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Trade/Free Agency Thread, whose NINE is it anyways?? 2023-24

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, whose NINE is it anyways?? 2023-24 

Post#1841 » by ajones9219 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:39 pm

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chrisab123 wrote:As expected Jaylen not leaving a dime on the table. The good thing is about this is when he asks out in the offseason it should be around the same time that Embiid or Luka might have that conversation with their teams.

Then again if you're the Hawks or one of the teams in LA or NY the clock starts ticking today.

Jaylen Brown is not asking out. That's a RealGM myth. Celtics could trade him though.


There was talk last year at various times that he was interested in Atlanta NY LA and Miami. Don't be so sure about that.


Talk from where exactly? I have yet to see a single credible source say anything regarding him wanting to be anywhere other than Boston.
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Post#1842 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:39 pm

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Post#1843 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:40 pm

Richest deal in NBA history.

Rinses away the stupid ‘Boston doesn’t take care of it’s players’ bull.

Congrats JB.
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Post#1845 » by Celtics_Champs » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:42 pm

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Richest deal in NBA history.

Rinses away the stupid ‘Boston doesn’t take care of it’s players’ bull.

Congrats JB.


Congrats Juice!!!
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Post#1846 » by Bill Lumbergh » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:44 pm

Who will get our last spot and will it happen in short order?
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Post#1847 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:47 pm

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Post#1848 » by darrendaye » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:47 pm

Trade kicker basically serves as a trade inhibitor and gives him some control on where he goes if on the block in a couple of years. Terms of CBA, I believe, still allows him to waive it.
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Post#1849 » by lon3lytoaster » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:48 pm

Tough to swallow that contract but no other real options. That’s a lot of Earth Tokens Jaylen can throw into his clothing line now at least.
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Post#1850 » by KamikazeK » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:48 pm

Drafting back to back all NBA players is pretty much the dream scenario. I think any team serious about competing would have paid to keep him unless they got a trade offer they couldn't refuse.
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Post#1851 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:49 pm

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Ya massive for a guy to have an option to turn down 70M loll
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Post#1852 » by pac213up » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:49 pm

What a great day to be a fan of the Celtics.
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Post#1853 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:49 pm

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The Supermax creates way more problems than it was intended to solve.


I agree with this 100%. Don't hate Jaylen Brown, hate the NBA's CBA.
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Post#1854 » by 165bows » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:50 pm

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watsonthedragon wrote:Spears tweet says worth UP TO $304m. Going to reserve judgement until we see what the incentives are.

Yeah, good catch. Prob closer to the original 295 number I'd guess.


I might be wrong, but that might be more about the cap than it is incentives. His deal can be 35% of the cap next year and get 8% raises from there. The cap isn't set though. The $305M number is based on the maximum 10% increase the cap can go up by. The $295M numbers that were floating around earlier were based on the more tempered projection that websites and reporters are using.

Maybe incentives are in the deal, but my guess is it's a straight supermax and the "up to" just refers to salary cap fluctuations.

That could be a part of it, could be both. Will be interesting to see.
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Post#1855 » by 165bows » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:54 pm

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Basically JB won't ever be the highest paid player in the sport. He'll have the largest guaranteed deal over a period of a year, very, very unlikely he's ever highest paid guy and won't be next year or the year after.
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Post#1856 » by Hal14 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:55 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:with brown at that contract, anything less that him being the #1 option on a championship team and its terrible.

You're really getting insufferable.

It's the contract he is eligible to receive because he met these thresholds:

-made all-NBA team,
-still with the team that drafted him and
-is eligible for his next contract extension after his rookie extension

Simple as that.

Jamal Murray, Brandon Ingram, Siakam, Trae Young, Julius Randle, Markannen, Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland, Zion, Lavine, Bam, KAT, etc. If any of these guys met those thresholds, they'd be getting the same contract right now.
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Post#1857 » by GotDaSauce » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:56 pm

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Basically JB won't ever be the highest paid player in the sport. He'll have the largest guaranteed deal over a period of a year, very, very unlikely he's ever highest paid guy and won't be next year or the year after.

Exactly!
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Post#1858 » by ddb » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:58 pm

Brad had no other option other than to trade him for 75 cents to the dollar. Let's see what else Brad has up his sleeve. CBA sucks. It causes way more harm to teams then it solves. I agree with that statement above.
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Post#1859 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:58 pm

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Post#1860 » by keevsnick1 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:58 pm

darrendaye wrote:Trade kicker basically serves as a trade inhibitor and gives him some control on where he goes if on the block in a couple of years. Terms of CBA, I believe, still allows him to waive it.


The trade kicker will in all likelihood not matter much at all. A trade kicker cannot push your salary over its max, since Jaylen Brown is already making the max its soot of moot.

IF the cap does indeed rise at 10% a year compounded as many seem to expect and his contract rises by a flat 8% a year there will be some small amount of salary difference between his salary and his theoretical max, but its likely to be no more than a few million over years 2-5 of the deal.

The LARGEST possible difference the trade kicker could make would be about 16 million over years 2-5 of the deal if the cap increases by its 10% maximum a year in those years.

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