2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation 3 - Post Free Agency Discussion

[bigfoot]

I've been hesitant on Point Beal but was reading a Washington blog and they had this game mentioned.

Beal had 27 points, 17 assists playing PG when Dinwiddie was out.

Looks more comfortable in that role that I would have thought.

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A big key is his ability drive to get to the hoop. CP3 lost that last season and would only settle for the mid-range shot. His legs just could not elevate for that play at the end of the games.

Beal attacking the basket and finding open three point shooters or bigs on the pick-n-roll looked pretty good in that clip. I will say the stats guys where pretty generous on some of those assists.

[sunsbum]

I've been hesitant on Point Beal but was reading a Washington blog and they had this game mentioned.

Beal had 27 points, 17 assists playing PG when Dinwiddie was out.

Looks more comfortable in that role that I would have thought.

Watch on YouTube

A big key is his ability drive to get to the hoop. CP3 lost that last season and would only settle for the mid-range shot. His legs just could not elevate for that play at the end of the games.

Beal attacking the basket and finding open three point shooters or bigs on the pick-n-roll looked pretty good in that clip. I will say the stats guys where pretty generous on some of those assists.

I went back and watched some highlights from the finals and man, CP looks like a completely different player, he lost like 5 steps and 15 inches off his 16 inch vert.

[SunsRback4Good]

Why do the fans have to wait half a year for a new season to begin? This is unreal the season should start 2-3 months after the last one ends. I say we fans should petition until the owners & commissioner comply.

[wheezy]

What do we think? Seems like these are the new jerseys for this year

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Hopefully Ishbia also spends for a better brand design department.

You gotta know he personally approved these, right?

I think they're pretty cool. Not amazing, but pretty cool.

I've always thought that since Suns are stars, we should have an alt black/purple jersey design that featured a bunch of stars in the background. Also thought we should try an alt with pink in addition to purple and orange in a sunset design.

But yeah - those classic sunbursts ought to be our default jerseys that stick around forever the way the Bulls, Celtics and Lakers jerseys have stayed the same for so long. They're classic.

These would have had to have been approved before he bought the team. The design slate for jerseys is planned out about a year in advance so Nike has time to produce them and get all marketing together.

[enigmatics]

Why do the fans have to wait half a year for a new season to begin? This is unreal the season should start 2-3 months after the last one ends. I say we fans should petition until the owners & commissioner comply.

Bro these guys need to rest their bodies - especially the teams who make the playoffs.

[sunsbg]

Why do the fans have to wait half a year for a new season to begin? This is unreal the season should start 2-3 months after the last one ends. I say we fans should petition until the owners & commissioner comply.

Bro these guys need to rest their bodies - especially the teams who make the playoffs.

The question still stands. Can't they extend the season a bit, get rid of B2Bs maybe and have a shorter break. Soccer in EU for example has month and a half break, there is no such half a year disconnect with fans.

[Calvin Klein]

It is basically 3 months. July August and September. Pre season starts in October.

[sunsbg]

It is basically 3 months. July August and September. Pre season starts in October.

If you are non-playoffs team it's pretty much half a year break. Those preseason games are meaningless with 82 games load managed season.

[Saberestar]

Why do the fans have to wait half a year for a new season to begin? This is unreal the season should start 2-3 months after the last one ends. I say we fans should petition until the owners & commissioner comply.

Bro these guys need to rest their bodies - especially the teams who make the playoffs.

The question still stands. Can't they extend the season a bit, get rid of B2Bs maybe and have a shorter break. Soccer in EU for example has month and a half break, there is no such half a year disconnect with fans.

The NBA has been ultra successful for decades with that schedule and some fans want to change it? Not happening and for a good reason.

[sunsbg]

Bro these guys need to rest their bodies - especially the teams who make the playoffs.

The question still stands. Can't they extend the season a bit, get rid of B2Bs maybe and have a shorter break. Soccer in EU for example has month and a half break, there is no such half a year disconnect with fans.

The NBA has been ultra successful for decades with that schedule and some fans want to change it? Not happening and for a good reason.

Yes, why not. I'm more surprised a superfan like you is fine waiting half a year for real action. And it's not like NBA is not trying to improve fan experience with introducing play in and now some stupid midseason tournament.

[Saberestar]

The question still stands. Can't they extend the season a bit, get rid of B2Bs maybe and have a shorter break. Soccer in EU for example has month and a half break, there is no such half a year disconnect with fans.

The NBA has been ultra successful for decades with that schedule and some fans want to change it? Not happening and for a good reason.

Yes, why not. I'm more surprised a superfan like you is fine waiting half a year for real action. And it's not like NBA is not trying to improve fan experience with introducing play in and now some stupid midseason tournament.

I dedicate too much time to the NBA and I love it but I really like that they don't play for about half of the year and I can concentrate myself on other things. Balance.

[lilfishi22]

I think the product would dilute itself if it was running nearly all year round. The long NBA season already has massive lulls of interests during certain months of the roughly 6-8month calendar. Eg if you're one of the 50% of the NBA who won't play basketball beyond the regular season, then you'll likely only have transient interest in the playoffs (unless you gamble or you're hardcore). The post-ASW period can be a real flip of a coin in terms of likely fan interests as it consists of a bunch of teams on different pathways of either load management ahead of the playoffs, tanking or fighting to stay in the playoff picture. Jan and Feb tend to be a bit of a quiet period as well after the holiday month of December and not a ton happening until ASW. Essentially, no matter how long the season is, whether you stretch it to 9 months or keep it where it is, there will be lulls in the season and the longer the season, the longer the lulls.

To me, I think where it's at right now is fine. I personally prefer more games per week than fewer so stretching out an 82-game season from 6 months to say 9-10 doesn't do anything for me. I would love to say I would have the same level of interest throughout an 8-9month season but I don't even have that for a 6-7 month season...because life. I also think being able to turn off basketball for about 6mths of the year and watch other sports or focus on other things is healthy.

To satiate the all-year round folks, perhaps they should move the G-league season so there's less of an overlap with the NBA season. So instead of kicking off the GL roughly when the NBA begins, they should push it to after the NBA Finals finishes. So the 5 month GL season would start in say, mid-June and the Finals would be around Xmas. Or watch the WNBA who plays during the NBA offseason.

[garrick]

I think the product would dilute itself if it was running nearly all year round. The long NBA season already has massive lulls of interests during certain months of the roughly 6-8month calendar. Eg if you're one of the 50% of the NBA who won't play basketball beyond the regular season, then you'll likely only have transient interest in the playoffs (unless you gamble or you're hardcore). The post-ASW period can be a real flip of a coin in terms of likely fan interests as it consists of a bunch of teams on different pathways of either load management ahead of the playoffs, tanking or fighting to stay in the playoff picture. Jan and Feb tend to be a bit of a quiet period as well after the holiday month of December and not a ton happening until ASW. Essentially, no matter how long the season is, whether you stretch it to 9 months or keep it where it is, there will be lulls in the season and the longer the season, the longer the lulls.

To me, I think where it's at right now is fine. I personally prefer more games per week than fewer so stretching out an 82-game season from 6 months to say 9-10 doesn't do anything for me. I would love to say I would have the same level of interest throughout an 8-9month season but I don't even have that for a 6-7 month season...because life. I also think being able to turn off basketball for about 6mths of the year and watch other sports or focus on other things is healthy.

To satiate the all-year round folks, perhaps they should move the G-league season so there's less of an overlap with the NBA season. So instead of kicking off the GL roughly when the NBA begins, they should push it to after the NBA Finals finishes. So the 5 month GL season would start in say, mid-June and the Finals would be around Xmas. Or watch the WNBA who plays during the NBA offseason.

The season feels a bit long to me and since load management is an issue I would rather have fewer overall games which would get rid of back to back games which almost guarantees that you'll lose 1 out of 2 of those games and it's already a foregone conclusion that you lost the 2nd of a back 2 back.

Maybe reduce the regular season games to 65-70 games & you're really not losing much by eliminating a dozen games from the regular season.

[lilfishi22]

I think the product would dilute itself if it was running nearly all year round. The long NBA season already has massive lulls of interests during certain months of the roughly 6-8month calendar. Eg if you're one of the 50% of the NBA who won't play basketball beyond the regular season, then you'll likely only have transient interest in the playoffs (unless you gamble or you're hardcore). The post-ASW period can be a real flip of a coin in terms of likely fan interests as it consists of a bunch of teams on different pathways of either load management ahead of the playoffs, tanking or fighting to stay in the playoff picture. Jan and Feb tend to be a bit of a quiet period as well after the holiday month of December and not a ton happening until ASW. Essentially, no matter how long the season is, whether you stretch it to 9 months or keep it where it is, there will be lulls in the season and the longer the season, the longer the lulls.

To me, I think where it's at right now is fine. I personally prefer more games per week than fewer so stretching out an 82-game season from 6 months to say 9-10 doesn't do anything for me. I would love to say I would have the same level of interest throughout an 8-9month season but I don't even have that for a 6-7 month season...because life. I also think being able to turn off basketball for about 6mths of the year and watch other sports or focus on other things is healthy.

To satiate the all-year round folks, perhaps they should move the G-league season so there's less of an overlap with the NBA season. So instead of kicking off the GL roughly when the NBA begins, they should push it to after the NBA Finals finishes. So the 5 month GL season would start in say, mid-June and the Finals would be around Xmas. Or watch the WNBA who plays during the NBA offseason.

The season feels a bit long to me and since load management is an issue I would rather have fewer overall games which would get rid of back to back games which almost guarantees that you'll lose 1 out of 2 of those games and it's already a foregone conclusion that you lost the 2nd of a back 2 back.

Maybe reduce the regular season games to 65-70 games & you're really not losing much by eliminating a dozen games from the regular season.

Yeah I would rather reduce the number of games to reduce B2B than stretching out the season. Other than the fact that it's just the way it's historically been done, I don't think there would be any real impact to fans if they dropped the number of games from 82 to 72 for example, like they did during the Covid years. As you said, fewer B2B but keep the same season length (calendar wise) and hopefully reduce the stress on the body so perhaps less load management as well.

To me, stretching out a season really does very little to raise interest and if anything, it just makes an already long season more drawn out.

[Jdiddy701]

Who do you guys think we’ll face on Christmas? I say the Warriors or the Lakers.


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[SunsRback4Good]

Who do you guys think we’ll face on Christmas? I say the Warriors or the Lakers.


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It’ll likely be one of the teams we faced during the playoffs either Clippers or Nuggets. But if not those two my guess is the Lakers cause we have already faced the Dubs on Christmas.

[lilfishi22]

Who do you guys think we’ll face on Christmas? I say the Warriors or the Lakers.


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Assuming Denver will rematch Boston on Xmas, I'd say Lakers.

[SunsRback4Good]

Who do you guys think we’ll face on Christmas? I say the Warriors or the Lakers.


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Assuming Denver will rematch Boston on Xmas, I'd say Lakers.

Don’t you mean Miami?

[matt131]

I don't know if anyone has ESPN+, but the article Zach Lowe put out this morning at least has an interesting title:

"Lowe: Why Bradley Beal could unlock KD, Book and the most dangerous version of the Phoenix Suns yet"

He has consistently put Phoenix as the best team behind Denver when talking about us in his podcasts, but I'd be interested to see his detailed breakdown here.

[King4Day]

I don't know if anyone has ESPN+, but the article Zach Lowe put out this morning at least has an interesting title:

"Lowe: Why Bradley Beal could unlock KD, Book and the most dangerous version of the Phoenix Suns yet"

He has consistently put Phoenix as the best team behind Denver when talking about us in his podcasts, but I'd be interested to see his detailed breakdown here.

Looks like it's from mid-July.
They just talk about different ways Beal can help setup the offense. Different sets, screens, etc.
It's a good read. Nice article.