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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1541 » by 165bows » Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:47 pm

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
captain green wrote:
captain green wrote:Every player that had more turnovers than brown
Trae Young
Anthony Edwards
Russell Westbrook
Jordan Poole
Nikola Jokic
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Jaden Ivey
Luka Doncic
Domantas Sabonis
Joel Embiid
Julius Randle
Jayson Tatum
Josh Giddey
Ja Morant
Draymond Green
Jalen Green
Paolo Banchero
Dame Lillard (who makes 60 mill at 36)
Darius Garland
Jrue Holiday
Several more had higher to per game but you get the point I hope.
Also Brown has one the highest IQ in any sports it's almost as if you don't know what your typing?
I expect you to say this about Tatum next year since he has more turnovers than brown and a way lower IQ SMH

Oh in about two or so years most of those names on the list will be paid more than brown.


I honestly don't care about other players I'm talking about Brown. Even if all those players mentioned above have more turnovers it doesn't change the fact that brown himself has issues with turnovers.

Brown is extremely intelligent off the court no question but he it isn't that outrageous to say he has a low basketball IQ. He still can't dribble and he still has tunnel vision.

But like I said this is the NBA these days with outrageous salaries and Boston and its fans have to live with brown and hope he improves.

Yeah it’s not so much the total level of turnovers it’s in the context that for his overall level of scoring ability he isn’t that good at creating plays for others.
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Post#1542 » by Deivork » Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:50 pm

Celtics with Brown ain't fun.
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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1543 » by Ben-N1ce » Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:07 pm

captain green wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I think 60 million a year for a guy but can't dribble, is turnover prone, has tunnel vision and has a low basketball IQ is absolutely absurd but this is the NBA.

Every player that had more turnovers than brown
Trae Young
Anthony Edwards
Russell Westbrook
Jordan Poole
Nikola Jokic
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Jaden Ivey
Luka Doncic
Domantas Sabonis
Joel Embiid
Julius Randle
Jayson Tatum
Josh Giddey
Ja Morant
Draymond Green
Jalen Green
Paolo Banchero
Dame Lillard (who makes 60 mill at 36)
Darius Garland
Jrue Holiday
Several more had higher to per game but you get the point I hope.
Also Brown has one the highest IQ in any sports it's almost as if you don't know what your typing?
I expect you to say this about Tatum next year since he has more turnovers than brown and a way lower IQ SMH




Jaylen was 237th in the league in assist to turnover ratio..good stuff.
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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1544 » by Hal14 » Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:32 pm

Ben-N1ce wrote:
captain green wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I think 60 million a year for a guy but can't dribble, is turnover prone, has tunnel vision and has a low basketball IQ is absolutely absurd but this is the NBA.

Every player that had more turnovers than brown
Trae Young
Anthony Edwards
Russell Westbrook
Jordan Poole
Nikola Jokic
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Jaden Ivey
Luka Doncic
Domantas Sabonis
Joel Embiid
Julius Randle
Jayson Tatum
Josh Giddey
Ja Morant
Draymond Green
Jalen Green
Paolo Banchero
Dame Lillard (who makes 60 mill at 36)
Darius Garland
Jrue Holiday
Several more had higher to per game but you get the point I hope.
Also Brown has one the highest IQ in any sports it's almost as if you don't know what your typing?
I expect you to say this about Tatum next year since he has more turnovers than brown and a way lower IQ SMH




Jaylen was 237th in the league in assist to turnover ratio..good stuff.

That statistic really isn't all that relevant unless you're talking about PG's. And even then it's a flawed statistic because some PG's do "assist hunting" rather than actually playing winning basketball, while other PG's who have crazy low turnover numbers do so at the detriment of the team because they're playing ultra-conservatively, not taking as many chances and as a result, missing out on opportunities to get quality shot attempts for their team.

Also, assists are a flawed statistic because a player can't control whether or not their teammates make the shot in after they pass it to them.

JB's job is to score. That and play solid D.
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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1545 » by pac213up » Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:42 pm

Hal14 wrote:JB's job is to score. That and play solid D.


This here cannot be stressed enough. Jaylen's biggest opportunity is not all this turnover/assist stuff, it is to become a more efficient scorer. Shoot the ball a little better, get to the line a little more, make a higher % of free throws.
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Post#1546 » by djFan71 » Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:55 pm

pac213up wrote:
Hal14 wrote:JB's job is to score. That and play solid D.


This here cannot be stressed enough. Jaylen's biggest opportunity is not all this turnover/assist stuff, it is to become a more efficient scorer. Shoot the ball a little better, get to the line a little more, make a higher % of free throws.

I agree that's his ideal job and focus. Unfortunately, it's not how he actually plays.

He plays the creator role a lot and has high usage. If that continues he needs to be better at setting up teammates on at least the simple reads and not coughing the ball up as much. I'd much prefer we change things so he's the play finisher instead and can focus just on that, but that's not what we've been seeing.
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Post#1547 » by pac213up » Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:09 pm

djFan71 wrote:
pac213up wrote:
Hal14 wrote:JB's job is to score. That and play solid D.


This here cannot be stressed enough. Jaylen's biggest opportunity is not all this turnover/assist stuff, it is to become a more efficient scorer. Shoot the ball a little better, get to the line a little more, make a higher % of free throws.

That's his ideal job, not how he actually plays.

He plays the creator role a lot and has high usage. If that continues he needs to be better at setting up teammates on at least the simple reads and not coughing the ball up as much. I'd much prefer we change things so he's the play finisher instead and can focus just on that, but that's not what we've been seeing.


Missed shots are basically turnovers, so I think that is where you get way more bang for your buck with a SG. His usage will drop as long as KP is healthy but you are correct he also needs to make some better decisions at the point of attack.
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Post#1548 » by djFan71 » Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:11 pm

pac213up wrote:
djFan71 wrote:
pac213up wrote:
This here cannot be stressed enough. Jaylen's biggest opportunity is not all this turnover/assist stuff, it is to become a more efficient scorer. Shoot the ball a little better, get to the line a little more, make a higher % of free throws.

That's his ideal job, not how he actually plays.

He plays the creator role a lot and has high usage. If that continues he needs to be better at setting up teammates on at least the simple reads and not coughing the ball up as much. I'd much prefer we change things so he's the play finisher instead and can focus just on that, but that's not what we've been seeing.


Missed shots are basically turnovers, so I think that is where you get way more bang for your buck with a SG. His usage will drop as long as KP is healthy but you are correct he also needs to make some better decisions at the point of attack.

Yeah, I edited to make it clear I agreed with your original post. He definitely has to get his 3% back up and ideally lower the usage.
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Post#1549 » by ryan in Maine » Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:16 pm

exculpatory wrote:
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captain green wrote:Every player that had more turnovers than brown
Trae Young
Anthony Edwards
Russell Westbrook
Jordan Poole
Nikola Jokic
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Jaden Ivey
Luka Doncic
Domantas Sabonis
Joel Embiid
Julius Randle
Jayson Tatum
Josh Giddey
Ja Morant
Draymond Green
Jalen Green
Paolo Banchero
Dame Lillard (who makes 60 mill at 36)
Darius Garland
Jrue Holiday
Several more had higher to per game but you get the point I hope.
Also Brown has one the highest IQ in any sports it's almost as if you don't know what your typing?
I expect you to say this about Tatum next year since he has more turnovers than brown and a way lower IQ SMH


imagine thinking Jaylen Brown has a high IQ and is intelligent. Talking slowly, playing chess and being smart in comparison to the absolute morons in the NBA doesn't mean he has a high IQ

and it's "you're" not your


First time I am endorsing one of your posts I think.

Hopefully, he expands his good works in the Boston community by speaking in front of a few Jewish organizations & sincerely apologizing for his several ignorant, uninformed & immature antisemitic outbursts earlier in the season. I would then be willing to consider forgiving him & calling him JB or Jaylen instead of #7. (I hope he has also had a sincere heart to heart with our Jewish primary owner behind the scenes in this regard.)

And hopefully, he is working as hard he can this summer on his left hand, handle, passing, & court awareness.

JT, Zinger, a very improved #7 in those areas, Derrick, Malcom, Bobby w some offensive moves & Al could definitely win us #18.

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Post#1550 » by Theocy » Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:40 pm

ryan in Maine wrote:
exculpatory wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:
imagine thinking Jaylen Brown has a high IQ and is intelligent. Talking slowly, playing chess and being smart in comparison to the absolute morons in the NBA doesn't mean he has a high IQ

and it's "you're" not your


First time I am endorsing one of your posts I think.

Hopefully, he expands his good works in the Boston community by speaking in front of a few Jewish organizations & sincerely apologizing for his several ignorant, uninformed & immature antisemitic outbursts earlier in the season. I would then be willing to consider forgiving him & calling him JB or Jaylen instead of #7. (I hope he has also had a sincere heart to heart with our Jewish primary owner behind the scenes in this regard.)

And hopefully, he is working as hard he can this summer on his left hand, handle, passing, & court awareness.

JT, Zinger, a very improved #7 in those areas, Derrick, Malcom, Bobby w some offensive moves & Al could definitely win us #18.

You do not speak for Jews.


At the risk of turning this into a cesspit , what are the several comments he made ? I thought that 'energy' insta post was daft but realistically speaking it was shared by an nba channel and he since came out to explain he doesnt support that he didn't realise and apologised.

I don't think he is an super smart individual, I'm not stating he is a moron but still i think I'm missing something here. What did he say that is considered provocative ?
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Post#1551 » by darylbe » Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:43 pm

Can't wait for him to finish top 45 in mvp voting and prove all the haters wrong.
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Post#1552 » by Ben-N1ce » Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:50 pm

djFan71 wrote:
pac213up wrote:
Hal14 wrote:JB's job is to score. That and play solid D.


This here cannot be stressed enough. Jaylen's biggest opportunity is not all this turnover/assist stuff, it is to become a more efficient scorer. Shoot the ball a little better, get to the line a little more, make a higher % of free throws.

I agree that's his ideal job and focus. Unfortunately, it's not how he actually plays.

He plays the creator role a lot and has high usage. If that continues he needs to be better at setting up teammates on at least the simple reads and not coughing the ball up as much. I'd much prefer we change things so he's the play finisher instead and can focus just on that, but that's not what we've been seeing.

Celtics were smart to get KP. They know the team was an abomination if Tatum and white weren't on the floor with Jaylen cuz he ain't that dude that can make his teammates better as offensive #1 option with lesser players.
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Post#1553 » by ryan in Maine » Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:54 pm

Theocy wrote:
ryan in Maine wrote:
exculpatory wrote:
First time I am endorsing one of your posts I think.

Hopefully, he expands his good works in the Boston community by speaking in front of a few Jewish organizations & sincerely apologizing for his several ignorant, uninformed & immature antisemitic outbursts earlier in the season. I would then be willing to consider forgiving him & calling him JB or Jaylen instead of #7. (I hope he has also had a sincere heart to heart with our Jewish primary owner behind the scenes in this regard.)

And hopefully, he is working as hard he can this summer on his left hand, handle, passing, & court awareness.

JT, Zinger, a very improved #7 in those areas, Derrick, Malcom, Bobby w some offensive moves & Al could definitely win us #18.

You do not speak for Jews.


At the risk of turning this into a cesspit , what are the several comments he made ? I thought that 'energy' insta post was daft but realistically speaking it was shared by an nba channel and he since came out to explain he doesnt support that he didn't realise and apologised.

I don't think he is an super smart individual, I'm not stating he is a moron but still i think I'm missing something here. What did he say that is considered provocative ?

JB said/did nothing wrong. He made a young man mistake, and as you likely know, he did explain what happened and clarified his stance. A few conservative/ultraorthodox Jews call JB/JB's retweet/defense of Kyrie and Donda/lack of acceptable apology antisemitic. I can't speak for other posters, but ime US Jews have forgiven JB (and Kyrie) and moved on. My synagogue discussed it as part of a larger discussion of antisemitism in media and film and the consensus was that JB made a young man mistake and is certainly not antisemitic. New England and Maritime Jews are rooting for JB to have a great season and help bring us a title.
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Post#1554 » by BostonCouchGM » Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:44 pm

I think if people could hear Kyrie and Jaylen behind the scenes talking about these touchy subjects they wouldn't be so quick to defend him. I have a sneaking suspicion they hate most white people in general no matter the religion but especially Jewish people.
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Post#1555 » by shackles10 » Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:54 pm

I don’t think anyone in this forum has been a fly on the wall for any of those conversations so let’s just end it here before it gets ugly.
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Post#1556 » by 165bows » Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:56 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:I think if people could hear Kyrie and Jaylen behind the scenes talking about these touchy subjects they wouldn't be so quick to defend him. I have a sneaking suspicion they hate most white people in general no matter the religion but especially Jewish people.

I think if most people knew what the scene was like at Cal-Berkeley these days they'd find it a little unusual.
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Post#1557 » by exculpatory » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:52 am

ryan in Maine wrote:
exculpatory wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:
imagine thinking Jaylen Brown has a high IQ and is intelligent. Talking slowly, playing chess and being smart in comparison to the absolute morons in the NBA doesn't mean he has a high IQ

and it's "you're" not your


First time I am endorsing one of your posts I think.

Hopefully, he expands his good works in the Boston community by speaking in front of a few Jewish organizations & sincerely apologizing for his several ignorant, uninformed & immature antisemitic outbursts earlier in the season. I would then be willing to consider forgiving him & calling him JB or Jaylen instead of #7. (I hope he has also had a sincere heart to heart with our Jewish primary owner behind the scenes in this regard.)

And hopefully, he is working as hard he can this summer on his left hand, handle, passing, & court awareness.

JT, Zinger, a very improved #7 in those areas, Derrick, Malcom, Bobby w some offensive moves & Al could definitely win us #18.


You do not speak for Jews.


I sure as **** speak for myself, multiple friends & my cousin, a Reform Rabbi.
IDNGAF what your synagogue consensus was.
His behavior was beyond repulsively antisemitic.
**** “a young man’s mistake/ABJECT IGNORANCE.”

I would be happy to see links documenting his REPEATED & UNEQUIVOCALLY SINCERE apologies to any Jewish community anywhere. That might make me rethink my stance.
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Post#1558 » by Parliament10 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:42 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:I think if people could hear Kyrie and Jaylen behind the scenes talking about these touchy subjects they wouldn't be so quick to defend him. I have a sneaking suspicion they hate most white people in general no matter the religion but especially Jewish people.

Your posts lately are blatantly Racist. And you just received an Unofficial Warning, the other day for it.
This is a Basketball Forum. Post that stuff somewhere else.

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Post#1559 » by Parliament10 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:47 pm

exculpatory wrote:
ryan in Maine wrote:
exculpatory wrote:
First time I am endorsing one of your posts I think.

Hopefully, he expands his good works in the Boston community by speaking in front of a few Jewish organizations & sincerely apologizing for his several ignorant, uninformed & immature antisemitic outbursts earlier in the season. I would then be willing to consider forgiving him & calling him JB or Jaylen instead of #7. (I hope he has also had a sincere heart to heart with our Jewish primary owner behind the scenes in this regard.)

And hopefully, he is working as hard he can this summer on his left hand, handle, passing, & court awareness.

JT, Zinger, a very improved #7 in those areas, Derrick, Malcom, Bobby w some offensive moves & Al could definitely win us #18.


You do not speak for Jews.


I sure as **** speak for myself, multiple friends & my cousin, a Reform Rabbi.
IDNGAF what your synagogue consensus was.
His behavior was beyond repulsively antisemitic.
**** “a young man’s mistake/ABJECT IGNORANCE.”

I would be happy to see links documenting his REPEATED & UNEQUIVOCALLY SINCERE apologies to any Jewish community anywhere. That might make me rethink my stance.

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Post#1560 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:51 pm

Not sure how much more support JB can show the Jewish community. The name of his brand is already a homonym.

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