Trade/Free Agency Thread, whose NINE is it anyways?? 2023-24

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #1821 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:24 pm

Sports Radio will be happy...

KamikazeK · Post #1822 » by **KamikazeK** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:24 pm

Memokerobi wrote:Jaylen fans assemble!!

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Good to have you on board again JB. Silence the haters this year for us buddy.

Celts17Pride · Post #1823 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:25 pm

JaMarco wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:In the long run this will end up a bargain. Contracts are about to get silly moving forward.

Yea that's the thing, people cry about how overpriced Brown's contract is but every player is about to be overpaid so it evens out.

Tatum is going to have the richest contract in NBA history next year and so on, and so on.

Memokerobi · Post #1824 » by **Memokerobi** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:25 pm

The unanimous positive thing about this deal should be that it will cover Jaylen's age 27-32 seasons. No years where he has a risk of falling off a cliff (barring major injury, knock on wood). He's locked through his prime

chrisab123 · Post #1825 » by **chrisab123** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:28 pm

As expected Jaylen not leaving a dime on the table. The good thing is about this is when he asks out in the offseason it should be around the same time that Embiid or Luka might have that conversation with their teams.

Then again if you're the Hawks or one of the teams in LA or NY the clock starts ticking today.

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #1826 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:28 pm

Indeed!

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Celts17Pride · Post #1827 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:30 pm

chrisab123 wrote:As expected Jaylen not leaving a dime on the table. The good thing is about this is when he asks out in the offseason it should be around the same time that Embiid or Luka might have that conversation with their teams.

Then again if you're the Hawks or one of the teams in LA or NY the clock starts ticking today.

Jaylen Brown is not asking out. That's a RealGM myth. Celtics could trade him though.

KamikazeK · Post #1828 » by **KamikazeK** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:30 pm

Memokerobi wrote:The unanimous positive thing about this deal should be that it will cover Jaylen's age 27-32 seasons. No years where he has a risk of falling off a cliff (barring major injury, knock on wood). He's locked through his prime

They're betting that JT/JB/KP can take us to the promised land (or can be traded for players that will). I see it as a gamble, but most of their careers so far make me thing the Jay's have in in them. We'll see.

Drax · Post #1829 » by **Drax** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:30 pm

Title or bust it is.

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #1830 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:32 pm

Wow...

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chrisab123 · Post #1831 » by **chrisab123** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:32 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:As expected Jaylen not leaving a dime on the table. The good thing is about this is when he asks out in the offseason it should be around the same time that Embiid or Luka might have that conversation with their teams.

Then again if you're the Hawks or one of the teams in LA or NY the clock starts ticking today.

Jaylen Brown is not asking out. That's a RealGM myth. Celtics could trade him though.

There was talk last year at various times that he was interested in Atlanta NY LA and Miami. Don't be so sure about that.

Post #1832 » by **165bows** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:33 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
JaMarco wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:In the long run this will end up a bargain. Contracts are about to get silly moving forward.

Yea that's the thing, people cry about how overpriced Brown's contract is but every player is about to be overpaid so it evens out.

Tatum is going to have the richest contract in NBA history next year and so on, and so on.

That's a good point, it's possible the team has the two highest contracts in NBA history for a minute if he signs before Giannis the year following, that probably will be the next "biggest in history" if he gets five years.

Though I'm not sure I'd like that deal at all for Giannis at ages 31-35, seems more than a little risky at that point.

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #1833 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:34 pm

Hmm, is that a positive or negative? Won't the Trade Kicker make it more difficult to trade Jaylen?

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Post #1834 » by **165bows** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:34 pm

KamikazeK wrote:
Memokerobi wrote:The unanimous positive thing about this deal should be that it will cover Jaylen's age 27-32 seasons. No years where he has a risk of falling off a cliff (barring major injury, knock on wood). He's locked through his prime

They're betting that JT/JB/KP can take us to the promised land (or can be traded for players that will). I see it as a gamble, but most of their careers so far make me thing the Jay's have in in them. We'll see.

Those three backed up by D. White/Al/Rob/Brogdon is getting slept on imo. This team will be really really good.

Celts17Pride · Post #1835 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:35 pm

Bobby Marks @BobbyMarks42
about 7 minutes ago

Here’s what Boston could be on the hook for if the salary cap jumps 10% over the next 2 seasons: Jaylen Brown $304M (starts in 24-25) Jayson Tatum $338M (starts in 25-26)

and guess what? Neither one of them are worth those contracts. NBA contracts have nothing to do with what a player is worth!

Personally I'm fine with both Brown and Tatum getting paid.

hugepatsfan · Post #1836 » by **hugepatsfan** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:35 pm

165bows wrote:
watsonthedragon wrote:Spears tweet says worth UP TO $304m. Going to reserve judgement until we see what the incentives are.

Yeah, good catch. Prob closer to the original 295 number I'd guess.

I might be wrong, but that might be more about the cap than it is incentives. His deal can be 35% of the cap next year and get 8% raises from there. The cap isn't set though. The $305M number is based on the maximum 10% increase the cap can go up by. The $295M numbers that were floating around earlier were based on the more tempered projection that websites and reporters are using.

Maybe incentives are in the deal, but my guess is it's a straight supermax and the "up to" just refers to salary cap fluctuations.

Celts17Pride · Post #1837 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:36 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:As expected Jaylen not leaving a dime on the table. The good thing is about this is when he asks out in the offseason it should be around the same time that Embiid or Luka might have that conversation with their teams.

Then again if you're the Hawks or one of the teams in LA or NY the clock starts ticking today.

Jaylen Brown is not asking out. That's a RealGM myth. Celtics could trade him though.

There was talk last year at various times that he was interested in Atlanta NY LA and Miami. Don't be so sure about that.

Yeah, talk inside Celtics RealGM forum.

itrsteve · Post #1838 » by **itrsteve** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:36 pm

Welp, this is our team now. Hope we like them.

Also, so close on Page 1

itrsteve wrote:
TommyPoints wrote:Surely this is the thread where a deal goes down.

Over/Under on Jaylen's contract by page 89?

hugepatsfan · Post #1839 » by **hugepatsfan** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:37 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Hmm, is that a positive or negative? Won't the Trade Kicker make it more difficult to trade Jaylen?

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Not fully versed on how trade kickers work in the new CBA, but I'm pretty sure the team trading a player away pays it. So it would make it more expensive for us to trade him, but not sure how much it hurts his value to the other side, if that makes sense.

Bill Lumbergh · Post #1840 » by **Bill Lumbergh** » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:38 pm

Now sign Oubre and call it a summer.