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[KendallMarshall]

Maybe the Packers should have signed Jordan Rodgers to be the backup qb during his time here. Anything to make the star player happy.

[emunney]

Maybe the Packers should have signed Jordan Rodgers to be the backup qb during his time here. Anything to make the star player happy.

Maybe, if they liked each other. Would argue they should have kept some of the less talented WRs with whom he clearly had rapport.

[drone3]

How would you guys rank our top 3 playmaking guards?

Jrue, Patty, AJ?

[Daver]

How would you guys rank our top 3 playmaking guards?

Jrue, Patty, AJ?

Wouldnt call AJ a top 3 play making guard at least not yet he may not even play this year hope im wrong but wow your assuming alot

[JayMKE]

If a player as mercurial as Aaron Rodgers could have been happy simply by having his scrub brother buried on the bench then I would have done that too, we're lucky to have to have had all these HOF all time great players come thru Wisconsin and keeping them happy & comfortable is part of that. Simple as.

[MKE_Beers]

How would you guys rank our top 3 playmaking guards?

Jrue, Patty, AJ?

Wouldnt call AJ a top 3 play making guard at least not yet he may not even play this year hope im wrong but wow your assuming alot

I think AJ could be one of our top 3 playmaking guards because, well, who else is there really? Maybe Grayson? Beasley? It's not like we have a ton to chose from here. I definitely don't see how someone is "assuming a lot" with that choice. They weren't saying in the league just out of the 5 or so guys on our team.

[raferfenix]

Kane and Sam Vecenie from The Athletic talk potential of Dame to Milwaukee on Locked On Bucks.

Vecenie broaches Golden State as a potential third team to give up serious assets for Jrue which I hadn’t thought about before.

Chris Paul (and his ending contract) can be traded in a multi-player deal Sept. 4 which isn’t so far away now. Warriors have Kuminga / Moody / picks to put into play if they really want Holiday.

Neither think a deal is likely though. Vecenie says a big issue is Holiday can opt out so the only teams that’d give up big value would have to be fully confident in keeping him.

Bucks would also need to add significant additional value, some combo of MarJon / 2029 first / first swaps / Pat / Portis / Allen. And even then it’s a challenge to top Miami’s best offer.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/locked-on-bucks-daily-podcast-on-the-milwaukee-bucks/id1134941995?i=1000623261332

[Ron Swanson]

Listened to the pod and while I'll fully agree that the moving pieces on our end in a Dame trade would ultimately be too tricky (has to essentially be Jrue plus two other Top-8 rotation guys), I couldn't disagree with him more that we couldn't (rather easily if we wanted to) beat Miami's trade package. He's now the 3rd or 4th national beat writer guy I've heard that's seemed to talk themselves into this idea that Miami's assets are anything but a collection of mediocre prospects and trash salary filler. Outside of shilling for either Goodwin/Dame or Riley for future access, I just don't understand it.

[GoldenAntlers]

How would you guys rank our top 3 playmaking guards?

Jrue, Patty, AJ?

Wouldnt call AJ a top 3 play making guard at least not yet he may not even play this year hope im wrong but wow your assuming alot

I think the point he is making is that we don't have a playmaking guard: see Pat C ranked as #2 for evidence.

[Fotis St]

Thanasis murdered Doncic tonight (Greece-Slovenia 98-91, THANASTY : 14 pts, 4 reb, 2 stl, 3 blk), so we good

Thanasis has elite athleticism, great motor and loves playing D. His game against Slovenia is one more proof that he is a useful player, his athleticism, his speed, his vertical and wingspan, his good timing on blocks, his active hands, his pace and his smiles can sometimes be game changing, clutch and win u the game. He didn't had a fair chance by Bud cause of him being Giannis brother.

https://youtube.com/shorts/cXZdK7C-TZ8?feature=share

[raferfenix]

How good do we think Miami’s best offer really is?

At this moment, the Heat are capable of trading two first-round picks and three first-round swaps. The two exceptions within their seven-year allotment are in 2025 and 2026. They currently owe the Oklahoma City Thunder their lottery-protected pick in 2025, but if it does not convey, it becomes unprotected in 2026. That means that, for Stepien Rule purposes, they cannot trade any picks outright until 2028. In other words: they can offer swaps in 2024, 2027 and 2029 along with unprotected picks in 2028 and 2030.

There is an easy workaround here if the Heat need to create another tradable pick, though. The Thunder would almost certainly rather have Miami's unprotected pick in 2026 than a pick between 15-30 in 2025. The two sides can therefore agree to amend the pick currently owed to turn it into an unprotected 2026 pick with no strings attached. This would give Miami control over its 2025 selection and the ability to trade its 2024 pick outright. With this approach, they would be able to send swaps in 2025, 2027 and 2029 along with unprotected picks in 2024, 2028 and 2030.

Four of them are relatively young enough and affordable enough to make sense for the Blazers: Eastern Conference finals hero Caleb Martin, 2023 first-round pick Jaime Jaquez Jr., 2022 first-round Nikola Jovic and reserve forward Haywood Highsmith.

Lowry is an acceptable one-year proposition as a mentor for their younger players. Herro would need to be rerouted elsewhere. Yahoo's Jake Fischer reports that there is optimism around the league that Herro will fetch at least one first-round pick in the deal, which could then be sent to Portland, bringing their total get to four picks and three swaps.

One last bit of business: Portland would likely prefer to use this trade as an opportunity to escape their questionable four-year, $70 million deal they gave Jusuf Nurkic last offseason. The Heat can technically accommodate them. The combination of Lillard and Nurkic makes roughly $5.8 million more than the combination of Lowry and Herro. Add a couple of those other young players we mentioned and the money evens out.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/what-can-the-heat-actually-offer-for-damian-lillard-and-why-are-the-blazers-so-hesitant-to-accept-it/amp/

[crowhead76]

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Grayson for Delon just makes too much sense.

[Ron Swanson]

Article even does it's best to paint as rosy a picture of that Miami package and pretty much sums it up lol. "Relatively young" doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. An "Eastern Conference Finals Hero", an expiring "mentor", FOUR 1st round picks, and 3 swaps sounds so much better than:

a 28-year old journeyman role-player, garbage salary filler (Lowry), a borderline 2nd round prospect you just drafted in the 1st (Jaquez), a 26-year old you never heard of until 3 months ago (Highsmith), and a collection of mid-late 1st round picks outside of maybe the 2-3 of the furthest ones out (2027-2030) from a franchise that historically hasn't ever tanked outside of like, one season (2008) in the past three decades...

[RogerMurdock]

Thanasis murdered Doncic tonight (Greece-Slovenia 98-91, THANASTY : 14 pts, 4 reb, 2 stl, 3 blk), so we good

Thanasis has elite athleticism, great motor and loves playing D. His game against Slovenia is one more proof that he is a useful player, his athleticism, his speed, his vertical and wingspan, his good timing on blocks, his active hands, his pace and his smiles can sometimes be game changing, clutch and win u the game. He didn't had a fair chance by Bud cause of him being Giannis brother.

https://youtube.com/shorts/cXZdK7C-TZ8?feature=share

Look, man, I get it. You love Thanasis. I like him, too, and really am happy he is on the team. But he's not a good NBA player. He's not going to suddenly be some great contributor because he gets playing time with the starters.

Though "his smiles can sometimes be game changing" makes me think you're just trolling.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Article even does it's best to paint as rosy a picture of that Miami package and pretty much sums it up lol. "Relatively young" doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. An "Eastern Conference Finals Hero", an expiring "mentor", FOUR 1st round picks, and 3 swaps sounds so much better than:

a 28-year old journeyman role-player, garbage salary filler (Lowry), a borderline 2nd round prospect you just drafted in the 1st (Jaquez), a 26-year old you never heard of until 3 months ago (Highsmith), and a collection of mid-late 1st round picks outside of maybe the 2-3 of the furthest ones out (2027-2030) from a franchise that historically hasn't ever tanked outside of like, one season (2008) in the past three decades...

I could see the Blazers talking themselves into those unprotected Heat picks in the late 20s since both Jimmy and Dame are likely out of the league by that point.

But the counter would be it's Miami so guys want to play there and as you said they have a history of at least being decent.

I think the whole Brooklyn/Boston trade kind of skewed our view of these things. If a team knows they won't have picks and no incentive to lose it's actually rare to be terrible, more common to at least be mediocre (especially in markets that can sign FAs).

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[emunney]

I will always believe that Thanasis missed his true calling as a decathlete. His athleticism gives him a plausible role in just about any sport.

[Daver]

Article even does it's best to paint as rosy a picture of that Miami package and pretty much sums it up lol. "Relatively young" doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. An "Eastern Conference Finals Hero", an expiring "mentor", FOUR 1st round picks, and 3 swaps sounds so much better than:

a 28-year old journeyman role-player, garbage salary filler (Lowry), a borderline 2nd round prospect you just drafted in the 1st (Jaquez), a 26-year old you never heard of until 3 months ago (Highsmith), and a collection of mid-late 1st round picks outside of maybe the 2-3 of the furthest ones out (2027-2030) from a franchise that historically hasn't ever tanked outside of like, one season (2008) in the past three decades...

Miami fans try to tell anyone who will listen to their garbage ranting thst jovic n JJJ are csnt miss prospects to justify how great this deal is.Thode 2 guys especislly are notjing more than prospects jovic hasnt proved anything that package to me sucks .Portland wants a KD type offer 1 or 2 starting young players n 3 to 4 draft picks.
Heat dont have the starting young players tbry dont want guards.I have no clue why portlsnd would take a offer that includes 2 or 3 frps in the 20s this isnt the NFL.
If im cronin after goodwill absolutely hosed the blazers on getting a resonable deal im hanging onto dame till whenever and hope the longer this goes on the more other teams will make a offer.
He doesnt have a no trade clause and has 4 years left he has zero leverage cronin csn trade him wherever he wants

[skones]

I will always believe that Thanasis missed his true calling as a decathlete. His athleticism gives him a plausible role in just about any sport.

I played soccer with a guy in high school who was just a stupid athlete. Fast as hell, super super strong without being a big guy, used to be able to throw him random oops during open run at the YMCA at 6'0 or a hair under. Didn't do track and field at all. Went to Concordia, ended up qualifying for National Championships in the Decathalon, won two national titles in the Javelin throw, and was an All American 5 times. Stupid athletes just going to stupid athlete.

I'd imagine a lot of NBA guys are capable of some pretty ridiculous feats in that arena.

[M-C-G]

I will always believe that Thanasis missed his true calling as a decathlete. His athleticism gives him a plausible role in just about any sport.

He’d be a slam ball GOAT


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[drew881]

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Grayson for Delon just makes too much sense.

I’m on board, especially because we have Beasley, but what is the Wizards interest here? Do we include picks?