Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 5

[HumbleRen]

Thinking Basketball came up with a list of their favourite prospects from the last 3 years. Really great basketball mind IMO.

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1. Victor Wembanyama - MVP ceiling
2. Evan Mobley - All NBA ceiling
3. Paolo Banchero - All NBA ceiling (If he isn't capable of being a lead offensive engine, they slot him down some spots)
4. Scoot Henderson - All NBA ceiling
5. Cade Cunningham - All Star ceiling
6. Franz Wagner - All Star ceiling
7. Jalen Williams - All Star ceiling
8. Trey Murphy the 3rd - All Star caliber
9. Scottie Barnes - (Really concerned about engagement level and attitude but are willing to write those concerns off due to how toxic the locker-room was) - All Star caliber
10. Chet Holmgren - DPOY caliber ceiling
11. Walker Kessler - All Defence ceiling (Doesn't see much growth potential in him)
12. Keegan Murray - High end Starter
13. Austin Reaves - High end Starter (They're pretty split on this)
14. Jaden Ivey - High end Starter
15. Jalen Green - (They think he has a top 5 ceiling but they're iffy on his basketball feel) High end starter to potential All NBA ceiling

[will]

How are Cade and Jalen Green on the team and Scottie is not. What exactly has Cade and Jalen done in the league that Scottie has not. At least Chet is somewhat interesting (but same idea; what has Chet done?)

I’ve only seen 5 confirmed for the select team

So still a chance he’s on it?

I promise you Scottie with his size and IQ will get the senior team more ready than Jalen Green could.

I can never take Green seriously after seeing him thrusting and pumping so furiously. SMH

[Raps in 4]

Anyone know if he’s gonna be apart of the us select team?? He’s been in the program as a teenager so gotta think he’s on the radar?

Just saw this article on Wiretap and came to post. Is he not included?

https://theathletic.com/4706806/2023/07/20/team-usa-select-team-roster/

Pretty sad if he's not

I honestly didn't even know who the Magic head coach was until I read that article. And this clown has been the coach for two seasons now, lmao.

[WaltFrazier]

Anyone know if he’s gonna be apart of the us select team?? He’s been in the program as a teenager so gotta think he’s on the radar?

Just saw this article on Wiretap and came to post. Is he not included?

https://theathletic.com/4706806/2023/07/20/team-usa-select-team-roster/

Pretty sad if he's not

I honestly didn't even know who the Magic head coach was until I read that article. And this clown has been the coach for two seasons now, lmao.

I imagine there's a selection committee not just his choice

[ArthurVandelay]

Thinking Basketball came up with a list of their favourite prospects from the last 3 years. Really great basketball mind IMO.

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1. Victor Wembanyama - MVP ceiling
2. Evan Mobley - All NBA ceiling
3. Paolo Banchero - All NBA ceiling (If he isn't capable of being a lead offensive engine, they slot him down some spots)
4. Scoot Henderson - All NBA ceiling
5. Cade Cunningham - All Star ceiling
6. Franz Wagner - All Star ceiling
7. Jalen Williams - All Star ceiling
8. Trey Murphy the 3rd - All Star caliber
9. Scottie Barnes - (Really concerned about engagement level and attitude but are willing to write those concerns off due to how toxic the locker-room was) - All Star caliber
10. Chet Holmgren - DPOY caliber ceiling
11. Walker Kessler - All Defence ceiling (Doesn't see much growth potential in him)
12. Keegan Murray - High end Starter
13. Austin Reaves - High end Starter (They're pretty split on this)
14. Jaden Ivey - High end Starter
15. Jalen Green - (They think he has a top 5 ceiling but they're iffy on his basketball feel) High end starter to potential All NBA ceiling

Banchero has a long way to go on efficiency imo. I’ve never been a fan, but I get the hype.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Got this in my email from NBA.com that leads to the interview he did two weeks ago.

Let’s goooooo

[ItsDanger]

Read on Twitter

Scottie is a big Team USA guy and won't be happy being excluded (if this list is accurate). Will give him more motivation this season to force the issue.

[AbC?]

Thinking Basketball came up with a list of their favourite prospects from the last 3 years. Really great basketball mind IMO.

]

1. Victor Wembanyama - MVP ceiling
2. Evan Mobley - All NBA ceiling
3. Paolo Banchero - All NBA ceiling (If he isn't capable of being a lead offensive engine, they slot him down some spots)
4. Scoot Henderson - All NBA ceiling
5. Cade Cunningham - All Star ceiling
6. Franz Wagner - All Star ceiling
7. Jalen Williams - All Star ceiling
8. Trey Murphy the 3rd - All Star caliber
9. Scottie Barnes - (Really concerned about engagement level and attitude but are willing to write those concerns off due to how toxic the locker-room was) - All Star caliber
10. Chet Holmgren - DPOY caliber ceiling
11. Walker Kessler - All Defence ceiling (Doesn't see much growth potential in him)
12. Keegan Murray - High end Starter
13. Austin Reaves - High end Starter (They're pretty split on this)
14. Jaden Ivey - High end Starter
15. Jalen Green - (They think he has a top 5 ceiling but they're iffy on his basketball feel) High end starter to potential All NBA ceiling

Wagner and Jalen both above Scottie, justifiably so. Got so much hate for having both of them ahead of Barnes lmao. Knew it would become self evident in time.

I would slot Chet higher and Mobley down a few slots.

[Mikistan]

Thinking Basketball came up with a list of their favourite prospects from the last 3 years. Really great basketball mind IMO.

]

1. Victor Wembanyama - MVP ceiling
2. Evan Mobley - All NBA ceiling
3. Paolo Banchero - All NBA ceiling (If he isn't capable of being a lead offensive engine, they slot him down some spots)
4. Scoot Henderson - All NBA ceiling
5. Cade Cunningham - All Star ceiling
6. Franz Wagner - All Star ceiling
7. Jalen Williams - All Star ceiling
8. Trey Murphy the 3rd - All Star caliber
9. Scottie Barnes - (Really concerned about engagement level and attitude but are willing to write those concerns off due to how toxic the locker-room was) - All Star caliber
10. Chet Holmgren - DPOY caliber ceiling
11. Walker Kessler - All Defence ceiling (Doesn't see much growth potential in him)
12. Keegan Murray - High end Starter
13. Austin Reaves - High end Starter (They're pretty split on this)
14. Jaden Ivey - High end Starter
15. Jalen Green - (They think he has a top 5 ceiling but they're iffy on his basketball feel) High end starter to potential All NBA ceiling

Wagner and Jalen both above Scottie, justifiably so. Got so much hate for having both of them ahead of Barnes lmao. Knew it would become self evident in time.

I would slot Chet higher and Mobley down a few slots.

Can't wait to revisit this "in time"

[Syd-TK3]

Mobley got the best pr in the league

[TrustFundBaby]

Mobley got the best pr in the league

Bro got sent to the shadow realm by the Knicks ELITE big man duo of Mitchell Robinson and Julius Randle

10/10 on 48% TS as a big

[MoMan24]

Mobley got the best pr in the league

Bro got sent to the shadow realm by the Knicks ELITE big man duo of Mitchell Robinson and Julius Randle

10/10 on 48% TS as a big

The way the media sucks off Mobley is actually insane. I like Mobley too but damn. Was literally a pedestrian who popped himself vs the Knicks in the playoffs and they almost game him DPOY. LMAO

[dTox]

I am a big fan of Mobley, but he has become the most overrated prospect in the league since THT when he was with the Lakers.

[Syd-TK3]

Mobley got the best pr in the league

Bro got sent to the shadow realm by the Knicks ELITE big man duo of Mitchell Robinson and Julius Randle

10/10 on 48% TS as a big

Generational defender with KG and AD mix

[HumbleRen]

Mobley got the best pr in the league

He’s definitely overrated but he still anchored a top 3 defence in the league while averaging 16 points on good efficiency as a 21 year old.

[HumbleRen]

Thinking Basketball came up with a list of their favourite prospects from the last 3 years. Really great basketball mind IMO.

]

1. Victor Wembanyama - MVP ceiling
2. Evan Mobley - All NBA ceiling
3. Paolo Banchero - All NBA ceiling (If he isn't capable of being a lead offensive engine, they slot him down some spots)
4. Scoot Henderson - All NBA ceiling
5. Cade Cunningham - All Star ceiling
6. Franz Wagner - All Star ceiling
7. Jalen Williams - All Star ceiling
8. Trey Murphy the 3rd - All Star caliber
9. Scottie Barnes - (Really concerned about engagement level and attitude but are willing to write those concerns off due to how toxic the locker-room was) - All Star caliber
10. Chet Holmgren - DPOY caliber ceiling
11. Walker Kessler - All Defence ceiling (Doesn't see much growth potential in him)
12. Keegan Murray - High end Starter
13. Austin Reaves - High end Starter (They're pretty split on this)
14. Jaden Ivey - High end Starter
15. Jalen Green - (They think he has a top 5 ceiling but they're iffy on his basketball feel) High end starter to potential All NBA ceiling

Wagner and Jalen both above Scottie, justifiably so. Got so much hate for having both of them ahead of Barnes lmao. Knew it would become self evident in time.

I would slot Chet higher and Mobley down a few slots.

Yeah, Scottie’s shooting NEEDS to come around. He’s not an all star level player without it. No ifs or buts.

[OakleyDokely]

The difference between 2-10 is pretty small.

[HiJiNX]

Thinking Basketball came up with a list of their favourite prospects from the last 3 years. Really great basketball mind IMO.

Watch on YouTube

1. Victor Wembanyama - MVP ceiling
2. Evan Mobley - All NBA ceiling
3. Paolo Banchero - All NBA ceiling (If he isn't capable of being a lead offensive engine, they slot him down some spots)
4. Scoot Henderson - All NBA ceiling
5. Cade Cunningham - All Star ceiling
6. Franz Wagner - All Star ceiling
7. Jalen Williams - All Star ceiling
8. Trey Murphy the 3rd - All Star caliber
9. Scottie Barnes - (Really concerned about engagement level and attitude but are willing to write those concerns off due to how toxic the locker-room was) - All Star caliber
10. Chet Holmgren - DPOY caliber ceiling
11. Walker Kessler - All Defence ceiling (Doesn't see much growth potential in him)
12. Keegan Murray - High end Starter
13. Austin Reaves - High end Starter (They're pretty split on this)
14. Jaden Ivey - High end Starter
15. Jalen Green - (They think he has a top 5 ceiling but they're iffy on his basketball feel) High end starter to potential All NBA ceiling

My list:

1. Victor Wembanyama - Generational/MVP
2. Scoot Henderson - Franchise player/perennial all-star
3. Scottie Barnes - (lots of developmental question marks but high high ceiling if actualized. Can either have MVP impact or become a high end role player) - Franchise player/perennial all-star
4. Cade Cunningham - Franchise player/perennial all-star (better than I thought he would be. Will be dangerous if he can keep his long range jumper consistent. Has that dog in him).
5. Evan Mobley - DPOY (I’ve never seen a big man so young play defence so well all over the court. Most versatile big man defender since KG. Shuts down the perimeter on switches. Stifles drives. Blocks jumpers and weakside finishing. Third offensive option potential. If he was more assertive offensively he’d be number 2 on this list.)
6. Paolo Banchero - All NBA ceiling (lots of talent and physical gifts. Makes it look easy. Isn’t assertive/hungry enough to score in the clutch.)
7. Jalen Williams - All NBA ceiling (does everything well and has that dog in him. Will surprise people by year 4 if not sooner)
8. Franz Wagner - All Star ceiling (has all the tools, but not sure he has a franchise player mentality. Insanely good for his age and experience)
9. Keegan Murray - All Star and second option (underrated. Super charged Michael Redd with more efficiency and IQ. Will develop playmaking chops as he gets older as he has shown flashes)
10. Trey Murphy the 3rd - All Star caliber (lethal shooter, very athletic…needs a bit more off the dribble but not sure he gets there)
11. Walker Kessler - DPOY and anchor on a contending team
12. Chet Holmgren - All defence. Only won’t be DPOY cuz of Mobley and Kessler.
13. Jalen Green - All Star (insane scoring instincts and ability but does nothing else. Needs to prove he can play within the flow of a system)
14. Austin Reaves - High end Starter (only thing holding him back is beating athletic defenders off the dribble. Great stepback game from deep, midrange pull up, and can facilitate. Better defender than he’s given credit for. Clutch and plays with fire.)
15. Jaden Ivey - High end Starter (not super high ceiling in my opinion but should be a very useful player and a starter at his position on every team that doesn’t have an all star already at his position)

[HumbleRen]

Thinking Basketball came up with a list of their favourite prospects from the last 3 years. Really great basketball mind IMO.

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1. Victor Wembanyama - MVP ceiling
2. Evan Mobley - All NBA ceiling
3. Paolo Banchero - All NBA ceiling (If he isn't capable of being a lead offensive engine, they slot him down some spots)
4. Scoot Henderson - All NBA ceiling
5. Cade Cunningham - All Star ceiling
6. Franz Wagner - All Star ceiling
7. Jalen Williams - All Star ceiling
8. Trey Murphy the 3rd - All Star caliber
9. Scottie Barnes - (Really concerned about engagement level and attitude but are willing to write those concerns off due to how toxic the locker-room was) - All Star caliber
10. Chet Holmgren - DPOY caliber ceiling
11. Walker Kessler - All Defence ceiling (Doesn't see much growth potential in him)
12. Keegan Murray - High end Starter
13. Austin Reaves - High end Starter (They're pretty split on this)
14. Jaden Ivey - High end Starter
15. Jalen Green - (They think he has a top 5 ceiling but they're iffy on his basketball feel) High end starter to potential All NBA ceiling

My list:

1. Victor Wembanyama - Generational/MVP
2. Scoot Henderson - Franchise player/perennial all-star
3. Scottie Barnes - (lots of developmental question marks but high high ceiling if actualized. Can either have MVP impact or become a high end role player) - Franchise player/perennial all-star
4. Cade Cunningham - Franchise player/perennial all-star (better than I thought he would be. Will be dangerous if he can keep his long range jumper consistent. Has that dog in him).
5. Evan Mobley - DPOY (I’ve never seen a big man so young play defence so well all over the court. Most versatile big man defender since KG. Shuts down the perimeter on switches. Stifles drives. Blocks jumpers and weakside finishing. Third offensive option potential. If he was more assertive offensively he’d be number 2 on this list.)
6. Paolo Banchero - All NBA ceiling (lots of talent and physical gifts. Makes it look easy. Isn’t assertive/hungry enough to score in the clutch.)
7. Jalen Williams - All NBA ceiling (does everything well and has that dog in him. Will surprise people by year 4 if not sooner)
8. Franz Wagner - All Star ceiling (has all the tools, but not sure he has a franchise player mentality. Insanely good for his age and experience)
9. Keegan Murray - All Star and second option (underrated. Super charged Michael Redd with more efficiency and IQ. Will develop playmaking chops as he gets older as he has shown flashes)
10. Trey Murphy the 3rd - All Star caliber (lethal shooter, very athletic…needs a bit more off the dribble but not sure he gets there)
11. Walker Kessler - DPOY and anchor on a contending team
12. Chet Holmgren - All defence. Only won’t be DPOY cuz of Mobley and Kessler.
13. Jalen Green - All Star (insane scoring instincts and ability but does nothing else. Needs to prove he can play within the flow of a system)
14. Austin Reaves - High end Starter (only thing holding him back is beating athletic defenders off the dribble. Great stepback game from deep, midrange pull up, and can facilitate. Better defender than he’s given credit for. Clutch and plays with fire.)
15. Jaden Ivey - High end Starter (not super high ceiling in my opinion but should be a very useful player and a starter at his position on every team that doesn’t have an all star already at his position)

You’re really high on these guys, wow lol.

I hope this comes to fruition cause the NBA would be in good hands lol.

[HiJiNX]

Thinking Basketball came up with a list of their favourite prospects from the last 3 years. Really great basketball mind IMO.

Watch on YouTube

1. Victor Wembanyama - MVP ceiling
2. Evan Mobley - All NBA ceiling
3. Paolo Banchero - All NBA ceiling (If he isn't capable of being a lead offensive engine, they slot him down some spots)
4. Scoot Henderson - All NBA ceiling
5. Cade Cunningham - All Star ceiling
6. Franz Wagner - All Star ceiling
7. Jalen Williams - All Star ceiling
8. Trey Murphy the 3rd - All Star caliber
9. Scottie Barnes - (Really concerned about engagement level and attitude but are willing to write those concerns off due to how toxic the locker-room was) - All Star caliber
10. Chet Holmgren - DPOY caliber ceiling
11. Walker Kessler - All Defence ceiling (Doesn't see much growth potential in him)
12. Keegan Murray - High end Starter
13. Austin Reaves - High end Starter (They're pretty split on this)
14. Jaden Ivey - High end Starter
15. Jalen Green - (They think he has a top 5 ceiling but they're iffy on his basketball feel) High end starter to potential All NBA ceiling

My list:

1. Victor Wembanyama - Generational/MVP
2. Scoot Henderson - Franchise player/perennial all-star
3. Scottie Barnes - (lots of developmental question marks but high high ceiling if actualized. Can either have MVP impact or become a high end role player) - Franchise player/perennial all-star
4. Cade Cunningham - Franchise player/perennial all-star (better than I thought he would be. Will be dangerous if he can keep his long range jumper consistent. Has that dog in him).
5. Evan Mobley - DPOY (I’ve never seen a big man so young play defence so well all over the court. Most versatile big man defender since KG. Shuts down the perimeter on switches. Stifles drives. Blocks jumpers and weakside finishing. Third offensive option potential. If he was more assertive offensively he’d be number 2 on this list.)
6. Paolo Banchero - All NBA ceiling (lots of talent and physical gifts. Makes it look easy. Isn’t assertive/hungry enough to score in the clutch.)
7. Jalen Williams - All NBA ceiling (does everything well and has that dog in him. Will surprise people by year 4 if not sooner)
8. Franz Wagner - All Star ceiling (has all the tools, but not sure he has a franchise player mentality. Insanely good for his age and experience)
9. Keegan Murray - All Star and second option (underrated. Super charged Michael Redd with more efficiency and IQ. Will develop playmaking chops as he gets older as he has shown flashes)
10. Trey Murphy the 3rd - All Star caliber (lethal shooter, very athletic…needs a bit more off the dribble but not sure he gets there)
11. Walker Kessler - DPOY and anchor on a contending team
12. Chet Holmgren - All defence. Only won’t be DPOY cuz of Mobley and Kessler.
13. Jalen Green - All Star (insane scoring instincts and ability but does nothing else. Needs to prove he can play within the flow of a system)
14. Austin Reaves - High end Starter (only thing holding him back is beating athletic defenders off the dribble. Great stepback game from deep, midrange pull up, and can facilitate. Better defender than he’s given credit for. Clutch and plays with fire.)
15. Jaden Ivey - High end Starter (not super high ceiling in my opinion but should be a very useful player and a starter at his position on every team that doesn’t have an all star already at his position)

You’re really high on these guys, wow lol.

I hope this comes to fruition cause the NBA would be in good hands lol.

It’s all relative to other talent in the league in my mind. The old guard is fading away and the new guys are coming in. None of those guys on the list have played their third season yet and I think most of them are really good. In my mind there’s a clear drop off after Kessler though.

I might end up looking like a genius or a fool in a couple years haha. But I’m confident. The obvious caveat is there are guys who aren’t in the league yet who in my opinion will move everyone after Scoot down the list. That’s to say that I think Wemby and Scoot are true superstar talents. The other guys…well we will see haha.