Miami heat Official off-season thread 10.0 ITS ABOUT DAME TIME, The one where we actually land Dame this time

[DiegoChara]

Lillard's agent should have pushed for the clause. He dropped the ball if he didn't. And if he did and the Blazers said no, then that should have set off every alarm.

They trusted Portland to continue to build around him and they lied to him, this is the only reason he wants to leave. This is something that could really change the NBA, I would expect there will be an uptick in NTC requests.

This too is Dame's fault. Imagine trusting Portland to build a winner around you lmao. Since they have such a long track record of doing so.

There’s been a ton of very justifiable criticism of the Blazers organizational failures the last 5 years or so.

We’re down bad, but I just want to put it on the record that it’s not a joke of a franchise. We’re not talking about the Hornets or the Timberwolves here.
7th best winning % all time.

[powerball1373]

The NBA basically called out Mr Loyalty, Mr Run from the Grind and like expected he folded and put out faster than a Hialeah chick when you show up with flowers. Talk about completely overplaying ones hand. No one expects Dame to sit out, so now the inevitable will happen and the list of teams will grow exponentially.

Our problem is two fold. We have some here who swear we have the best offer, that will be seen very quickly one way or the other. The bigger issue is we are looking at possible tampering penalties. Remember Mr Loyatly has screen shots and all the evidence in the world here, and we are all seeing what loyalty means to him. He won't care if we have to trade 5 unprotected picks into 2030's to get a deal done. The inability to go all in to preserve future trades might easily gets neutralized with tampering penalties we can get.

[dean456]

Dame should come out and say its either PHX or MIA and say there you go my list is bigger now.

Dame for Ayton makes way more sense than Dame for Herro if the Blazers don't value the Heats picks/young players.

PHX only available salaries to trade are Ayton, Durant and Booker. Money doesn't work straight up with Ayton and they have zero FRPs, only 6 2nd rounders. So unless PHX are willing to trade KD or Booker somewhere else for more assets then there's no way that trade is happening.

[IceColdCubano]

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So a couple of notes on my end. This could have come from a FO not even capable of being part of a trade for Lillard. Like Dallas or Boston, or Milwaukee. A contender whos pissed they could find themselves outside the title odds.

Additionally it may have been Portland themselves bitching at Adam silver that the reason thwy arent getting offers is because of Lillards sopposed threats. They arw super pissed Miami has zero incentive to up their offers at all and will be forced to go sell at 30 cents on the dollar. This was their last ditch effort to maybe get another team to force Miami to up their offer.

If the trade happens shortly they can now play this off as hey other teams finally made some offers once NBA clarified Lillards stance and Miami went all in finally.

This will show us how badly Our FO wants Lillard. Knowing Riley chances are he will fight fire with fire and hold his ground and keep the offer the same.

[powerball1373]

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So a couple of notes on my end. This could have come from a FO not even capable of being part of a trade for Lillard. Like Dallas or Boston, or Milwaukee. A contender whos pissed they could find themselves outside the title odds.

Additionally it may have been Portland themselves bitching at Adam silver that the reason thwy arent getting offers is because of Lillards sopposed threats. They arw super pissed Miami has zero incentive to up their offers at all and will be forced to go sell at 30 cents on the dollar. This was their last ditch effort to maybe get another team to force Miami to up their offer.

If the trade happens shortly they can now play this off as hey other teams finally made some offers once NBA clarified Lillards stance and Miami went all in finally.

This will show us how badly Our FO wants Lillard. Knowing Riley chances are he will fight fire with fire and hold his ground and keep the offer the same.

I don't think it came from any one team, or even teams, in particular. I think NBA ownership as a whole realized they had to draw a line somewhere before every star, or fringe star, thinks they can create their own no-trade clause by doing the same thing.

[IceColdCubano]

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So a couple of notes on my end. This could have come from a FO not even capable of being part of a trade for Lillard. Like Dallas or Boston, or Milwaukee. A contender whos pissed they could find themselves outside the title odds.

Additionally it may have been Portland themselves bitching at Adam silver that the reason thwy arent getting offers is because of Lillards sopposed threats. They arw super pissed Miami has zero incentive to up their offers at all and will be forced to go sell at 30 cents on the dollar. This was their last ditch effort to maybe get another team to force Miami to up their offer.

If the trade happens shortly they can now play this off as hey other teams finally made some offers once NBA clarified Lillards stance and Miami went all in finally.

This will show us how badly Our FO wants Lillard. Knowing Riley chances are he will fight fire with fire and hold his ground and keep the offer the same.

I don't think it came from any one team, or even teams, in particular. I think NBA ownership as a whole realized they had to draw a line somewhere before every star, or fringe star, thinks they can create their own no-trade clause by doing the same thing.

So why do it with Lillard and not a repeat offender like James Harden?!?!?!

Sounds like a bias and a direct shot at Lillard. The NBA could have included James Harden in the memo aswell, theres a forceful nature about this directed at one of the most loyal players.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

People saying the mods asleep at the wheel.

Motherphuckers I was asleep. It was after 1am

At least you can put your pride to the side and admit it brother, glad to have you back

[3ammy3uck3ts]

They trusted Portland to continue to build around him and they lied to him, this is the only reason he wants to leave. This is something that could really change the NBA, I would expect there will be an uptick in NTC requests.

This too is Dame's fault. Imagine trusting Portland to build a winner around you lmao. Since they have such a long track record of doing so.

There’s been a ton of very justifiable criticism of the Blazers organizational failures the last 5 years or so.

We’re down bad, but I just want to put it on the record that it’s not a joke of a franchise. We’re not talking about the Hornets or the Timberwolves here.
7th best winning % all time.

Y’all are doing your franchise goat absolutely dirty right now; hate to see it

[AirP.]

They trusted Portland to continue to build around him and they lied to him, this is the only reason he wants to leave. This is something that could really change the NBA, I would expect there will be an uptick in NTC requests.

This too is Dame's fault. Imagine trusting Portland to build a winner around you lmao. Since they have such a long track record of doing so.

There’s been a ton of very justifiable criticism of the Blazers organizational failures the last 5 years or so.

We’re down bad, but I just want to put it on the record that it’s not a joke of a franchise. We’re not talking about the Hornets or the Timberwolves here.
7th best winning % all time.

Yes, Portland has found ways to not continue to be bad even with huge losses in the last 10-15 years like injuries to Roy and Oden.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Preparing himself for Miami conditioning. Bam/Luka/Tatum big 3 era will be a movie

[IceColdCubano]

People saying the mods asleep at the wheel.

Motherphuckers I was asleep. It was after 1am

At least you can put your pride to the side and admit it brother, glad to have you back

Yeah yeah another Mod asleep at the wheel as usual....

[Rapaz]

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[powerball1373]

So a couple of notes on my end. This could have come from a FO not even capable of being part of a trade for Lillard. Like Dallas or Boston, or Milwaukee. A contender whos pissed they could find themselves outside the title odds.

Additionally it may have been Portland themselves bitching at Adam silver that the reason thwy arent getting offers is because of Lillards sopposed threats. They arw super pissed Miami has zero incentive to up their offers at all and will be forced to go sell at 30 cents on the dollar. This was their last ditch effort to maybe get another team to force Miami to up their offer.

If the trade happens shortly they can now play this off as hey other teams finally made some offers once NBA clarified Lillards stance and Miami went all in finally.

This will show us how badly Our FO wants Lillard. Knowing Riley chances are he will fight fire with fire and hold his ground and keep the offer the same.

I don't think it came from any one team, or even teams, in particular. I think NBA ownership as a whole realized they had to draw a line somewhere before every star, or fringe star, thinks they can create their own no-trade clause by doing the same thing.

So why do it with Lillard and not a repeat offender like James Harden?!?!?!

Sounds like a bias and a direct shot at Lillard. The NBA could have included James Harden in the memo aswell, theres a forceful nature about this directed at one of the most loyal players.

I haven't kept up with the Harden thing as much, but has he been as blatant about it? Like has his agent told people he'd refuse to play for them? There's a fine line between 'preferred destination' and 'I won't play for anyone else'.

[Flash4thewin]

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So a couple of notes on my end. This could have come from a FO not even capable of being part of a trade for Lillard. Like Dallas or Boston, or Milwaukee. A contender whos pissed they could find themselves outside the title odds.

Additionally it may have been Portland themselves bitching at Adam silver that the reason thwy arent getting offers is because of Lillards sopposed threats. They arw super pissed Miami has zero incentive to up their offers at all and will be forced to go sell at 30 cents on the dollar. This was their last ditch effort to maybe get another team to force Miami to up their offer.

If the trade happens shortly they can now play this off as hey other teams finally made some offers once NBA clarified Lillards stance and Miami went all in finally.

This will show us how badly Our FO wants Lillard. Knowing Riley chances are he will fight fire with fire and hold his ground and keep the offer the same.

Let's play this out logically. Say Pat holds his ground, that means Dame is going to get destroyed. That means Dame will add more teams and end the saga, but now you have pissed off Mr Loyalty who does have screen shots. All Dame has to do is fire his agent, the agent will fall on the sword and then cooperate (vengefully) or leak things and we will be hit hard with tampering. It does feel like a no win situation, damed if you do damed if you dont. Honestly it's in our best interest to just throw the bank, the blank check and let Portland get what they want so we get Dame vs getting hit with a punitive tampering fine.

[batterybro42]

I don’t want to hear anybody talking down on Pat or the front office if this doesn’t get done

The NBA and the media has taken a clear stance

I am not sure why Miami being really good is a problem for both but it clearly is. This is a true bias from the league and it’s completely BS. These types of things have been happening with players for years, but now that it is Miami there is a problem.

[AirP.]

I do hope Lillard makes a public statement when he's done vacationing that he wants to stay in Portland but if he were to leave Miami and San Antonio would be organizations he'd want to play for because if Lillard is traded elsewhere, it's highly possible he'll be traded again if they don't win a championship in a year or 2. I'm not so sure he wants to end up having to deal with what CP3 has been dealing with going from Houston to OKC to Phoenix to GS.

[AirP.]

I don’t want to hear anybody taking down on Pat or the front office if this doesn’t get done

The NBA and the media has taken a clear stance

I am not sure why Miami being really good is a problem for both but it clearly is. This is a true bias from the league and it’s completely BS. These types of things have been happening with players for years, but now that it is Miami there is a problem.

I've been against the FO for not doing anything, I'm fine with this situation and not overpaying and Miami not getting Lillard but this FO needs to pivot before the deadline and get a proven consistent playoff scorer or 2 for a deep playoff run. What is nice is that this roster is actually better than last years opening day roster already.

[MorbidHEAT]

The feeling of Dame never, ever wearing a White mashup jersey is starting to creep back up.

[IceColdCubano]

This was always a 50/50 shot now its creeping down to 25/75. In the next couple days others team offers will come out and Boom well be left in the dust.

[wadenation305]

I really don't think Portland thought this through, If they say "yea we would trade you to a good team that you will have a BETTER chance at winning a ring and doing right by you, and not just trade you to whatever scrub team for the highest thing possible" What do you think that return looks like? Do you really think Boston is going to give you Brown? nope, they'd want to add him to Brown and Tatum, not trade one of them for Lillard. Philly? How would Harden make sense to Portland? They don't want to give up Maxey, but I can see a world where they would, but to this point, they've balked at the idea. And Brooklyn is actively trying to help us facilitate the trade to Miami. The only way you get a crazy haul is to trade him to a bad team. And then you run into the problem of "Does it make sense for that team to do that trade?"

Don't get me wrong we should not completely rob them. Herro, Lowry one of Jovic or Jaime, and 3 picks. That is a super fair deal.