Trade/Free Agency Thread, whose NINE is it anyways?? 2023-24

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Also saying hauser was better in the playoffs than grant is laughable. Grant wasn’t good or anything but he still played +250 minutes where hauser only saw a 100 minutes. The sample is just too small to conclude anything about hauser. He wasn’t given a chance because joe didn’t trust him and probably rightfully so.

Just because Grant played more minutes in the playoffs, doesn't he played better in the playoffs. That's a flawed argument, imo. I suppose you think Drew Bledsoe was a better quarterback than Tom Brady during the 2000 season, because Bledsoe got more playing time. No, I'm not saying Hauser is Tom Brady - just that the logic that "more playing time means that player was better" is flawed.

Joe probably should have played Hauser more. Maybe the team wouldn't have underperformed in all 3 playoff rounds. Especially in the ECF, when our 3's weren't falling and our best shooter (Hauser) was sitting on the bench.

Small sample size or not, Hauser still had a 13.1 net rating in the playoffs, compared to -4 for Grant.

Grant got beat off the dribble by Duncan Robinson in the ECF, while Hauser more then held his own defensively against Trae Young in the 1st round.

And again, Grant is not even relevant to the discussion we were having. My whole point was that Hauser compares pretty well with the 8th man on the other top teams in the league. Grant is not an 8th man - he's probably gonna start for Dallas. So he's not even relevant to the discussion.

I have high hopes for him but going so aggressively and condescendingly after fellow posters who disagree with you is really a bad look and it sure as **** won’t convince anyone.

That's rich, coming from the poster who constantly trolls my posts with snide comments like "swing and a miss" and "Score 0 for reading comprehension"

[ddb]

Jaylen Brown deal should go down this weekend. Then Brad can get back to shaping the roster. Woj bomb tonight or tomorrow?

[zoyathedestroya]

Jaylen Brown deal should go down this weekend. Then Brad can get back to shaping the roster. Woj bomb tonight or tomorrow?

[lon3lytoaster]

Jaylen Brown deal should go down this weekend. Then Brad can get back to shaping the roster. Woj bomb tonight or tomorrow?

Fake news. **** Twitter is ruined.

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Happy for Kemba. He must have realized that at this point, he's not really an NBA caliber player anymore. I mean, he might make an NBA team but would probably just ride the bench most of the time.

Good move to sign with a team overseas. He's 33, so probably just does not want to retire quite yet. I figure he'll play 2 years overseas and then retire at 35.

And Monaco is a good team. They swept Wembanyama's team in the French league championship. Wemby was quoted saying something along the lines of he thinks Monaco would be able to even beat some NBA teams. Should be fun with Kemba and Mike James on the same team. Small backcourt but talented. They'll probably alternate but at times I can see them playing together)

There's a lot of free agents just sitting there still, with no NBA team. And not a lot of open roster spots. I wouldn't be surprised if other guys follow Kemba's lead and sign with overseas teams. Like the Hernangomez brothers - I heard they might team up and sign with the same Euro team..

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Jaylen Brown deal should go down this weekend. Then Brad can get back to shaping the roster. Woj bomb tonight or tomorrow?

I have a feeling it gets finalized this weekend. Just a hunch. Could be wrong. Not trying to "source" anything.

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Also saying hauser was better in the playoffs than grant is laughable. Grant wasn’t good or anything but he still played +250 minutes where hauser only saw a 100 minutes. The sample is just too small to conclude anything about hauser. He wasn’t given a chance because joe didn’t trust him and probably rightfully so.

Just because Grant played more minutes in the playoffs, doesn't he played better in the playoffs. That's a flawed argument, imo. I suppose you think Drew Bledsoe was a better quarterback than Tom Brady during the 2000 season, because Bledsoe got more playing time. No, I'm not saying Hauser is Tom Brady - just that the logic that "more playing time means that player was better" is flawed.

Joe probably should have played Hauser more. Maybe the team wouldn't have underperformed in all 3 playoff rounds. Especially in the ECF, when our 3's weren't falling and our best shooter (Hauser) was sitting on the bench.

Small sample size or not, Hauser still had a 13.1 net rating in the playoffs, compared to -4 for Grant.

Grant got beat off the dribble by Duncan Robinson in the ECF, while Hauser more then held his own defensively against Trae Young in the 1st round.

And again, Grant is not even relevant to the discussion we were having. My whole point was that Hauser compares pretty well with the 8th man on the other top teams in the league. Grant is not an 8th man - he's probably gonna start for Dallas. So he's not even relevant to the discussion.

I have high hopes for him but going so aggressively and condescendingly after fellow posters who disagree with you is really a bad look and it sure as **** won’t convince anyone.

That's rich, coming from the poster who constantly trolls my posts with snide comments like "swing and a miss" and "Score 0 for reading comprehension"

so you can only dish it out but not take it ? Noted.

(also if you think that benign stuff is trolling...)

And saying stuff like small sample size or not; the differential is still the same, i dont understand it. That's the point of the sample size, its so small that taking anything from it is ludicrous. It's not better than nothing, it's virtually the same as nothing. Especially when it comes to net rating stuff. Yes Grant was not good in the playoffs. Hauser might've been good, or worse. We don't know and have no way of knowing.

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[shackles10]

I swear I remember Luke talking about how corny his wife believes him to be in interviews. Not that we need another reason to think that’s a fake rumor though.

Cos it is a fake humor. Dunno if bigfoot really believed the tweet or just found it funny and had to share.

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a44601128/ariana-grande-is-reportedly-dating-wicked-costar-ethan-slater/

Well obviously it’s fake lol, but what a strange rumor to even make up for laughs. But since it’s still a “rumor” and we’ve got nothing else cooking at the moment, a quick Google search tells me she’s from Boca Raton, FL which is closer to Miami than Orlando. Kornet and filler to the Heat for Bam confirmed. Kornet will then retire and tend to Ariana’s family pets. It’s going to be really awkward when his wife reads this too.

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Ok he's here. Let's sign this contract now

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My preference for free agent wing targets on a minimum contract.

1. Danny Green
2. Hamidou Diallo
3. Lamar Stevens
4. Derrick Jones Jr
5. Javonte Green
6. Austin Rivers
7. Wes Matthews

Really not a whole lot of separation between these guys though, imo. Any of them could end up being useless, or they could end up being a really solid 8th-10th man.

It moreso comes down to which one actually wants to be here, who is willing to accept the money and role that we can offer.

Oubre would probably be #1, but just thinking realistically he will probably sign with a different team that can offer more money and/or more minutes.

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My preference for free agent wing targets on a minimum contract.

1. Danny Green
2. Hamidou Diallo
3. Lamar Stevens
4. Derrick Jones Jr
5. Javonte Green
6. Austin Rivers
7. Wes Matthews

Really not a whole lot of separation between these guys though, imo. Any of them could end up being useless, or they could end up being a really solid 8th-10th man.

It moreso comes down to which one actually wants to be here, who is willing to accept the money and role that we can offer.

Oubre would probably be #1, but just thinking realistically he will probably sign with a different team that can offer more money and/or more minutes.

Scratch Matthews:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/272566/Wesley-Matthews-Hawks-Agree-To-One-Year-Deal

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"Spoke about how it is a privilege to play for a winning organization & looks at next season as an opportunity to get better with his teamates."

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[bisme37]

I'm glad they aren't trying to dump Brogdon. Made no sense to me. He's really good.

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[ThePigeon]

Dominick Barlow for the 3rd two-way
had a very good summer league with the Wizards

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Dominick Barlow for the 3rd two-way
had a very good summer league with the Wizards

He was on spurs summer league team. So not sure if you mean someone else who was on the wizards summer league team.

But yeah, Barlow is my top choice for our 3rd 2-way spot. I figure he'll resign with the spurs. He was on a 2-way with them last year. I figure they'll either put him on a 2-way again, or give him a standard contract. If they don't offer him either, I figure he'll have like 5 or 10 teams calling him up, offering him a 2-way - or possibly a standard roster spot. So it would be competitive and he might not choose the Celtics. But we can hope..

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Also saying hauser was better in the playoffs than grant is laughable. Grant wasn’t good or anything but he still played +250 minutes where hauser only saw a 100 minutes. The sample is just too small to conclude anything about hauser. He wasn’t given a chance because joe didn’t trust him and probably rightfully so.

Just because Grant played more minutes in the playoffs, doesn't he played better in the playoffs. That's a flawed argument, imo. I suppose you think Drew Bledsoe was a better quarterback than Tom Brady during the 2000 season, because Bledsoe got more playing time. No, I'm not saying Hauser is Tom Brady - just that the logic that "more playing time means that player was better" is flawed.

Joe probably should have played Hauser more. Maybe the team wouldn't have underperformed in all 3 playoff rounds. Especially in the ECF, when our 3's weren't falling and our best shooter (Hauser) was sitting on the bench.

Small sample size or not, Hauser still had a 13.1 net rating in the playoffs, compared to -4 for Grant.

Grant got beat off the dribble by Duncan Robinson in the ECF, while Hauser more then held his own defensively against Trae Young in the 1st round.

And again, Grant is not even relevant to the discussion we were having. My whole point was that Hauser compares pretty well with the 8th man on the other top teams in the league. Grant is not an 8th man - he's probably gonna start for Dallas. So he's not even relevant to the discussion.

I have high hopes for him but going so aggressively and condescendingly after fellow posters who disagree with you is really a bad look and it sure as **** won’t convince anyone.

That's rich, coming from the poster who constantly trolls my posts with snide comments like "swing and a miss" and "Score 0 for reading comprehension"

so you can only dish it out but not take it ? Noted.

(also if you think that benign stuff is trolling...)

And saying stuff like small sample size or not; the differential is still the same, i dont understand it. That's the point of the sample size, its so small that taking anything from it is ludicrous. It's not better than nothing, it's virtually the same as nothing. Especially when it comes to net rating stuff. Yes Grant was not good in the playoffs. Hauser might've been good, or worse. We don't know and have no way of knowing.

"You can dish it out but not take it" seriously dude? What is this, a middle school cafeteria? Next you'll probably say that you're gonna stuff me in a locker. I was hoping the sh&t talking and trolling was gonna end when those 2 other guys got banned. I'm just tryin to talk basketball.

And so, I guess we agree then. Based on the data and sample sizes, we can't conclude definitively that Hauser was better during the playoffs, but we also can't conclude that Grant was better. And that was really my only point - because other posters here were claiming that Grant was way better in the playoffs, so I guess we agree that is not the case.

Moving on...

[steefP2]

Just because Grant played more minutes in the playoffs, doesn't he played better in the playoffs. That's a flawed argument, imo. I suppose you think Drew Bledsoe was a better quarterback than Tom Brady during the 2000 season, because Bledsoe got more playing time. No, I'm not saying Hauser is Tom Brady - just that the logic that "more playing time means that player was better" is flawed.

Joe probably should have played Hauser more. Maybe the team wouldn't have underperformed in all 3 playoff rounds. Especially in the ECF, when our 3's weren't falling and our best shooter (Hauser) was sitting on the bench.

Small sample size or not, Hauser still had a 13.1 net rating in the playoffs, compared to -4 for Grant.

Grant got beat off the dribble by Duncan Robinson in the ECF, while Hauser more then held his own defensively against Trae Young in the 1st round.

And again, Grant is not even relevant to the discussion we were having. My whole point was that Hauser compares pretty well with the 8th man on the other top teams in the league. Grant is not an 8th man - he's probably gonna start for Dallas. So he's not even relevant to the discussion.


That's rich, coming from the poster who constantly trolls my posts with snide comments like "swing and a miss" and "Score 0 for reading comprehension"

so you can only dish it out but not take it ? Noted.

(also if you think that benign stuff is trolling...)

And saying stuff like small sample size or not; the differential is still the same, i dont understand it. That's the point of the sample size, its so small that taking anything from it is ludicrous. It's not better than nothing, it's virtually the same as nothing. Especially when it comes to net rating stuff. Yes Grant was not good in the playoffs. Hauser might've been good, or worse. We don't know and have no way of knowing.

"You can dish it out but not take it" seriously dude? What is this, a middle school cafeteria? I was hoping the sh&t talking and trolling was gonna end when those 2 other guys got banned. I'm just tryin to talk basketball.

And so, I guess we agree then. Based on the data and sample sizes, we can't conclude definitively that Hauser was better during the playoffs, but we also can't conclude that Grant was better. And that was really my only point - because other posters here were claiming that Grant was way better in the playoffs, so I guess we agree that is not the case.

Moving on...

You constantly browbeat other posters when thru disagree with you with long condescending and overly passive aggressive posts. Then when folks rebut you; you ignore the valid points and focus on some small peripheral issue you think you can win points on.

I call this stuff out because i think it’s bad for the board and I like this board. There’s a reason I only feel the need with many of your posts.

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Ok he's here. Let's sign this contract now

Plot twist: The court design will be the team he’s playing for next season.

[shackles10]

Just because Grant played more minutes in the playoffs, doesn't he played better in the playoffs. That's a flawed argument, imo. I suppose you think Drew Bledsoe was a better quarterback than Tom Brady during the 2000 season, because Bledsoe got more playing time. No, I'm not saying Hauser is Tom Brady - just that the logic that "more playing time means that player was better" is flawed.

Joe probably should have played Hauser more. Maybe the team wouldn't have underperformed in all 3 playoff rounds. Especially in the ECF, when our 3's weren't falling and our best shooter (Hauser) was sitting on the bench.

Small sample size or not, Hauser still had a 13.1 net rating in the playoffs, compared to -4 for Grant.

Grant got beat off the dribble by Duncan Robinson in the ECF, while Hauser more then held his own defensively against Trae Young in the 1st round.

And again, Grant is not even relevant to the discussion we were having. My whole point was that Hauser compares pretty well with the 8th man on the other top teams in the league. Grant is not an 8th man - he's probably gonna start for Dallas. So he's not even relevant to the discussion.


That's rich, coming from the poster who constantly trolls my posts with snide comments like "swing and a miss" and "Score 0 for reading comprehension"

so you can only dish it out but not take it ? Noted.

(also if you think that benign stuff is trolling...)

And saying stuff like small sample size or not; the differential is still the same, i dont understand it. That's the point of the sample size, its so small that taking anything from it is ludicrous. It's not better than nothing, it's virtually the same as nothing. Especially when it comes to net rating stuff. Yes Grant was not good in the playoffs. Hauser might've been good, or worse. We don't know and have no way of knowing.

"You can dish it out but not take it" seriously dude? What is this, a middle school cafeteria? I was hoping the sh&t talking and trolling was gonna end when those 2 other guys got banned. I'm just tryin to talk basketball.

And so, I guess we agree then. Based on the data and sample sizes, we can't conclude definitively that Hauser was better during the playoffs, but we also can't conclude that Grant was better. And that was really my only point - because other posters here were claiming that Grant was way better in the playoffs, so I guess we agree that is not the case.

Moving on...

"Moving on" is probably the best idea here. Look we don't all have to agree obviously, but we also don't have to take offense or make it personal when we don't agree either. Back and forth discussion is good for the board, but let's keep it at least close to discussion levels and not beyond. Let's also not avoid the language filter to nitpick and do my mod-ly duties. No reason to bring up "those other 2" either as you know it's a divisive topic and not relevant to a trade/free agency thread.