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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, whose NINE is it anyways?? 2023-24 

Post#1641 » by chrisab123 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:53 pm

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Hal14 wrote:To give some perspective to the folks who are anti-Hauser or think we need to acquire a better 8th man:

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-If you think some other guy is the 8th man for a team instead of the guy I put, that's not really the point of this. It's just to give a rough idea of how Hauser stacks up compared to the other 8th men out there. Let's not over-analyze it. If you think some other guy is the 8th man for a team besides the guy I put, chances are they aren't much better than the guy I listed so saying that is pointless.

-IMO, there is not a single player on this list who I would say will clearly, no question about it be a better player than Hauser this season. I feel like pretty much all of these guys are in the same ballpark, give or take. Except maybe Peyton Watson - Denver really needs him to take a leap this season (or hope that someone else steps up as an 8th man). But more likely, I think denver will add another player before the season starts, cause at the moment their bench is pretty weak.

-I'm pretty sure that if I added TS%, Net Rating, BPM and some other advanced stats to this, Hauser would look even better compared to these other guys.

-Also keep in mind Hauser is still just 25, still getting better. Only 2 years in the NBA so far..and only 1 season where he got rotation minutes. He made a big leap in year 2 last season (especially defensively), and he's likely to make another leap this season in year 3

Well for starters that list is flawed I checked just the Denver list it's not Peyton Watson it's Jeff green 8th mpg avg 7.8ppg also your grizzlies was wrong too it's not konchar it's t Jones 8th mpg avg 10.3ppg which leads me to believe this list is bunk but I'd rather have everyone on that list except the two that shouldn't be in the list. I stop checking after that false list came up two names ( probably more) also it's not playoffs list either so this list busted


Jae Crowder won't be the 8th man for the Bucks. He's either going to start or he's going to sit out again. We already saw this play out last year. Dude has a very inflated ego.
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Post#1643 » by Floody100 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:05 pm

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Happy for Kemba. He must have realized that at this point, he's not really an NBA caliber player anymore. I mean, he might make an NBA team but would probably just ride the bench most of the time.

Good move to sign with a team overseas. He's 33, so probably just does not want to retire quite yet. I figure he'll play 2 years overseas and then retire at 35.

And Monaco is a good team. They swept Wembanyama's team in the French league championship. Wemby was quoted saying something along the lines of he thinks Monaco would be able to even beat some NBA teams. Should be fun with Kemba and Mike James on the same team. Small backcourt but talented. They'll probably alternate but at times I can see them playing together)

There's a lot of free agents just sitting there still, with no NBA team. And not a lot of open roster spots. I wouldn't be surprised if other guys follow Kemba's lead and sign with overseas teams. Like the Hernangomez brothers - I heard they might team up and sign with the same Euro team..


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Post#1646 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:33 pm

For example, there is Jaylen Brown of the Boston Celtics. As of today he would be a free agent next summer because talks on his supermax contract extension have dragged out. However, every source I spoke with about this in Las Vegas at Summer League said the deal would get done, the sides are just negotiating a player option in the final year and trade kicker, not the core of the deal.

https://sports.yahoo.com/seven-2024-potential-nba-free-163753908.html

Trade kickers and player options for weeks
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Post#1647 » by BK_2020 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:42 pm

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For example, there is Jaylen Brown of the Boston Celtics. As of today he would be a free agent next summer because talks on his supermax contract extension have dragged out. However, every source I spoke with about this in Las Vegas at Summer League said the deal would get done, the sides are just negotiating a player option in the final year and trade kicker, not the core of the deal.

https://sports.yahoo.com/seven-2024-potential-nba-free-163753908.html

Trade kickers and player options for weeks

"hey give me trade kicker and player option." "No."
Repeat for 5 weeks.
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Post#1648 » by bisme37 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:45 pm

I'm excited for when JB finally signs his contract and all the same people on the GB who've been ripping the Celtics because JB hasn't signed his contract start ripping the Celtics for giving him that contract.
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Post#1649 » by snowman » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:16 pm

I said three weeks ago that the little details of the supermax were what would hold up the signing. Then once it's signed, all those who are saying "trade him" will complain about the numbers. Brad is not going to put out a contract that will cripple the team over the entire length of the contract. Brown will sign soon, and way before training camp starts and all will be sunshine and lollipops in Celtic land because of it.
Having a starting lineup of:
White, Brown, Tatum, RW3, Porzingis
is one of the best starting lineups, and I would even say top 2 in the league, only to the Suns at this point.

Certainly, our bench is not finished, because one thing, we are under the minimum number of players signed, and we still need a piece or two. Brad will take care of that too.

Brogdon and Horford, as our vets, will keep the 2nd team of Pritchard, Hauser, Banton, Walsh, Brissette and Kornet focused. That is 13 roster spots, so I do see one, maybe two more signings. I don't see a trade coming, unless it is a player coming in for a 2nd round pick or two. I would like to see another big for more injury insurance than just Kornet. I could live with Griffin back but would like to see a younger project big to work with. I also have no faith in Davison this season, so would like to see an additional vet point guard signed. Scrubb will possibly get some time with the big club, so I don't see the need for another wing. I could see Brad signing Blake and John Wall as injury insurance but could just as much see him signing Balcerowski or Azubuike from our summer league team as our 5th big and picking up a point guard off of another team during training camp. Who knows with Brad, but I do feel that another small move / addition will be made before the season starts.
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Post#1650 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:43 pm

Ayo Dosunmo resigned with the Bulls. 3 yrs, $21 mil.

That's the type of contract that Pritchard is gonna want eventually, but I doubt we give it to him..
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Post#1651 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:46 pm

Hal14 wrote:Ayo Dosunmo resigned with the Bulls. 3 yrs, $21 mil.

That's the type of contract that Pritchard is gonna want eventually, but I doubt we give it to him..

That’s the type of contract Pritchard will get when Brogdon is moved. People don’t really believe Brogdon won’t be moved? Do they really?
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Post#1652 » by ryan in Maine » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:55 pm

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Post#1653 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:58 pm

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Post#1654 » by BK_2020 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:59 pm

Ah yes, Red Bull, the company that targets children and misleads them into believing that drinking highly caffeinated and high sugar beverage will make them more energetic, active, cool and accepted by friends.
More than 3 times the caffeine content as a can of coke, causing insomnia, anxiety, and other health problems. Just as much sugar.
Way to contribute to the systemic obesity and health problems, Jaylen. I hope you enjoy your small amount of endorsement money that you got in exchange for ruining the futures of mostly children of color.
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Post#1655 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:04 pm

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Hal14 wrote:Ayo Dosunmo resigned with the Bulls. 3 yrs, $21 mil.

That's the type of contract that Pritchard is gonna want eventually, but I doubt we give it to him..

That’s the type of contract Pritchard will get when Brogdon is moved. People don’t really believe Brogdon won’t be moved? Do they really?

I don't think Brad would feel comfortable with Pritchard as the 1st guard off the bench for a title contending team. Everything that has happened since Brad took over as GM tells us otherwise:

-Signed Schroder to be the first guard off the bench, so that we didn't have to go with Pritchard in that spot
-Traded Schroder but got White - better player on a more expensive, longer term contract
-Moving Schroder + J-rich and adding White did leave us with less depth, so Pritchard was our 8th man during the 2022 playoff run. But Pritchard struggled with defense and shooting consistency during that playoff run. So as soon as the season ended, Brad traded for Brogdon, pushing Pritchard deeper into the bench.
-Brad drafts a PG, JD Davison
-Pritchard rides the bench for most of the 22-23 season, and Pritchard asks for a trade
-Still no contract extension for pritchard and not even much in terms if rumors that an extension will happen

Reports yesterday said Brogdon isn't going anywhere. He still has 2 yrs left on his deal.

If that does change and Brogdon is moved, I'd assume that Brad would acquire another guard (either in thats ame trade or in a different move) who is better than Pritchard.

There's nothing that has happened that has indicated Brad sees Pritchard as a long term piece here, or as someone he thinks can handle more playing time. Everything that has happened tells us the opposite.

We had a logjam in the backcourt (and were thin in the frontcourt) so we flipped Smart for Porzingis. Problem solved. No longer a need to trade Brogdon.

Only reason there would be to trade him is if you feel like $22.5 mil is too much for a guy who comes off the bench and only plays half the game (plus has injury concerns) so you could possibly take that salary and make some moves to turn it into 2 good players (whose salaries add up to $22 mil or possibly less)..

Brad possibly explored those types of trades but based on the reports, it seems like there wasn't good value out there - he could find a deal that made sense.

So it seems like Brogdon is staying, which is fine by me. He's a good player who could certainly help us win a championship.
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Post#1656 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:05 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Ah yes, Red Bull, the company that targets children and misleads them into believing that drinking highly caffeinated and high sugar beverage will make them more energetic, active, cool and accepted by friends.
More than 3 times the caffeine content as a can of coke, causing insomnia, anxiety, and other health problems. Just as much sugar.
Way to contribute to the systemic obesity and health problems, Jaylen. I hope you enjoy your small amount of endorsement money that you got in exchange for ruining the futures of mostly children of color.


What do you, work for Pepsi?
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Post#1657 » by OldCeltics » Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:06 pm

Hopefully they get Brown for around 25 million. He's not worth any more than that.
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Post#1658 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:07 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Ah yes, Red Bull, the company that targets children and misleads them into believing that drinking highly caffeinated and high sugar beverage will make them more energetic, active, cool and accepted by friends.
More than 3 times the caffeine content as a can of coke, causing insomnia, anxiety, and other health problems. Just as much sugar.
Way to contribute to the systemic obesity and health problems, Jaylen. I hope you enjoy your small amount of endorsement money that you got in exchange for ruining the futures of mostly children of color.


What do you, work for Pepsi?

Jaylen Brown slander organization - the JBSO
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Post#1659 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:11 pm

snowman wrote:I said three weeks ago that the little details of the supermax were what would hold up the signing. Then once it's signed, all those who are saying "trade him" will complain about the numbers. Brad is not going to put out a contract that will cripple the team over the entire length of the contract. Brown will sign soon, and way before training camp starts and all will be sunshine and lollipops in Celtic land because of it.
Having a starting lineup of:
White, Brown, Tatum, RW3, Porzingis
is one of the best starting lineups, and I would even say top 2 in the league, only to the Suns at this point.

Certainly, our bench is not finished, because one thing, we are under the minimum number of players signed, and we still need a piece or two. Brad will take care of that too.


I'm actually intrigued by Brissett and Banton as roleplayers.. I've been fine with Kornet all along as a regular-season player. Walsh should be ok, too.

And every contender other than Denver has question marks and injury/longevity risks - what if Durant gets hurt again? Brook Lopez is getting older.

But I am nervous about Rob, Al, Malcolm and Latvia. Worst case: all four struggle with injuries, Jays and Porzingis don't mesh, and White's shooting goes back to his career avg. The last two can't be avoided but the first is personnel.
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Post#1660 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:11 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Ah yes, Red Bull, the company that targets children and misleads them into believing that drinking highly caffeinated and high sugar beverage will make them more energetic, active, cool and accepted by friends.
More than 3 times the caffeine content as a can of coke, causing insomnia, anxiety, and other health problems. Just as much sugar.
Way to contribute to the systemic obesity and health problems, Jaylen. I hope you enjoy your small amount of endorsement money that you got in exchange for ruining the futures of mostly children of color.


What do you, work for Pepsi?

Jaylen Brown slander organization - the JBSO


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