Free Agency & Trades Rumours Thread 3

[OakleyDokely]

If you truly believe having grown up around the game as the son of a 5 time champion really makes zero difference then you literally have no clue.

Agree to disagree if you feel otherwise.

Doesn't matter if you don't have the talent. And you should know that. I have literally no clue? Another absurd take.

You’ve lost me.

His g-league stats from last year clearly indicate he has talent that’s worth further developing. His background and make-up make it even clearer that he’s worth continuing with.

I’m over you dude. Agree to disagree.

Not to mention, I think it was Will Lou who said that he's a great vibes guy. He's very positive and he's well liked by his teammates. That counts for something as well, especially when building a gleague culture.

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Doesn't matter if you don't have the talent. And you should know that. I have literally no clue? Another absurd take.

You’ve lost me.

His g-league stats from last year clearly indicate he has talent that’s worth further developing. His background and make-up make it even clearer that he’s worth continuing with.

I’m over you dude. Agree to disagree.

Not to mention, I think it was Will Lou who said that he's a great vibes guy. He's very positive and he's well liked by his teammates. That counts for something as well, especially when building a gleague culture.

he looked useless in summer league and i really have to think this new deal was the result of his g league numbers last year. Its a two way contract .... Lets all just chill lol

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Really?

You think Masai can magically make teams trade players to us?

Or that a pg that shot 31% from three last year is going to solve our problems.

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[YogurtProducer]

I see absolutely nothing with Harper Jr. Bringing him back just tells you how far our development program has fallen.

And why should we care what you see? Are you a scout or in player development or something?

Kid grew up around the game and has winning genes. Sr. won 5 ‘ships in 6 years. His genes alone make this a good signing.

Anything else is just a pessimistic and lazy take.

Reminder that most rookies, especially those not taken in the lottery, do nothing as rookies.

FVV averaged 3/1/1 on 35 % from the field as a rook.
Siakam averaged 4/3/0 on 50% shooting
Poeltl averaged 3/3
Wright averaged 4/1/1

Generally speaking, lower drafted/UDFA's don't become useable until their 2nd or 3rd season.

[Tor_Raps]

I see absolutely nothing with Harper Jr. Bringing him back just tells you how far our development program has fallen.

And why should we care what you see? Are you a scout or in player development or something?

Kid grew up around the game and has winning genes. Sr. won 5 ‘ships in 6 years. His genes alone make this a good signing.

Anything else is just a pessimistic and lazy take.

Reminder that most rookies, especially those not taken in the lottery, do nothing as rookies.

FVV averaged 3/1/1 on 35 % from the field as a rook.
Siakam averaged 4/3/0 on 50% shooting
Poeltl averaged 3/3
Wright averaged 4/1/1

Generally speaking, lower drafted/UDFA's don't become useable until their 2nd or 3rd season.

Understood but most of those guys dominated the G League when sent down there. Banton did that + showed random flashes with the big squad so I can see a case for him.

Not saying it's impossible for Harper since players can always make a huge jump from one season to the next, I just haven't seen anything that leads me to believe that.

[YogurtProducer]

And why should we care what you see? Are you a scout or in player development or something?

Kid grew up around the game and has winning genes. Sr. won 5 ‘ships in 6 years. His genes alone make this a good signing.

Anything else is just a pessimistic and lazy take.

Reminder that most rookies, especially those not taken in the lottery, do nothing as rookies.

FVV averaged 3/1/1 on 35 % from the field as a rook.
Siakam averaged 4/3/0 on 50% shooting
Poeltl averaged 3/3
Wright averaged 4/1/1

Generally speaking, lower drafted/UDFA's don't become useable until their 2nd or 3rd season.

Understood but most of those guys dominated the G League when sent down there. Banton did that + showed random flashes with the big squad so I can see a case for him.

Not saying it's impossible for Harper since players can always make a huge jump from one season to the next, I just haven't seen anything that leads me to believe that.

G-League Stats

Harper Jr - 17/5/4 - 50/37/78 splits
FVV - 17/8/3 - 40/40/84 splits
Siakam - 18/9/3 - 55/50/65 splits
Wright - 16/5/6 - 51/31/80 splits
Poeltl - 16/13 - 56% shooting (2 games)

Banton - 20/7/5 - 46/29/73 splits

I would not say those guys dominated any more than how Harper performed. Jakob was way to good for the G-League from the jump, and Siakam went down late after starting half a season of NBA games.

Banton I think has inflated G-League stats as in the G-League non-shooters can perform a lot better but those types of archetypes do not translate to the NBA as well.

[Tor_Raps]

Reminder that most rookies, especially those not taken in the lottery, do nothing as rookies.

FVV averaged 3/1/1 on 35 % from the field as a rook.
Siakam averaged 4/3/0 on 50% shooting
Poeltl averaged 3/3
Wright averaged 4/1/1

Generally speaking, lower drafted/UDFA's don't become useable until their 2nd or 3rd season.

Understood but most of those guys dominated the G League when sent down there. Banton did that + showed random flashes with the big squad so I can see a case for him.

Not saying it's impossible for Harper since players can always make a huge jump from one season to the next, I just haven't seen anything that leads me to believe that.

G-League Stats

Harper Jr - 17/5/4 - 50/37/78 splits
FVV - 17/8/3 - 40/40/84 splits
Siakam - 18/9/3 - 55/50/65 splits
Wright - 16/5/6 - 51/31/80 splits
Poeltl - 16/13 - 56% shooting (2 games)

Banton - 20/7/5 - 46/29/73 splits

I would not say those guys dominated any more than how Harper performed. Jakob was way to good for the G-League from the jump, and Siakam went down late after starting half a season of NBA games.

Banton I think has inflated G-League stats as in the G-League non-shooters can perform a lot better but those types of archetypes do not translate to the NBA as well.

Ya it's just the skillset of Harper that doesn't make me think he can do anything at an elite level in the nba but it's premature to stick with that stance. Let's see how his development unfolds.

[DreamTeam09]

Understood but most of those guys dominated the G League when sent down there. Banton did that + showed random flashes with the big squad so I can see a case for him.

Not saying it's impossible for Harper since players can always make a huge jump from one season to the next, I just haven't seen anything that leads me to believe that.

G-League Stats

Harper Jr - 17/5/4 - 50/37/78 splits
FVV - 17/8/3 - 40/40/84 splits
Siakam - 18/9/3 - 55/50/65 splits
Wright - 16/5/6 - 51/31/80 splits
Poeltl - 16/13 - 56% shooting (2 games)

Banton - 20/7/5 - 46/29/73 splits

I would not say those guys dominated any more than how Harper performed. Jakob was way to good for the G-League from the jump, and Siakam went down late after starting half a season of NBA games.

Banton I think has inflated G-League stats as in the G-League non-shooters can perform a lot better but those types of archetypes do not translate to the NBA as well.

Ya it's just the skillset of Harper that doesn't make me think he can do anything at an elite level in the nba but it's premature to stick with that stance. Let's see how his development unfolds.

He was almost a 50% 40% 80% player, that warrants some further look into development. He could be a serviceable 3+D backup sooner rather than later, with his long armz he's able to attack the rim & closeouts off the dribble.

[Tor_Raps]

G-League Stats

Harper Jr - 17/5/4 - 50/37/78 splits
FVV - 17/8/3 - 40/40/84 splits
Siakam - 18/9/3 - 55/50/65 splits
Wright - 16/5/6 - 51/31/80 splits
Poeltl - 16/13 - 56% shooting (2 games)

Banton - 20/7/5 - 46/29/73 splits

I would not say those guys dominated any more than how Harper performed. Jakob was way to good for the G-League from the jump, and Siakam went down late after starting half a season of NBA games.

Banton I think has inflated G-League stats as in the G-League non-shooters can perform a lot better but those types of archetypes do not translate to the NBA as well.

Ya it's just the skillset of Harper that doesn't make me think he can do anything at an elite level in the nba but it's premature to stick with that stance. Let's see how his development unfolds.

He was almost a 50% 40% 80% player, that warrants some further look into development. He could be a serviceable 3+D backup sooner rather than later, with his long armz he's able to attack the rim & closeouts off the dribble.

For sure... I'd happily eat crow here. Always easier to judge a player after they get an entire offseason to work on their craft.

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[JB7]

someone take Herro from them my god

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Ya, that trade makes sense. Miami's rotation is then Bam, Herro, 33yr old Butler, 33yr old Dame, broke down 28 yr old Nurkic (may as well be 33), 34 yr old Love, 29 yr old Richardson, and then other scraps.

Now if that is not a championship contender, I don't know what is

[ItsDanger]

I see absolutely nothing with Harper Jr. Bringing him back just tells you how far our development program has fallen.

And why should we care what you see? Are you a scout or in player development or something?

Kid grew up around the game and has winning genes. Sr. won 5 ‘ships in 6 years. His genes alone make this a good signing.

Anything else is just a pessimistic and lazy take.

Reminder that most rookies, especially those not taken in the lottery, do nothing as rookies.

FVV averaged 3/1/1 on 35 % from the field as a rook.
Siakam averaged 4/3/0 on 50% shooting
Poeltl averaged 3/3
Wright averaged 4/1/1

Generally speaking, lower drafted/UDFA's don't become useable until their 2nd or 3rd season.

Now list all the busts. A lot of them never become useable let alone by 2nd or 3rd years.

[YogurtProducer]

And why should we care what you see? Are you a scout or in player development or something?

Kid grew up around the game and has winning genes. Sr. won 5 ‘ships in 6 years. His genes alone make this a good signing.

Anything else is just a pessimistic and lazy take.

Reminder that most rookies, especially those not taken in the lottery, do nothing as rookies.

FVV averaged 3/1/1 on 35 % from the field as a rook.
Siakam averaged 4/3/0 on 50% shooting
Poeltl averaged 3/3
Wright averaged 4/1/1

Generally speaking, lower drafted/UDFA's don't become useable until their 2nd or 3rd season.

Now list all the busts. A lot of them never become useable let alone by 2nd or 3rd years.

Ok?

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See this is what I’m talking about.

I told my wife to a do few things that my ex used to do in bed, and she snapped on me.

[DreamTeam09]

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Ya, that trade makes sense. Miami's rotation is then Bam, Herro, 33yr old Butler, 33yr old Dame, broke down 28 yr old Nurkic (may as well be 33), 34 yr old Love, 29 yr old Richardson, and then other scraps.

Now if that is not a championship contender, I don't know what is

That is a poopoo platter if I've ever seen one.

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