Trade/Free Agency Thread, whose NINE is it anyways?? 2023-24

[CelticFaninLBC]

I’m not advocating letting him walk, just following curm’s logic.

But again, how are you getting an asset for him ? He’s incentivized to block any trade; aka threaten to not resign. This effectively kills his market. Where is the asset coming from ?

many places

the largest reason for it is, someone will deal for him with the premise/gamble of selling Jaylen on being "the man" on his own team and selling him on the city, fans, etc.

So if I follow your logic:
1/ Jaylen Brown isn't very good.
2/ Boston should trade him to a team where he will be the best player which by definition means you are getting worse players back.
3/ The Celtics get pieces that help them win banner 18.

Am I missing something ? Because I feel like I am.

Should have started with, so if I follow your "illogic:"

[Hal14]

If this is the roster going into the year, I'm hoping Hauser can step up and be that backup wing we need. Guy has a sweet shot, and he holds his own on defense. If he's putting in the work this offseason, I think 20 minutes a game isn't crazy.

I definitely agree that Hauser can handle 20 MPG for us as the 8th man. We were 23-3 last season when he played 20 MPG.

With that being said, I don't think this is the roster going into the season. We get 15 roster spots, but have 14 guys under contract and only 11 of them have guaranteed contracts. At the very least, I figure we'll sign another free agent..

[Curmudgeon]

You deal JB for what you can get and let some other team give him the bag. Teams like Houston, Atlanta and OKC have some nice pieces. If you thought you were trading a quarter for three nickels you wouldn't do it. But he's not worth a quarter in my opinion. Doesn't make his teammates better.

[FlatearthZorro]

If Brown gets traded cause he refused to sign the super max, it’d be hilarious. Man has serious mental issues. I have no idea why he hasn’t signed yet. It is what it is though.

[zoyathedestroya]

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Curry scores a hole-in-one and wins a celebrity golf tourney. Jokic's horse wins a race. And Tatum can't even beat Caleb Martin in a series.

[_Und3r][D4wg_]

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...Jokic's horse wins a race...

Now there's a dude who seems genuinely happy to have won something... The Larry O'Brien trophy, on the other hand, seemed such a chore to him.

[zoyathedestroya]

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[zoyathedestroya]

Can only wish our stars have this kind of mentality. Team has had talent for three years running but most of our guys are underused and can give more imo. Coach and stars need to empower them.

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Can only wish our stars have this kind of mentality. Team has had talent for three years running but most of our guys are underused and can give more imo. Coach and stars need to empower them.

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Idk sounds good but this guy has been in full on recruiting mode since he got there. Wonder who the main targets are.

[chrisab123]

Don't worry. When the Celtics get eliminated from the playoffs again next year--in spite of having one of the highest payrolls in the league-- I'll be here to tell the Brown fans "I told you so."

Celtics likely miss the playoffs, if you're in charge.

But kid they have the heart and soul of the team still. Heart and soul kid.

[Larry_Russell]

I’m not advocating letting him walk, just following curm’s logic.

But again, how are you getting an asset for him ? He’s incentivized to block any trade; aka threaten to not resign. This effectively kills his market. Where is the asset coming from ?

many places

the largest reason for it is, someone will deal for him with the premise/gamble of selling Jaylen on being "the man" on his own team and selling him on the city, fans, etc.

So if I follow your logic:
1/ Jaylen Brown isn't very good.
2/ Boston should trade him to a team where he will be the best player which by definition means you are getting worse players back.
3/ The Celtics get pieces that help them win banner 18.

Am I missing something ? Because I feel like I am.

1) Never stated that. I have, on a number of occasions stated that Jaylen has some pretty glaring weaknesses (going left, IQ, playmaking) and that he has shown a trend toward regression over the last few years (slight, but lower 3pt shooting, worse defesne) coupled with a glaringly obvious LACK of work/focus on the things he is truly weak at making him a very 1 dimensional player who you probably cannot count on when it matters.

2) no, not at all. you do realize that players would be leaving the team that Jaylen is traded to right? Lets say brown was traded for lillard. Brown would be the best player on Portland, Dame the better player of the 2. LEts say Brown is traded for Embiid, Brown would be the best player on the 6ers, embiid the better player. I am in the grouping that you need a superstar and a great roster around them. I feel very strongly that Timelord, Porzingas, Tatum and White make a **** outstanding quartet and a a Brown deal for a player who compliments Tatum will be far better in the long run. A guy who can take some of the playmaking duties, who can handle the ball, who can and does defend and can hit a high percentage of 3 pointers. Basically a 3D guy who can playmake.

Brown last 3 seasons
40%>36%>33.5% from three

16.5%>17.9%>16.5% assist rate

3.2> 1.9> 1.5 OBPM
2.5>2.1>1.3 BPM
2.8>2.3>1.6 OWS
.115>.124>.100 WS/48


3) If they get the guys that I previously outlined and everyone stays healthy...yes they will. I dont see how posters cannot see that we need someone (s) that can do most of the below:

Take defensive pressure of Tatum
Take playmaking responsibilities off of tatum
Take care of the ball
Make a high % of their 3pt attempts
Protect the ball.

Just really need ELITE skills of some sort.

Tatum is an Elite PLayer
Timelord is an Elite defender
Porzingas has elite skills for a bigman with the ability to shoot, handle and pass
White is, technically, an elite glue guy and an elite defender

Hauser is an Elite shooter
Walsh is potentially and elite defender
Pritchard is an elite shooter
Brogdon is an elite shooter and an elite 6th man
Horford is an elite shooter and an elite defender


Brown has no elite skills. He is good at many things though.

[Hal14]

many places

the largest reason for it is, someone will deal for him with the premise/gamble of selling Jaylen on being "the man" on his own team and selling him on the city, fans, etc.

So if I follow your logic:
1/ Jaylen Brown isn't very good.
2/ Boston should trade him to a team where he will be the best player which by definition means you are getting worse players back.
3/ The Celtics get pieces that help them win banner 18.

Am I missing something ? Because I feel like I am.

1) Never stated that. I have, on a number of occasions stated that Jaylen has some pretty glaring weaknesses (going left, IQ, playmaking) and that he has shown a trend toward regression over the last few years (slight, but lower 3pt shooting, worse defesne) coupled with a glaringly obvious LACK of work/focus on the things he is truly weak at making him a very 1 dimensional player who you probably cannot count on when it matters.

2) no, not at all. you do realize that players would be leaving the team that Jaylen is traded to right? Lets say brown was traded for lillard. Brown would be the best player on Portland, Dame the better player of the 2. LEts say Brown is traded for Embiid, Brown would be the best player on the 6ers, embiid the better player. I am in the grouping that you need a superstar and a great roster around them. I feel very strongly that Timelord, Porzingas, Tatum and White make a **** outstanding quartet and a a Brown deal for a player who compliments Tatum will be far better in the long run. A guy who can take some of the playmaking duties, who can handle the ball, who can and does defend and can hit a high percentage of 3 pointers. Basically a 3D guy who can playmake.

Brown last 3 seasons
40%>36%>33.5% from three

16.5%>17.9%>16.5% assist rate

3.2> 1.9> 1.5 OBPM
2.5>2.1>1.3 BPM
2.8>2.3>1.6 OWS
.115>.124>.100 WS/48


3) If they get the guys that I previously outlined and everyone stays healthy...yes they will. I dont see how posters cannot see that we need someone (s) that can do most of the below:

Take defensive pressure of Tatum
Take playmaking responsibilities off of tatum
Take care of the ball
Make a high % of their 3pt attempts
Protect the ball.

Just really need ELITE skills of some sort.

Tatum is an Elite PLayer
Timelord is an Elite defender
Porzingas has elite skills for a bigman with the ability to shoot, handle and pass
White is, technically, an elite glue guy and an elite defender

Hauser is an Elite shooter
Walsh is potentially and elite defender
Pritchard is an elite shooter
Brogdon is an elite shooter and an elite 6th man
Horford is an elite shooter and an elite defender


Brown has no elite skills. He is good at many things though.

Are you trying to say that you think Pritchard is better than JB? If not, what was the point in bringing him up?

Oh man, I see you brought up Walsh too lol.

You're really reaching here.

JB has his flaws, sure. But you seem to be going overboard here and implying that he is some trash player who doesn't even belong in the league.

JB has made 2 all-star teams. He was the #2 option on a team that had the #1 net rating in the league and went to the NBA finals at age 25. He was the #2 option on a team that had the #1 net rating in the league and made it to game 7 of the ECF, while also making 2nd team all-NBA at age 26 - while averaging 27 PPG on good efficiency. At age 26, he's made playoffs all 7 years in the league, he's made 5 conference finals and 1 NBA finals. He's one of the best 2-way wings in the league, can score on all 3 levels (4 including transition where he's one of the best finishers in the league) and one of the most athletic wings in the league. He plays hard in games, he's got strong work ethic, he's a good teammate, been here 7 yrs (our longest tenured player) and is well liked by all of his teammates, coaches and everyone in the organization. Does a lot to help in the community too.

[Larry_Russell]

So if I follow your logic:
1/ Jaylen Brown isn't very good.
2/ Boston should trade him to a team where he will be the best player which by definition means you are getting worse players back.
3/ The Celtics get pieces that help them win banner 18.

Am I missing something ? Because I feel like I am.

1) Never stated that. I have, on a number of occasions stated that Jaylen has some pretty glaring weaknesses (going left, IQ, playmaking) and that he has shown a trend toward regression over the last few years (slight, but lower 3pt shooting, worse defesne) coupled with a glaringly obvious LACK of work/focus on the things he is truly weak at making him a very 1 dimensional player who you probably cannot count on when it matters.

2) no, not at all. you do realize that players would be leaving the team that Jaylen is traded to right? Lets say brown was traded for lillard. Brown would be the best player on Portland, Dame the better player of the 2. LEts say Brown is traded for Embiid, Brown would be the best player on the 6ers, embiid the better player. I am in the grouping that you need a superstar and a great roster around them. I feel very strongly that Timelord, Porzingas, Tatum and White make a **** outstanding quartet and a a Brown deal for a player who compliments Tatum will be far better in the long run. A guy who can take some of the playmaking duties, who can handle the ball, who can and does defend and can hit a high percentage of 3 pointers. Basically a 3D guy who can playmake.

Brown last 3 seasons
40%>36%>33.5% from three

16.5%>17.9%>16.5% assist rate

3.2> 1.9> 1.5 OBPM
2.5>2.1>1.3 BPM
2.8>2.3>1.6 OWS
.115>.124>.100 WS/48


3) If they get the guys that I previously outlined and everyone stays healthy...yes they will. I dont see how posters cannot see that we need someone (s) that can do most of the below:

Take defensive pressure of Tatum
Take playmaking responsibilities off of tatum
Take care of the ball
Make a high % of their 3pt attempts
Protect the ball.

Just really need ELITE skills of some sort.

Tatum is an Elite PLayer
Timelord is an Elite defender
Porzingas has elite skills for a bigman with the ability to shoot, handle and pass
White is, technically, an elite glue guy and an elite defender

Hauser is an Elite shooter
Walsh is potentially and elite defender
Pritchard is an elite shooter
Brogdon is an elite shooter and an elite 6th man
Horford is an elite shooter and an elite defender


Brown has no elite skills. He is good at many things though.

Are you trying to say that you think Pritchard is better than JB? If not, what was the point in bringing him up?

Oh man, I see you brought up Walsh too lol.

You're really reaching here.

no, not that at all. I thought that seemed obvious. I was talking about players having ELITE skills that are on the team.

Pritchard is certainly a superior shooter. Pritchard is an elite shooter. He has an ELite skill, which is, what it seems like, brad is trying to build on. Role players whol have an Elite skill. Hauser, elite shooter, Horford, Elite shooter and defender, etc, etc, etc.

But like I stated, I dont see Brown as being ELITE at anything. He is good, arguably great, at some stuff....but he isnt ELITE

[GoCeltics123]

1) Never stated that. I have, on a number of occasions stated that Jaylen has some pretty glaring weaknesses (going left, IQ, playmaking) and that he has shown a trend toward regression over the last few years (slight, but lower 3pt shooting, worse defesne) coupled with a glaringly obvious LACK of work/focus on the things he is truly weak at making him a very 1 dimensional player who you probably cannot count on when it matters.

2) no, not at all. you do realize that players would be leaving the team that Jaylen is traded to right? Lets say brown was traded for lillard. Brown would be the best player on Portland, Dame the better player of the 2. LEts say Brown is traded for Embiid, Brown would be the best player on the 6ers, embiid the better player. I am in the grouping that you need a superstar and a great roster around them. I feel very strongly that Timelord, Porzingas, Tatum and White make a **** outstanding quartet and a a Brown deal for a player who compliments Tatum will be far better in the long run. A guy who can take some of the playmaking duties, who can handle the ball, who can and does defend and can hit a high percentage of 3 pointers. Basically a 3D guy who can playmake.

Brown last 3 seasons
40%>36%>33.5% from three

16.5%>17.9%>16.5% assist rate

3.2> 1.9> 1.5 OBPM
2.5>2.1>1.3 BPM
2.8>2.3>1.6 OWS
.115>.124>.100 WS/48


3) If they get the guys that I previously outlined and everyone stays healthy...yes they will. I dont see how posters cannot see that we need someone (s) that can do most of the below:

Take defensive pressure of Tatum
Take playmaking responsibilities off of tatum
Take care of the ball
Make a high % of their 3pt attempts
Protect the ball.

Just really need ELITE skills of some sort.

Tatum is an Elite PLayer
Timelord is an Elite defender
Porzingas has elite skills for a bigman with the ability to shoot, handle and pass
White is, technically, an elite glue guy and an elite defender

Hauser is an Elite shooter
Walsh is potentially and elite defender
Pritchard is an elite shooter
Brogdon is an elite shooter and an elite 6th man
Horford is an elite shooter and an elite defender


Brown has no elite skills. He is good at many things though.

Are you trying to say that you think Pritchard is better than JB? If not, what was the point in bringing him up?

Oh man, I see you brought up Walsh too lol.

You're really reaching here.

no, not that at all. I thought that seemed obvious. I was talking about players having ELITE skills that are on the team.

Pritchard is certainly a superior shooter. Pritchard is an elite shooter. He has an ELite skill, which is, what it seems like, brad is trying to build on. Role players whol have an Elite skill. Hauser, elite shooter, Horford, Elite shooter and defender, etc, etc, etc.

But like I stated, I dont see Brown as being ELITE at anything. He is good, arguably great, at some stuff....but he isnt ELITE

He's an elite scorer for sure. Not elite at anything else, but he's an elite scorer.

Also PP is not an elite shooter

[Larry_Russell]

So if I follow your logic:
1/ Jaylen Brown isn't very good.
2/ Boston should trade him to a team where he will be the best player which by definition means you are getting worse players back.
3/ The Celtics get pieces that help them win banner 18.

Am I missing something ? Because I feel like I am.

1) Never stated that. I have, on a number of occasions stated that Jaylen has some pretty glaring weaknesses (going left, IQ, playmaking) and that he has shown a trend toward regression over the last few years (slight, but lower 3pt shooting, worse defesne) coupled with a glaringly obvious LACK of work/focus on the things he is truly weak at making him a very 1 dimensional player who you probably cannot count on when it matters.

2) no, not at all. you do realize that players would be leaving the team that Jaylen is traded to right? Lets say brown was traded for lillard. Brown would be the best player on Portland, Dame the better player of the 2. LEts say Brown is traded for Embiid, Brown would be the best player on the 6ers, embiid the better player. I am in the grouping that you need a superstar and a great roster around them. I feel very strongly that Timelord, Porzingas, Tatum and White make a **** outstanding quartet and a a Brown deal for a player who compliments Tatum will be far better in the long run. A guy who can take some of the playmaking duties, who can handle the ball, who can and does defend and can hit a high percentage of 3 pointers. Basically a 3D guy who can playmake.

Brown last 3 seasons
40%>36%>33.5% from three

16.5%>17.9%>16.5% assist rate

3.2> 1.9> 1.5 OBPM
2.5>2.1>1.3 BPM
2.8>2.3>1.6 OWS
.115>.124>.100 WS/48


3) If they get the guys that I previously outlined and everyone stays healthy...yes they will. I dont see how posters cannot see that we need someone (s) that can do most of the below:

Take defensive pressure of Tatum
Take playmaking responsibilities off of tatum
Take care of the ball
Make a high % of their 3pt attempts
Protect the ball.

Just really need ELITE skills of some sort.

Tatum is an Elite PLayer
Timelord is an Elite defender
Porzingas has elite skills for a bigman with the ability to shoot, handle and pass
White is, technically, an elite glue guy and an elite defender

Hauser is an Elite shooter
Walsh is potentially and elite defender
Pritchard is an elite shooter
Brogdon is an elite shooter and an elite 6th man
Horford is an elite shooter and an elite defender


Brown has no elite skills. He is good at many things though.

Are you trying to say that you think Pritchard is better than JB? If not, what was the point in bringing him up?

Oh man, I see you brought up Walsh too lol.

You're really reaching here.

JB has his flaws, sure. But you seem to be going overboard here and implying that he is some trash player who doesn't even belong in the league.

JB has made 2 all-star teams. He was the #2 option on a team that had the #1 net rating in the league and went to the NBA finals at age 25. He was the #2 option on a team that had the #1 net rating in the league and made it to game 7 of the ECF, while also making 2nd team all-NBA at age 26 - while averaging 27 PPG on good efficiency. At age 26, he's made playoffs all 7 years in the league, he's made 5 conference finals and 1 NBA finals. He's one of the best 2-way wings in the league, can score on all 3 levels (4 including transition where he's one of the best finishers in the league) and one of the most athletic wings in the league. He plays hard in games, he's got strong work ethic, he's a good teammate, been here 7 yrs (our longest tenured player) and is well liked by all of his teammates, coaches and everyone in the organization. Does a lot to help in the community too.

Why is reading comprehension so hard for some people?

I thought that seemed obvious. I was talking about players having ELITE skills that are on the team.

Pritchard is certainly a superior shooter. Pritchard is an elite shooter. He has an ELite skill, which is, what it seems like, brad is trying to build on. Role players whol have an Elite skill. Hauser, elite shooter, Horford, Elite shooter and defender, etc, etc, etc.

But like I stated, I dont see Brown as being ELITE at anything. He is good, arguably great, at some stuff....but he isnt ELITE


the whole entire last paragraph you posted has no bearing as most of the value you put on brown is based on team stats.

So taking all of that away you are left with 27ppg on good efficiency (NOT great or elite)

one of the best 2 way wings in the league? meh...I dont think I can agree with that. His defense has dropped year over year for the past 3 years. and he far to often gets lost on that end. He is at his best defending the post, but doesnt do it a lot. He is good to great at that, not elite

SCore on all three levels.
Declining 3pt % year over year and had 33.5 last year - How can you say that someone is great at scoring on all three levels if their 3pt% was the same as marcus smarts last season??

Finishing, I am not sure if there is a better way to look at that, but his fg% from 3 feet and under was 73.7% last season....good for 54th in the NBA. So not ELITE. Good I guess?

And Al HOrford is good for community, well liked by everyone, been in playoffs a bunch, in the finals, in the ecfs, etc....should we pay him 25 million per season?

[Larry_Russell]

Are you trying to say that you think Pritchard is better than JB? If not, what was the point in bringing him up?

Oh man, I see you brought up Walsh too lol.

You're really reaching here.

no, not that at all. I thought that seemed obvious. I was talking about players having ELITE skills that are on the team.

Pritchard is certainly a superior shooter. Pritchard is an elite shooter. He has an ELite skill, which is, what it seems like, brad is trying to build on. Role players whol have an Elite skill. Hauser, elite shooter, Horford, Elite shooter and defender, etc, etc, etc.

But like I stated, I dont see Brown as being ELITE at anything. He is good, arguably great, at some stuff....but he isnt ELITE

He's an elite scorer for sure. Not elite at anything else, but he's an elite scorer.

Also PP is not an elite shooter

Not an elite scorer.

33.5% from 3
74% from the ft line

That disqualifies from elite scoring.

An Elite scorer would be 37-38% from 3, 80% from ft line while maintaining his other %s.



And Pritchaard, I will accept that he isnt an Elite shooter. Great shooter though, last season his numbers were down for sure. He COULD be an elite shooter, but isnt right now.

[ddb]

Floor spacing. Interested to see a Brogdon/Pritchard/Hauser/Tatum/Kristaps group on the floor together for stretches

[pac213up]

Jaylen Brown is absolutely Elite at the rim.

[Hal14]

1) Never stated that. I have, on a number of occasions stated that Jaylen has some pretty glaring weaknesses (going left, IQ, playmaking) and that he has shown a trend toward regression over the last few years (slight, but lower 3pt shooting, worse defesne) coupled with a glaringly obvious LACK of work/focus on the things he is truly weak at making him a very 1 dimensional player who you probably cannot count on when it matters.

2) no, not at all. you do realize that players would be leaving the team that Jaylen is traded to right? Lets say brown was traded for lillard. Brown would be the best player on Portland, Dame the better player of the 2. LEts say Brown is traded for Embiid, Brown would be the best player on the 6ers, embiid the better player. I am in the grouping that you need a superstar and a great roster around them. I feel very strongly that Timelord, Porzingas, Tatum and White make a **** outstanding quartet and a a Brown deal for a player who compliments Tatum will be far better in the long run. A guy who can take some of the playmaking duties, who can handle the ball, who can and does defend and can hit a high percentage of 3 pointers. Basically a 3D guy who can playmake.

Brown last 3 seasons
40%>36%>33.5% from three

16.5%>17.9%>16.5% assist rate

3.2> 1.9> 1.5 OBPM
2.5>2.1>1.3 BPM
2.8>2.3>1.6 OWS
.115>.124>.100 WS/48


3) If they get the guys that I previously outlined and everyone stays healthy...yes they will. I dont see how posters cannot see that we need someone (s) that can do most of the below:

Take defensive pressure of Tatum
Take playmaking responsibilities off of tatum
Take care of the ball
Make a high % of their 3pt attempts
Protect the ball.

Just really need ELITE skills of some sort.

Tatum is an Elite PLayer
Timelord is an Elite defender
Porzingas has elite skills for a bigman with the ability to shoot, handle and pass
White is, technically, an elite glue guy and an elite defender

Hauser is an Elite shooter
Walsh is potentially and elite defender
Pritchard is an elite shooter
Brogdon is an elite shooter and an elite 6th man
Horford is an elite shooter and an elite defender


Brown has no elite skills. He is good at many things though.

Are you trying to say that you think Pritchard is better than JB? If not, what was the point in bringing him up?

Oh man, I see you brought up Walsh too lol.

You're really reaching here.

JB has his flaws, sure. But you seem to be going overboard here and implying that he is some trash player who doesn't even belong in the league.

JB has made 2 all-star teams. He was the #2 option on a team that had the #1 net rating in the league and went to the NBA finals at age 25. He was the #2 option on a team that had the #1 net rating in the league and made it to game 7 of the ECF, while also making 2nd team all-NBA at age 26 - while averaging 27 PPG on good efficiency. At age 26, he's made playoffs all 7 years in the league, he's made 5 conference finals and 1 NBA finals. He's one of the best 2-way wings in the league, can score on all 3 levels (4 including transition where he's one of the best finishers in the league) and one of the most athletic wings in the league. He plays hard in games, he's got strong work ethic, he's a good teammate, been here 7 yrs (our longest tenured player) and is well liked by all of his teammates, coaches and everyone in the organization. Does a lot to help in the community too.

Why is reading comprehension so hard for some people?

I thought that seemed obvious. I was talking about players having ELITE skills that are on the team.

Pritchard is certainly a superior shooter. Pritchard is an elite shooter. He has an ELite skill, which is, what it seems like, brad is trying to build on. Role players whol have an Elite skill. Hauser, elite shooter, Horford, Elite shooter and defender, etc, etc, etc.

But like I stated, I dont see Brown as being ELITE at anything. He is good, arguably great, at some stuff....but he isnt ELITE


the whole entire last paragraph you posted has no bearing as most of the value you put on brown is based on team stats.

So taking all of that away you are left with 27ppg on good efficiency (NOT great or elite)

one of the best 2 way wings in the league? meh...I dont think I can agree with that. His defense has dropped year over year for the past 3 years. and he far to often gets lost on that end. He is at his best defending the post, but doesnt do it a lot. He is good to great at that, not elite

SCore on all three levels.
Declining 3pt % year over year and had 33.5 last year - How can you say that someone is great at scoring on all three levels if their 3pt% was the same as marcus smarts last season??

Finishing, I am not sure if there is a better way to look at that, but his fg% from 3 feet and under was 73.7% last season....good for 54th in the NBA. So not ELITE. Good I guess?

And Al HOrford is good for community, well liked by everyone, been in playoffs a bunch, in the finals, in the ecfs, etc....should we pay him 25 million per season?

Dude, just stop.

74% at the rim is VERY good for a wing. 54th in the league, yeah obviously most of the top 53 guys are bigs or they played a very small sample size of games/minutes.

I didn't say he was great at scoring on all 3 levels. Guess you're the one with reading comprehension issues.

Don't just dismiss the team success. The list of guys who have been in the playoffs each of their first 7 yrs in the league, made 5 conference finals by age 26, #2 option on a NBA finals team by age 25 and #2 option on an conference finals team...all that by age 26..the list of guys in NBA history to do that is VERY short. Yes, it's dependent on having good teammates, but JB has been a HUGE part of these teams. Your #2 option plays a HUGE role on a team if that team is gonna make the NBA finals. Don't act like he's just been some bench warmer, along for the ride on these teams.

This is trolling - not even worth responding to.

[OldCeltics]

Brown is a 3rd option, 30 million dollar player. He should not go anywhere near 40+ million, never mind 60 million per year. Everyone here has lost their minds.

Trade Brown. His dribbling handle is poor, he can't really create his own shot other than driving the lane, he's sub par in clutch time. He's a border line all-star, but thats all he is. He's average to slightly above average in most categories. But he doesn't excel at anything.