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Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . .

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#401 » by 165bows » Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:40 pm

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Hal14 wrote:All of that is true. But what do you do with Kornet? As of now, he has a contract for this season with Boston. Garuba and Griffin do not.

Not sure the exact structure of Kornet's deal, but I think a portion of his contract has already been guaranteed which would mean he's unlikely to get waived. Brad loves Kornet and he's been with the team for 2.5 years now. So yeah, I don't see him getting waived. And no one is likely to want to trade for him. Perhaps he could be included as filler in a deal, but what deal would that be?


2022-23: $100,000 guaranteed, $300,000 guaranted on 8/15/22, $1,066,639 guaranteed Opening Night, fully guaranteed on 1/10/23

I could argue that he wouldn't be a guy that definitely gets signed elsewhere if waived. But the challenging issue is whether they willingly go into (possible, but not likely) 2nd apron territory to start the year. But that might factor into signing Blake anyway as I imagine his vet minimum number will be higher than Kornet's contract value. Unless they cut Champagnie and just leave 15th spot open but that doesn't seem likely they would just drop a wing without replacing.


Why wouldn't Blake accept true vet minimum and hence let the Celts get the salary and cap subsidies that go with that?

I can't think of a reason, unless he chooses to retire outright, which he well might if his non-sporadic playing days are over.

Don’t the various vet mins count the same?
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#402 » by ryan in Maine » Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:47 pm

Kornet is super underrated around here.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#403 » by return2glory » Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:57 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Somewhere Deuce cries...

Read on Twitter


Wow. Hope that's not true. Tatum needs to stay away.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#404 » by MaxwellSmart » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:00 pm

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bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Somewhere Deuce cries...

Read on Twitter


Wow. Hope that's not true. Tatum needs to stay away.


Horrible Photoshop, ha
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#405 » by return2glory » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:04 pm

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return2glory wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Somewhere Deuce cries...

Read on Twitter


Wow. Hope that's not true. Tatum needs to stay away.


Horrible Photoshop, ha


Yup, it looks photoshopped. Tatum looks shorter than her in that photo.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#406 » by Floody100 » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:17 pm

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return2glory wrote:
Wow. Hope that's not true. Tatum needs to stay away.


Horrible Photoshop, ha


Yup, it looks photoshopped. Tatum looks shorter than her in that photo.


It’s Bad Bunny guys :lol:
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#407 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:38 pm

return2glory wrote:
MaxwellSmart wrote:
return2glory wrote:
Wow. Hope that's not true. Tatum needs to stay away.


Horrible Photoshop, ha


Yup, it looks photoshopped. Tatum looks shorter than her in that photo.


Good point!

Also, it's from what is generally a parody Twitter account.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#408 » by GotDaSauce » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:44 pm

Floody100 wrote:
return2glory wrote:
MaxwellSmart wrote:
Horrible Photoshop, ha


Yup, it looks photoshopped. Tatum looks shorter than her in that photo.


It’s Bad Bunny guys :lol:


How it took this long for anyone to realize this either shows we are all old or just out of touch! :lol:


Btw he is dating the singer Ella Mai.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#409 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:54 pm

GotDaSauce wrote:
Floody100 wrote:
return2glory wrote:
Yup, it looks photoshopped. Tatum looks shorter than her in that photo.


It’s Bad Bunny guys :lol:


How it took this long for anyone to realize this either shows we are all old or just out of touch! :lol:


Btw he is dating the singer Ella Mai.

This Ella Mai lady isn’t a Kardashian, right? (I don’t watch Living with the Kardashians nor do I get their newsletters.)
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#410 » by Dogen » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:59 pm

ryan in Maine wrote:Kornet is super underrated around here.


So true. Send him and a second rounder to OKC for Usman Garuba and he'll feel more appreciated there amongst the 7'2" guys.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#411 » by Hal14 » Sun Jul 30, 2023 12:09 am

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Somewhere Deuce cries...

Read on Twitter

Does this blurry photo that could be of anyone, could have been photoshopped and was posted by buttcrack sports really need to go in the trade/free agency thread?
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#412 » by zoyathedestroya » Sun Jul 30, 2023 12:11 am

Hal14 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Somewhere Deuce cries...

Read on Twitter

Does this blurry photo that could be of anyone, could have been photoshopped and was posted by buttcrack sports really need to go in the trade/free agency thread?

bigfoot never misses.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#413 » by zoyathedestroya » Sun Jul 30, 2023 12:33 am

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#414 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:34 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
GotDaSauce wrote:
Floody100 wrote:
It’s Bad Bunny guys :lol:


How it took this long for anyone to realize this either shows we are all old or just out of touch! :lol:


Btw he is dating the singer Ella Mai.

This Ella Mai lady isn’t a Kardashian, right? (I don’t watch Living with the Kardashians nor do I get their newsletters.)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ella_Mai
https://sidelinesources.com/nba/full-breakdown-of-the-relationship-between-jayson-tatum-and-ella-mai/

(The latter does not seem to have been written by a human being -- at least not a literate native speaker of English -- but it seems pretty coherent even so.)
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#415 » by shackles10 » Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:16 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
GotDaSauce wrote:
Floody100 wrote:
It’s Bad Bunny guys :lol:


How it took this long for anyone to realize this either shows we are all old or just out of touch! :lol:


Btw he is dating the singer Ella Mai.

This Ella Mai lady isn’t a Kardashian, right? (I don’t watch Living with the Kardashians nor do I get their newsletters.)


The newsletters part made this my favorite post of the day.
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Post#416 » by The Corey's » Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:53 am

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Hal14 wrote:Wrong. The contract is for guys who made all-NBA team, are still with the team that drafted them and are eligible for their next contract extension after their rookie extension.

That's it. That's the criteria. JB met the criteria so he gets the contract - cry about it.

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Wrong. Brown does not meet the criteria as highest paid player in NBA history.

Good thing he won’t ever be the actual highest paid player.



Is it a good thing that he'll never be worth the contract? Cause he never will be.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#417 » by The Corey's » Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:57 am

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Hal14 wrote:Wrong. The contract is for guys who made all-NBA team, are still with the team that drafted them and are eligible for their next contract extension after their rookie extension.

That's it. That's the criteria. JB met the criteria so he gets the contract - cry about it.

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Wrong. Brown does not meet the criteria as highest paid player in NBA history.


He was eligible for the max and he signed it. The fact that it’s the highest in nba history is a bit of stars aligning for that and it’s disingenuous for people to continue to throw this out there. It’s giving people the impression the Celtics were willing to pay him this money and other teams haven’t been willing to pay their stars accordingly. But still your argument says that he doesn’t meet the criteria and he does in fact do so. This isn’t saying he’s the best player in NBA history or even top 5 in the league right now.

The super max has issues that can be debated and they are. If you’d rather we traded him that’s fine and a different discussion but there wasn’t a lot of choice here. You don’t sign him to this deal he leaves in a year and gets a max elsewhere. Wouldn’t be the same max as this for obvious reasons.



You know you can say on one hand he's not worth the money and he's never gonna bring the value to the team compared to how much he's making while also saying the Celtics HAD to bow to Brown and give him every penny.

Brown wasn't leaving a super max on the table and wasn't accepting anything less than the supermax because that's how the NBA works.

It doesn't mean he's a supermax talent and it certainly doesn't mean that come 2025 when him and Tatum are both on the supermax and on year 4 of the repeater tax that **** isn't gonna hit the fan when fans realize they have literally no cap to improve the team and no assets to aquire any because Brown has to be making 50 million dollars a year to have more turnovers than assist in the playoffs.

Both of these things can be true. And they are.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#418 » by La Flame » Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:30 am

Dogen wrote:
ryan in Maine wrote:Kornet is super underrated around here.


So true. Send him and a second rounder to OKC for Usman Garuba and he'll feel more appreciated there amongst the 7'2" guys.


Cold :lol: I don't ever get the Kornet fascination though. Dude's a complete stiff
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#419 » by La Flame » Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:31 am

I'd take Greg Stiemsma over Kornet all day.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#420 » by poopship » Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:51 am

165bows wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:
darrendaye wrote:
2022-23: $100,000 guaranteed, $300,000 guaranted on 8/15/22, $1,066,639 guaranteed Opening Night, fully guaranteed on 1/10/23

I could argue that he wouldn't be a guy that definitely gets signed elsewhere if waived. But the challenging issue is whether they willingly go into (possible, but not likely) 2nd apron territory to start the year. But that might factor into signing Blake anyway as I imagine his vet minimum number will be higher than Kornet's contract value. Unless they cut Champagnie and just leave 15th spot open but that doesn't seem likely they would just drop a wing without replacing.


Why wouldn't Blake accept true vet minimum and hence let the Celts get the salary and cap subsidies that go with that?

I can't think of a reason, unless he chooses to retire outright, which he well might if his non-sporadic playing days are over.

Don’t the various vet mins count the same?


Yes

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