philly moving forward. The whole thing is stupid.

[Arsenal]

Other than the LA aspect of it, I don’t really get why James would want to go to the Clippers.

Nobody else wants him. The Rockets preferred to give Fred VanVleet 40+ a year. The secret is out.

Yea, but his ideal situation is probably right here in Philly is what I meant, so why try to force your way to LA other than the weather is nice and you're from that general area? He'd probably also get the most amount of money from Philly moving forward. The whole thing is stupid.

He probably thinks there's also a higher chance of getting that last big contract in LA. Seems reasonable considering we just refused to give him that. Plus there he could form a nexus with Leonard and George to leverage the team into paying all 3 of them.

[sixers4real]

I’m with Morey here.
I LOVE his attempt to get a star mate for Embiid while keeping Maxey.
I just think his list is a little different this time.
Jaylen Brown, Ingram, Siakam and others. Guys under 30 in prime.

I would hate a Harden trade for a meh role players from Clippers. Not a title team. Not even close. And Powell + Mann are taking away 2024 summer flexibility Morey’s talking about.

Hyland + unprotected picks + expirings is a complete different story.

[Negrodamus]

New York made contact with the Chicago Bulls about their shooting guard, Zach LaVine, but the asking price for the two-time All-Star was “giant,” as one league source told The Athletic, which is exactly why LaVine remains in Chicago. The Knicks and Bulls, according to league sources, never got close.

https://theathletic.com/4705714/2023/07/20/knicks-joel-embiid-trade/

Dang, I guess we won't get LaVine. Bring on DeRozan.

[Jailblazers7]

Ballmer is famously a bad CEO. Did a terrible job running Microsoft & now he's a players dream of an owner (kinda dumb but willing to spend). Probably not the worst plan in the world if Harden wants his last contact.

[Iverson Armband]

I’m with Morey here.
I LOVE his attempt to get a star mate for Embiid while keeping Maxey.
I just think his list is a little different this time.
Jaylen Brown, Ingram, Siakam and others. Guys under 30 in prime.

I would hate a Harden trade for a meh role players from Clippers. Not a title team. Not even close. And Powell + Mann are taking away 2024 summer flexibility Morey’s talking about.

Hyland + unprotected picks + expirings is a complete different story.

People think because we traded Ben for a star we can do it again. That was a very unique situation. Morey was lucky, nobody is currently forcing their way here.

So tell me how you expect to get a Jaylen Brown, BI or Siakum with the assets we currently have? We’re not getting a bunch back for Harden in order to get one of them because nobody wants him and well… he sucks.

I agree that we shouldn’t take on the contract of Powell though. Mann is only signed for 2 more years at a very decent number. That’s not a bad contract at all that can be moved if need be. Mann, some expirings, maybe a prospect and a pick or two is fair and if Morey were to reject hoping for some godfather offer he should be fired immediately. I don’t think it’s being offered though.

[Stanford]

Yea, but his ideal situation is probably right here in Philly is what I meant, so why try to force your way to LA other than the weather is nice and you're from that general area?

Because Daryl hurt his feelings.

[sixers4real]

I’m with Morey here.
I LOVE his attempt to get a star mate for Embiid while keeping Maxey.
I just think his list is a little different this time.
Jaylen Brown, Ingram, Siakam and others. Guys under 30 in prime.

I would hate a Harden trade for a meh role players from Clippers. Not a title team. Not even close. And Powell + Mann are taking away 2024 summer flexibility Morey’s talking about.

Hyland + unprotected picks + expirings is a complete different story.

Please tell me how you expect to get a Jaylen Brown, BI or Siakum with the assets we currently have. We’re not getting a bunch back for Harden in order to get one of them because nobody wants him and well… he sucks.

I agree that we shouldn’t take on the contract of Powell though. Mann is only signed for 2 more years at a very decent number, that’s not a bad contract at all that can be moved if need be. Mann, some expirings, maybe a prospect and a pick or two is fair and if Morey were to reject hoping for some godfather offer he should be fired immediately. I don’t think it’s being offered though.

1. Jaylen Brown has yet to sign a super-max extension. With Celtics. If he won’t, we can sign him as FA in 2024.
2. Pascal Siakam is a FA in 2024. We can sing him with cap space.
3. Brandon Ingram will enter his contact year in the summer of 2024 with no intention to sign witn NO. we can trade assets for him using picks and cap space.

[Iverson Armband]

I’m with Morey here.
I LOVE his attempt to get a star mate for Embiid while keeping Maxey.
I just think his list is a little different this time.
Jaylen Brown, Ingram, Siakam and others. Guys under 30 in prime.

I would hate a Harden trade for a meh role players from Clippers. Not a title team. Not even close. And Powell + Mann are taking away 2024 summer flexibility Morey’s talking about.

Hyland + unprotected picks + expirings is a complete different story.

Please tell me how you expect to get a Jaylen Brown, BI or Siakum with the assets we currently have. We’re not getting a bunch back for Harden in order to get one of them because nobody wants him and well… he sucks.

I agree that we shouldn’t take on the contract of Powell though. Mann is only signed for 2 more years at a very decent number, that’s not a bad contract at all that can be moved if need be. Mann, some expirings, maybe a prospect and a pick or two is fair and if Morey were to reject hoping for some godfather offer he should be fired immediately. I don’t think it’s being offered though.

1. Jaylen Brown has yet to sign a super-max extension. With Celtics. If he won’t, we can sing him as FA in 2024.
2. Pascal Siakam is a FA in 2024. We can sing him with cap space.
3. Brandon Ingram will enter his contact year in the summer of 2024 with no intention to sign witn NO. we can trade assets for him using picks and cap space.

1. JB is resigning in Boston any day now
2. I suppose this is possible, although his relationship with Nurse is shakey. We’ve also never been a destination for any big name FA ever
3. This is complete and total conjecture and not worth basing a long term plan around

[sixers4real]

Please tell me how you expect to get a Jaylen Brown, BI or Siakum with the assets we currently have. We’re not getting a bunch back for Harden in order to get one of them because nobody wants him and well… he sucks.

I agree that we shouldn’t take on the contract of Powell though. Mann is only signed for 2 more years at a very decent number, that’s not a bad contract at all that can be moved if need be. Mann, some expirings, maybe a prospect and a pick or two is fair and if Morey were to reject hoping for some godfather offer he should be fired immediately. I don’t think it’s being offered though.

1. Jaylen Brown has yet to sign a super-max extension. With Celtics. If he won’t, we can sing him as FA in 2024.
2. Pascal Siakam is a FA in 2024. We can sing him with cap space.
3. Brandon Ingram will enter his contact year in the summer of 2024 with no intention to sign witn NO. we can trade assets for him using picks and cap space.

1. JB is resigning in Boston any day now
2. I suppose this is possible, although his relationship with Nurse is shakey. We’ve also never been a destination for any big name FA ever
3. This is complete and total conjecture and not worth basing a long term plan around

Agreed.
But that’s just three players I mentioned. I would much rather star hunt then settle for Powell + meh.

[Iverson Armband]

1. Jaylen Brown has yet to sign a super-max extension. With Celtics. If he won’t, we can sing him as FA in 2024.
2. Pascal Siakam is a FA in 2024. We can sing him with cap space.
3. Brandon Ingram will enter his contact year in the summer of 2024 with no intention to sign witn NO. we can trade assets for him using picks and cap space.

1. JB is resigning in Boston any day now
2. I suppose this is possible, although his relationship with Nurse is shakey. We’ve also never been a destination for any big name FA ever
3. This is complete and total conjecture and not worth basing a long term plan around

Agreed.
But that’s just three players I mentioned. I would much rather star hunt then settle for Powell + meh.

I get it, but you need ammo to hunt.

[sixers4real]

1. JB is resigning in Boston any day now
2. I suppose this is possible, although his relationship with Nurse is shakey. We’ve also never been a destination for any big name FA ever
3. This is complete and total conjecture and not worth basing a long term plan around

Agreed.
But that’s just three players I mentioned. I would much rather star hunt then settle for Powell + meh.

I get it, but you need ammo to hunt.

2028, 2030 unprotected firsts + Hyland are a good ammo to me.

[Iverson Armband]

Mann, Hyland, Morris, rights to Kobe Brown, future FRP.

That’s not a fair return for Harden?

[sixers4real]

Mann, Hyland, Morris, rights to Kobe Brown, future FRP.

That’s not a fair return for Harden?

Is it unprotected pick?

[76ciology]

I think we need to explore letting Biid only play 40-ish games in reg season for the 24-28 games in playoffs.

Seems to me that we have enough sample size that something in his body will breakdown when he go past 65 games.

[Jailblazers7]

I think we need to explore letting Biid only play 40-ish games in reg season for the 24-28 games in playoffs.

Seems to me that we have enough sample size that something in his body will breakdown when he go past 65 games.

It wouldn't matter. The problem is that Embiid struggles to play 10 high intensity games in a row. Eventually the fatigue will build & he'll get hurt. Or he'll just get a random injury that has nothing to do with rest.

[Skates]

I think we need to explore letting Biid only play 40-ish games in reg season for the 24-28 games in playoffs.

Seems to me that we have enough sample size that something in his body will breakdown when he go past 65 games.

Well, we do have something like 17 backup centers at this point so maybe that is the plan.

[sixers4real]

I think we need to explore letting Biid only play 40-ish games in reg season for the 24-28 games in playoffs.

Seems to me that we have enough sample size that something in his body will breakdown when he go past 65 games.

No chance. It’s all about the money. That’s why Sam Hinkie is gone