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Re: Mbappe Offered 1 Year/1.1 Billion 

Post#41 » by G R E Y » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:03 am

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G R E Y wrote:Why don't they put these giant mounds of money into development of their own leagues? Of their own grassroots programs and build up?

There's distasteful element to this that everyone can be bought and the actual product on the field is a spectacle rather than competitive sport, more like look what we can get for our money.

How does this help Mbape from a competitive standpoint when he'd be clearly even more levels above the opponents?

Iron sharpens iron and he'd dull his instrument when not as well tested. Or he could risk injury and never get to play for Real Madrid or be a lesser version than his prime.

From Mbape's POV as well, how much money does one really need? He's set for multiple lifetimes already. So it's actually less tempting to deviate from the integrity of the game. This isn't a cross to bear of having to feed the family vs. compromising values.

And finally, how much to sweep atrocious human rights - read: women's rights, worker treatment - under the rug?

It's a loaded statement whatever he decides.


The one year term is a test case I think for what future lure adjustments could be made but of course it's a ton of money so that one side makes the big change, not the other. Just depends on where and what one's boundaries are that can't be crossed.


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Well Mbape isn't American and frankly doesn't need the money.

Besides some American athletes have already turned down crazy money.
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Re: Mbappe Offered 1 Year/1.1 Billion 

Post#42 » by jordanwilliams6 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:03 am

I've always wondered how rich can one person get. I mean LeBron would have all the money in the world to do whatever he pleased for the rest of his life (I guess a billion could help him purchase an NBA team). Is it just an ego thing for these guys?
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Re: Mbappe Offered 1 Year/1.1 Billion 

Post#43 » by drekwins » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:07 am

jordanwilliams6 wrote:I've always wondered how rich can one person get. I mean LeBron would have all the money in the world to do whatever he pleased for the rest of his life (I guess a billion could help him purchase an NBA team). Is it just an ego thing for these guys?


There is definitely levels to money and to be completely frank, it is a monumental upward mobility opportunity. To gain such influence in the Western World for a sect of citizens that have never had such an opportunity ever. Here's a stat:

here are 2,755 billionaires in a world with over seven billion people, according to Forbes. But only 14 are Black with eight of them being African Americans.

To have that kind of wealth is bigger than just ego. It changes the entire community...forever. The seeds to billionaire fortunes, for most billionaires, were planted long, long, long ago, in sketchy ways. Some may see it as not only a right, but a responsibility, for these athletes to take advantage of.
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Post#44 » by Adelheid » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:10 am

oil money is really increadible
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Re: Mbappe Offered 1 Year/1.1 Billion 

Post#46 » by Tracymcgoaty » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:16 am

People gotta understand that a lot of players Saudi league have signed wouldn't ever sniff this kind of money in europe.

For example Savic and Mitrovic are really good players but they'll never make star level money as long as they are in Europe.

believe Mitrovic makes like 3M£ a year. He goes to Saudi and they're offering him like triple that or something i think. Of course he's going to go there. Same with Savic. They're making superstar level money and im happy for them. Moreso happy for football because Saudi for the longest time have been ridiculed as the retirement league. If they keep signing all these really good players which im sure they will. the league will get so much better. People will actually start watching for real. I know i am.
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Post#47 » by One_and_Done » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:18 am

The NBA is in no danger because unlike golf it's a team sport. There are alot of people who talk about players rights and how 'they're who the fans are paying to see', but they're wrong. Even in today's era of player empowerment, the fans mostly follow teams. If you want to see proof just look at the NCAA. The product sucks relative to the Euroleague or even the Gleague. The players are rotated out every year or so. Fans don't care. They still root for the team in their fandom, and generate the tournament over a billion dollars a year.

If all the NBA players died from a virus tomorrow it would hurt the bottom line; in the short term. In the longer term fans would find new players to love from the replacement players who filled their spots. Before long many would insist these guys were just as good as many previous stars. Look at all the old timie fans who genuinely think the guys from the 60s could be stars today. Look at the Kobe fans who genuinely think he's better than Lebron, even with all the video and statistical and results based evidence that he clearly is not.

The current players only have brand value because the league has made them their poster boys, but if they all retired tomorrow the league would just find new poster boys. It takes a long time to build a brand.
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Post#48 » by Dacost » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:20 am

I don't see this working in the long term but for this is insane.

The only way the Saudis make this work is if their own leagues and players become at the very least average and right they are the worst.
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Post#49 » by G R E Y » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:25 am

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Post#50 » by OxAndFox » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:29 am

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drekwins wrote:Do you think the NBAs future is at risk of the Kingdom deciding to purge athletics? Mbappe is now making equal to the top 26 NBA players COMBINED for the upcoming season. I see major issues, especially with so many of todays stars being foreign-born. Imagine if they were to offer Giannis a franchise with a home stadium in Greece. Luka with a home stadium in Slovenia. Jokic with a stadium in Serbia. Wemby with a home stadium in France, etc. A franchise in Dubai... it would have to be attractive.

Of course, this is all speculation but I absolutely think that Mbappe's contract is going to make owners and commissioners in American sports very nervous.

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Re: Mbappe Offered 1 Year/1.1 Billion 

Post#51 » by Ambrose » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:30 am

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G R E Y wrote:Why don't they put these giant mounds of money into development of their own leagues? Of their own grassroots programs and build up?

There's distasteful element to this that everyone can be bought and the actual product on the field is a spectacle rather than competitive sport, more like look what we can get for our money.

How does this help Mbape from a competitive standpoint when he'd be clearly even more levels above the opponents?

Iron sharpens iron and he'd dull his instrument when not as well tested. Or he could risk injury and never get to play for Real Madrid or be a lesser version than his prime.

From Mbape's POV as well, how much money does one really need? He's set for multiple lifetimes already. So it's actually less tempting to deviate from the integrity of the game. This isn't a cross to bear of having to feed the family vs. compromising values.

And finally, how much to sweep atrocious human rights - read: women's rights, worker treatment - under the rug?

It's a loaded statement whatever he decides.


The one year term is a test case I think for what future lure adjustments could be made but of course it's a ton of money so that one side makes the big change, not the other. Just depends on where and what one's boundaries are that can't be crossed.


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Well Mbape isn't American and frankly doesn't need the money.

Besides some American athletes have already turned down crazy money.


I'd guess well under 0.01% of people would turn down close to a billion dollars for one year in a different sports league. Tiger is an exception as he's already worth over a billion.
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Re: Mbappe Offered 1 Year/1.1 Billion 

Post#52 » by Tracymcgoaty » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:34 am

G R E Y wrote:Why don't they put these giant mounds of money into development of their own leagues? Of their own grassroots programs and build up?

There's distasteful element to this that everyone can be bought and the actual product on the field is a spectacle rather than competitive sport, more like look what we can get for our money.

How does this help Mbape from a competitive standpoint when he'd be clearly even more levels above the opponents?

Iron sharpens iron and he'd dull his instrument when not as well tested. Or he could risk injury and never get to play for Real Madrid or be a lesser version than his prime.

From Mbape's POV as well, how much money does one really need? He's set for multiple lifetimes already. So it's actually less tempting to deviate from the integrity of the game. This isn't a cross to bear of having to feed the family vs. compromising values.

And finally, how much to sweep atrocious human rights - read: women's rights, worker treatment - under the rug?

It's a loaded statement whatever he decides.

The one year term is a test case I think for what future lure adjustments could be made but of course it's a ton of money so that one side makes the big change, not the other. Just depends on where and what one's boundaries are that can't be crossed.



If Mbappe would get signed it would only be for one year since he's going to Real Madrid regardless next season. It's not distasteful if anything it's great for football. Nobody gave a crap about football in the middle east and it was ridiculed more than anything. They aren't even signing megastars. They're signing good players who wouldn't ever sniff this kind of money unless they were superstars.

This is great for the competitiveness of the league.

Of course things will get political whenever this happens. You dont see crap though when Messi and Busquets are signed to the MLS. No cries about human rights violations or US foreign policy whenever that happens.

Like i can dig up a lot. Hey how can players go play in Italy considering the amount of racism minorities are subjected to? And what about Spain!! Oh the countless times black players have walked off the field because of idiots in the stands calling them monkeys?

Oh how i remember when some french politician commented that the french national team was ''too black'' I wonder how much that reflected the overall populations feelings towards the lack of white players.

But yes lets oust the Saudi league.
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Post#53 » by kbitboc » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:35 am

Can someone explain why though? Wouldn't they be losing money by offering that amount?
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Post#54 » by drekwins » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:36 am

Ambrose wrote:
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drekwins wrote:
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Nearly everyone can be bought in life. It's a reality of American values, our system and life. Very few things are pure.

Well Mbape isn't American and frankly doesn't need the money.

Besides some American athletes have already turned down crazy money.


I'd guess well under 0.01% of people would turn down close to a billion dollars for one year in a different sports league. Tiger is an exception as he's already worth over a billion.


Yep. And 50 years old and having an opportunity to play a sport for 30-40 years (if he didn't injure himself). For younger men, with only 10-15 year careers, I couldn't imagine them saying no. For instance, if they tried to buy MJ, I don't think he would say yes. But, if you're Ja Morant right now, thats an easy yes.
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Post#55 » by drekwins » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:42 am

kbitboc wrote:Can someone explain why though? Wouldn't they be losing money by offering that amount?


It's impossible to say. NBA owners don't disclose their earnings statements. Perhaps, Saudi leagues have a significantly lower cost to operate than the NBA? Or, perhaps they have additional ways to earn revenues? I have no idea but Yasir Al-Rumayyan is EXTREMELY competent financially. These decisions aren't just made for fun. They always make sense financially. We have no idea what numbers they are using, though. It's all private.
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Post#56 » by Shock Defeat » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:02 am

What are the taxes like in Saudi, because easily if Mbappe does his work in SA and there are no income taxes, he is making $700M in a year NET which is absurd, the equivalent to over $1B a year in America. This is no joke. Mbappe would be an idiot to reject this deal, for one single year make nearly 1 billion dollars.

This is an offer that you cannot refuse. Even if he doesn't need the money, he could start hundreds of charities making a real difference across the world, especially 3rd world countries. All of that for one single year of work/vacation.
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Re: Mbappe Offered 1 Year/1.1 Billion 

Post#57 » by NO-KG-AI » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:03 am

kbitboc wrote:Can someone explain why though? Wouldn't they be losing money by offering that amount?


They just don't care tbh. It's a rich man flex more than a business endeavor.
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Re: Mbappe Offered 1 Year/1.1 Billion 

Post#58 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:09 am

drekwins wrote:Of course, this is all speculation but I absolutely think that Mbappe's contract is going to make owners and commissioners in American sports very nervous.


No it's not.

Saudi money isn't unlimited. China did this and after a couple of years lost too much money and gave up. Saudi is trying to acquire a handful of expensive soccer players, at best they'll stay their 2-3 years, then the money will dry up and that's it.

And there's no evidence they are going to offer basketball players. And they definitely won't be paying baseball or football players.

Are MLS owners nervous? They're already behind the UK, Spain, Germany and France in the pecking order. Even if they were behind a 5th or 6th league, what difference does it make? Yet Messi choose MLS over the Saudis.
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Re: Mbappe Offered 1 Year/1.1 Billion 

Post#59 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:12 am

kbitboc wrote:Can someone explain why though? Wouldn't they be losing money by offering that amount?


Saudi is an authoritarian regime ruled by a royal family.

It's like asking people to explain the economics of Versailles, or all the crazy things corrupt African rulers spend money on. The point of Versailles wasn't to make money, it was an absolute ruler spending frivolously.

In this case, if the Saudi rulers can be associated with poplar figures in the West, and they think that will make citizens in the West like them more, it's worth taking $1B from their own citizens and giving it to a Westerner so Western governments are more supportive of them and let them get away with poor treatment of their own citizens.

You take money from your citizens to make it easier for you to violate the rights of your citizens so you can take even more money from them.
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Post#60 » by JDR720 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:13 am

G R E Y wrote:Why don't they put these giant mounds of money into development of their own leagues? Of their own grassroots programs and build up?

There's distasteful element to this that everyone can be bought and the actual product on the field is a spectacle rather than competitive sport, more like look what we can get for our money.

How does this help Mbape from a competitive standpoint when he'd be clearly even more levels above the opponents?

Iron sharpens iron and he'd dull his instrument when not as well tested. Or he could risk injury and never get to play for Real Madrid or be a lesser version than his prime.

From Mbape's POV as well, how much money does one really need? He's set for multiple lifetimes already. So it's actually less tempting to deviate from the integrity of the game. This isn't a cross to bear of having to feed the family vs. compromising values.

And finally, how much to sweep atrocious human rights - read: women's rights, worker treatment - under the rug?

It's a loaded statement whatever he decides.

The one year term is a test case I think for what future lure adjustments could be made but of course it's a ton of money so that one side makes the big change, not the other. Just depends on where and what one's boundaries are that can't be crossed.

Saudi Arabia aren't spending this money to improve soccer in their country. It's to get international attention and sportswash the things you've mentioned on human rights among other things.

Sadly, people value money over other things. If Saudi Arabia seriously attempted to start a basketball league, they'd get more than a few NBA players to join.

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