Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . .

[darrendaye]

Remember, they are approximately 2.2mm in comfortable room under the 2nd apron now. They could roll the dice on the unlikely to be earned incentives for Rob and Derrick and work with up to 1.9mm more. Be mindful of this as you proceed. I can't tell you to assume they want to stay below. But it should be a consideration as one proposes transactions. My favorite route to take would be sign Javonte Green to vet min (guess-timating it to be around 2mm) and trade for Garuba (2.5mm contract value), but realize that would involve them running the risk of the ULTBEs pushing them to the 2nd apron.

Just did the math on this and the above numbers include all non-gtd money, ie Champs and Kornet.

Which thinking it through makes sense, since why would they include Kornet in the total but not Champs.

Spotrac also has this resource, as we ponder financial implications and such, of what the vet min would be at certain years of experience levels. They do not have 23-24 yet however
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cba/minimum/

[165bows]

Remember, they are approximately 2.2mm in comfortable room under the 2nd apron now. They could roll the dice on the unlikely to be earned incentives for Rob and Derrick and work with up to 1.9mm more. Be mindful of this as you proceed. I can't tell you to assume they want to stay below. But it should be a consideration as one proposes transactions. My favorite route to take would be sign Javonte Green to vet min (guess-timating it to be around 2mm) and trade for Garuba (2.5mm contract value), but realize that would involve them running the risk of the ULTBEs pushing them to the 2nd apron.

Just did the math on this and the above numbers include all non-gtd money, ie Champs and Kornet.

Which thinking it through makes sense, since why would they include Kornet in the total but not Champs.

Spotrac also has this resource, as we ponder financial implications and such, of what the vet min would be at certain years of experience levels. They do not have 23-24 yet however
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cba/minimum/

Just edited the prior post, for some reason they list a salary for Walsh but don’t include it in the cap total. Not sure why, have to figure that part out.

[165bows]

I still need to get a handle on a couple parts of the math, but I’m pretty confident saying they can add a couple of vet min guys and stay under the apron a tiny bit. This assumes Champs gets waived which seems likely but if not then just one guy.

That said it wouldn’t surprise me to see them tick over the apron - like the second half of ‘22, when some positive results kicked them barely into the luxury tax at the end of the year. Still makes sense to start under as they don’t need to go over and in the event they want to make a trade later might as well have the added bits of flexibility as long as possible. But I don’t think going over is a huge deal, a bunch of teams have.

So maybe Blake comes back and we can spend the rest of the summer figuring out the last guy.

Leaning towards J. Green of the Celtics alumni variety or Aaron Wiggins, and gimme Blake back too. Preferences may change as we learn more.

[darrendaye]

Just did the math on this and the above numbers include all non-gtd money, ie Champs and Kornet.

Which thinking it through makes sense, since why would they include Kornet in the total but not Champs.

Spotrac also has this resource, as we ponder financial implications and such, of what the vet min would be at certain years of experience levels. They do not have 23-24 yet however
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cba/minimum/

Just edited the prior post, for some reason they list a salary for Walsh but don’t include it in the cap total. Not sure why, have to figure that part out.

Yep, I noted that on one of my posts yesterday. That's why I keep mentioning it's 2.2mm in room not 3.3mm. Interestingly they do seem to include it in their 24-25 calculations.

[165bows]

Spotrac also has this resource, as we ponder financial implications and such, of what the vet min would be at certain years of experience levels. They do not have 23-24 yet however
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cba/minimum/

Just edited the prior post, for some reason they list a salary for Walsh but don’t include it in the cap total. Not sure why, have to figure that part out.

Yep, I noted that on one of my posts yesterday. That's why I keep mentioning it's 2.2mm in room not 3.3mm. Interestingly they do seem to include it in their 24-25 calculations.

Basically that 2M gap between the salary total and the apron space could either be Walsh/2x two ways, or it could be the unlikely incentives. Or maybe something else. But both of those first pairs of numbers are super close so I’m not sure lol.

[KamikazeK]

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I wonder how many days its been since they've even gotten out of the 2nd round. Maybe the same?

I looked it up and apparently their last ECF appearance was in 2001. That's a lot of days, but I'm not counting them.

[zoyathedestroya]

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I wonder how many days its been since they've even gotten out of the 2nd round. Maybe the same?

I looked it up and apparently their last ECF appearance was in 2001. That's a lot of days, but I'm not counting them.

Semi Ojeleye has played in more conference finals games than the SIxers since he was born.

[JaMarco]

Brown's supermax contract is fully worth it for Boston just so we don't have to hear anymore of those awful Brown trade suggestions.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

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I wonder how many days its been since they've even gotten out of the 2nd round. Maybe the same?

I looked it up and apparently their last ECF appearance was in 2001. That's a lot of days, but I'm not counting them.

Remember that summer when they let Jimmy Butler go and gave 5 years max contracts to Tobias Harris AND Ben Simmons

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I wonder how many days its been since they've even gotten out of the 2nd round. Maybe the same?

I looked it up and apparently their last ECF appearance was in 2001. That's a lot of days, but I'm not counting them.

Remember that summer when they let Jimmy Butler go and gave 5 years max contracts to Tobias Harris AND Ben Simmons

Haha damn I’d be cranky too lol.

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[Smart2Nesmith43]

Trade PP. The guy was openly complaining during the season when we are trying to win a championship. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

What exactly is the issue with Pritchard's statement ? He is a professional basketball player that wants to play professional basketball. It'd be more concerning if he didn't want to, to be honest.

Now sure if he had come out and said I'm better than White/Smart/Brogdon and I deserve more minutes that's a problem because it's both false and damaging to the locker room. But that's not what happened.

[Dogen]

Trade PP. The guy was openly complaining during the season when we are trying to win a championship. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

We need to keep some guys with experience on the team and affordable contract.

If playing time is what he wants, the opportunity is now there with Smart gone. Not that Payton can replace smart, but give him a chance to put his money where his mouth is. If Pritchard ends up being a decent contributor at the end of this season, I will forget all about his kvetching in 2023.

And if you have an idea for better replacement, let's here it. I'm not really super high on Pritchard, honestly, but would not want to give up on him at this point just to see him go full Strus on us when he ends up landing in Miami. He may be ready to turn the corner if Joe will take him off the leash for the early part of the season.

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Trade PP. The guy was openly complaining during the season when we are trying to win a championship. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

What exactly is the issue with Pritchard's statement ? He is a professional basketball player that wants to play professional basketball. It'd be more concerning if he didn't want to, to be honest.

Now sure if he had come out and said I'm better than White/Smart/Brogdon and I deserve more minutes that's a problem because it's both false and damaging to the locker room. But that's not what happened.

He could have just kept his mouth shut and played basketball.

Then, perhaps during the offseason (not right in the middle of the season) go to Brad privately (not publicly in the media) and ask for a trade.

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[Romeiro Celtic]

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I wonder how many days its been since they've even gotten out of the 2nd round. Maybe the same?

I looked it up and apparently their last ECF appearance was in 2001. That's a lot of days, but I'm not counting them.

Somewhere around 8400 days.

[zoyathedestroya]

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So no Dame then? Lol.

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[Hal14]

Across his last 3 postseasons, (2021, 2022, 2023), Austin Rivers has shot 40.3% from 3 (25/62).

He's a vet, he's got playoff experience. He's proven himself in the playoffs, he can get a bucket, either from 3 or by driving it to the basket.

Would not hate it if we signed him to the minimum.

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Looks like Banton is next to request a trade.