Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 5

blastttOFF · Post #1641 » by **blastttOFF** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:25 pm

14/6/5 season incoming

HumbleRen · Post #1642 » by **HumbleRen** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:27 pm

Scottie's name is in the mud.

Damn.

DAcReator · Post #1643 » by **DAcReator** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:47 pm

Scotties videos making me optimistic that we’re on our way to Cooper Flagg!

alpngso · Post #1644 » by **alpngso** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:53 pm

Scottie is the future

Inevitable · Post #1645 » by **Inevitable** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:55 pm

Confiscate the tape and trade him for Dame I’ve seen enough

KP730 · Post #1646 » by **KP730** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:59 pm

The only thing more meaningless than performance in preseason games is performance in summer runs

tripa · Post #1647 » by **tripa** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:59 pm

Hes just saving his energy for the 4th quarter of very specific games next season

Madvillainy2004 · Post #1648 » by **Madvillainy2004** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:01 pm

I don't put much or any stock into offseason videos. But that looked pretty rough lol I just don't see how this offense is gonna work. I have no idea how you build even a decent (top 15) half court offense with Scottie/Pascal/Poeltl/Dennis playing big minutes. Thats like 2-4 3s combined most nights from 4 of the top 8 in the rotation.

canada_dry · Post #1649 » by **canada_dry** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:23 pm

Thaddy wrote:Barnes is a better passer than Giannis, LeBron or anyone on that list. He had lower usage and the worst possible shooting you can imagine. If we want to maximize him and Siakam we need to make him the first option and add great movement shooters at our guard positions because OG and Trent aren't frankly good enough on offense.

Edit: nvm. Most others already pointed out the ridiculousness lol

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tripa · Post #1650 » by **tripa** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:25 pm

His first step is legitimately horrible. We need the jumpshot to develop badly

Somebody report that video and get it taken down pls

tripa · Post #1651 » by **tripa** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:33 pm

That mom on the baseline tho

720 · Post #1652 » by **720** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:49 pm

I remember when High School Senior Marvin Bagley was outplaying Demar in a Drew League game or something. Maybe summer runs are his calling.

TheGeneral99 · Post #1653 » by **TheGeneral99** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:53 pm

720 wrote:I remember when High School Senior Marvin Bagley was outplaying Demar in a Drew League game or something. Maybe summer runs are his calling.

Well anyone that played high-level sports knows there are some dudes that are absolute studs in practice or scrimmage games, but disappear in real games. On the other hand, there are dudes that don't impress you at all in practice, but are entirely different in a real game.

HumbleRen · Post #1654 » by **HumbleRen** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:53 pm

720 wrote:I remember when High School Senior Marvin Bagley was outplaying Demar in a Drew League game or something. Maybe summer runs are his calling.

This is 1 on 1 though, not a pick up game.

Demar would obliterate Bagley in a 1v1 setting lol.

Dalek · Post #1655 » by **Dalek** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:56 pm

Here are Scottie's misses in this recent session:

Read on Twitter

I think Scottie is not really built to be an ISO scorer. I trust him more in close and being more of a PF who can win a lot of match-ups because he can get the defender with his footwork, big body, and jumphook.

On the perimeter he just seems really predetermined when he gets the ball. He doesn't have any meaningful shot fake, and he doesn't dribble well-enough to create space - I didn't see any attempts at a stepback. Probably because he is not a good enough shooter and needs to be on balance to hits his jumper. He also has a pretty slow release.

Honestly, I think guards look great in this type of format, but the NBA is a team game and Scottie's best suited in a team/5on5 construct. Scottie is great at reading the game and managing fastbreaks rather than having sets where he would have a clear out. He will need a lot of time to grow in that area.

Overall, I was impressed with his size and quickness. He looks a bit springier than last season.

brownbobcat · Post #1656 » by **brownbobcat** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:45 pm

Dalek wrote:Here are Scottie's misses in this recent session:

I think Scottie is not really built to be an ISO scorer. I trust him more in close and being more of a PF who can win a lot of match-ups because he can get the defender with his footwork, big body, and jumphook.

On the perimeter he just seems really predetermined when he gets the ball. He doesn't have any meaningful shot fake, and he doesn't dribble well-enough to create space - I didn't see any attempts at a stepback. Probably because he is not a good enough shooter and needs to be on balance to hits his jumper. He also has a pretty slow release.

Honestly, I think guards look great in this type of format, but the NBA is a team game and Scottie's best suited in a team/5on5 construct. Scottie is great at reading the game and managing fastbreaks rather than having sets where he would have a clear out. He will need a lot of time to grow in that area.

Overall, I was impressed with his size and quickness. He looks a bit springier than last season.

Let's list the qualities that make a good iso-scorer: first step, footwork, handle, change-of-direction, balance, pull-up J, creativity, strength. He's got maybe 2 of those things.

tripa · Post #1657 » by **tripa** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:52 pm

brownbobcat wrote:
Dalek wrote:Here are Scottie's misses in this recent session:

I think Scottie is not really built to be an ISO scorer. I trust him more in close and being more of a PF who can win a lot of match-ups because he can get the defender with his footwork, big body, and jumphook.

On the perimeter he just seems really predetermined when he gets the ball. He doesn't have any meaningful shot fake, and he doesn't dribble well-enough to create space - I didn't see any attempts at a stepback. Probably because he is not a good enough shooter and needs to be on balance to hits his jumper. He also has a pretty slow release.

Honestly, I think guards look great in this type of format, but the NBA is a team game and Scottie's best suited in a team/5on5 construct. Scottie is great at reading the game and managing fastbreaks rather than having sets where he would have a clear out. He will need a lot of time to grow in that area.

Overall, I was impressed with his size and quickness. He looks a bit springier than last season.

Let's list the qualities that make a good iso-scorer: first step, footwork, handle, change-of-direction, balance, pull-up J, creativity, strength. He's got maybe 2 of those things.

Whats the 2nd one after strength? Im struggling to choose.

brownbobcat · Post #1658 » by **brownbobcat** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:55 pm

tripa wrote:
brownbobcat wrote:Let's list the qualities that make a good iso-scorer: first step, footwork, handle, change-of-direction, balance, pull-up J, creativity, strength. He's got maybe 2 of those things.

Whats the 2nd one after strength? Im struggling to choose.

He does have touch (which I didn't list) and flashes of creativity, but the former is hard to utilize without a strong base of footwork and ballhandling.

sbsat · Post #1659 » by **sbsat** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:56 pm

These are scrimmages yes but theres no doubt that his main weakness -- shooting -- still looks awful. He was bricking shots in the 1-1 sessions. The offseason is long tho let him cook

tripa · Post #1660 » by **tripa** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:02 pm

“He just has to learn how to shoot, dribble, and defend. No big deal, let him cook!” - This forum