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Post#1541 » by durden_tyler » Wed Aug 2, 2023 5:13 am

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UcanUwill wrote:In forums, yes, it can mean original post, but here, and in usual video game debates, as been said, OP usually mean - over-powered.

That's weird! Thanks for informing me though.
Will Wemby score most of his points close to the basket or most of his points from mid-range?


OP for me is Original Poster/Post as well until my kids taught me what it really means in the current generation.

Bunch of old guys. :D
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Post#1542 » by cam24thomas » Wed Aug 2, 2023 4:21 pm

durden_tyler wrote:OP for me is Original Poster/Post as well until my kids taught me what it really means in the current generation.

Did your kids use OP for over-power in casual conversation, or just when talking about sport?
Still, I live with a Physical Education teacher and her 14-year-old son, but I've still never heard it, despite their interest in sport....
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Post#1543 » by cam24thomas » Wed Aug 2, 2023 4:31 pm

BTW why is Wembanyama only 209 pounds? I heard he was stronger than others of such heights, but 209 pounds is bizarrely light.
Yao Ming was 310 pounds!
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Post#1544 » by UcanUwill » Wed Aug 2, 2023 4:52 pm

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durden_tyler wrote:OP for me is Original Poster/Post as well until my kids taught me what it really means in the current generation.

Did your kids use OP for over-power in casual conversation, or just when talking about sport?
Still, I live with a Physical Education teacher and her 14-year-old son, but I've still never heard it, despite their interest in sport....
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OP (overpowered) is extremely common abbreviation in video game conversations at least, since it is very common topic. In every game genre, especially competitive genre, you need to balance things and everything. For example fighting game like Mortal Kombat, one thing is to do models, graphics, programming, motion capture... everything... but sometimes, the hardest part is to balance everything in post production, because in Motal Kombat they make like over 20 playable characters that are all different, but the idea of competitive fighting game, is that no matter who matches against whoever else, it should be equal fight. Same with everything, like shooting games, where no gun or class should be really OP, otherwise everyone will just use that and ignore all the other content, often breaking the game.

So when talking games, OP talk fluds the game, that Shotgun is OP, or that MK character is OP, that spell is OP in that etc etc. That is why in todays digital age, game comes out, but then you get a year of patches, if even lucky, where developers nerf something or boost something else, basically trying to fix balancing based on feedback. No usch thing 30 or 40 years ago, that is why if you play Double Dragon today on original 1984 NES, you will see typo in main characters name in first screenshot of the game, and it was like that for 35 years.
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Post#1545 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Wed Aug 2, 2023 4:53 pm

cam24thomas wrote:BTW why is Wembanyama only 209 pounds? I heard he was stronger than others of such heights, but 209 pounds is bizarrely light.
Yao Ming was 310 pounds!

Who told you he was stronger?
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Post#1546 » by cam24thomas » Wed Aug 2, 2023 5:44 pm

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cam24thomas wrote:BTW why is Wembanyama only 209 pounds? I heard he was stronger than others of such heights, but 209 pounds is bizarrely light.
Yao Ming was 310 pounds!

Who told you he was stronger?

I can't remember the name of the realgm poster but they were talking about him being strong already.
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Post#1547 » by cam24thomas » Wed Aug 2, 2023 5:48 pm

UcanUwill wrote:OP (overpowered) is extremely common abbreviation in video game conversations at least, since it is very common topic. In every game genre, especially competitive genre, you need to balance things and everything. For example fighting game like Mortal Kombat, one thing is to do models, graphics, programming, motion capture... everything... but sometimes, the hardest part is to balance everything in post production, because in Motal Kombat they make like over 20 playable characters that are all different, but the idea of competitive fighting game, is that no matter who matches against whoever else, it should be equal fight. Same with everything, like shooting games, where no gun or class should be really OP, otherwise everyone will just use that and ignore all the other content, often breaking the game.

So when talking games, OP talk fluids the game, that Shotgun is OP, or that MK character is OP, that spell is OP in that etc etc. That is why in todays digital age, game comes out, but then you get a year of patches, if even lucky, where developers nerf something or boost something else, basically trying to fix balancing based on feedback. No usch thing 30 or 40 years ago, that is why if you play Double Dragon today on original 1984 NES, you will see typo in main characters name in first screenshot of the game, and it was like that for 35 years.

Oh video games, I see now, at home we only play nba2k games, not fighting.
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Post#1548 » by UcanUwill » Wed Aug 2, 2023 6:20 pm

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cam24thomas wrote:BTW why is Wembanyama only 209 pounds? I heard he was stronger than others of such heights, but 209 pounds is bizarrely light.
Yao Ming was 310 pounds!

Who told you he was stronger?

I can't remember the name of the realgm poster but they were talking about him being strong already.


If we are talking about strength, he is not for a basketball player, but if you compare how his body developed over last two years, you see a very promising improvement. Guy was a skeleton.
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Post#1549 » by cam24thomas » Thu Aug 3, 2023 1:10 pm

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kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Who told you he was stronger?

I can't remember the name of the realgm poster but they were talking about him being strong already.


If we are talking about strength, he is not for a basketball player, but if you compare how his body developed over last two years, you see a very promising improvement. Guy was a skeleton.

Which weight would be ideal for him?
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Post#1550 » by rk2023 » Thu Aug 3, 2023 2:55 pm

cam24thomas wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
cam24thomas wrote:I can't remember the name of the realgm poster but they were talking about him being strong already.


If we are talking about strength, he is not for a basketball player, but if you compare how his body developed over last two years, you see a very promising improvement. Guy was a skeleton.

Which weight would be ideal for him?


~220-25 lbs at 7'4 doesn't seem like a hinderance to Wemby's fluidity - while still being a great first step at improving his body for professional play. For comparison, Chet (whom looks much stronger) is 7'1-2 at around 205-10 pounds after bulking up amidst his rookie injury.
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Post#1551 » by cam24thomas » Fri Aug 4, 2023 7:14 am

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cam24thomas wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
If we are talking about strength, he is not for a basketball player, but if you compare how his body developed over last two years, you see a very promising improvement. Guy was a skeleton.

Which weight would be ideal for him?


~220-25 lbs at 7'4 doesn't seem like a hinderance to Wemby's fluidity - while still being a great first step at improving his body for professional play. For comparison, Chet (whom looks much stronger) is 7'1-2 at around 205-10 pounds after bulking up amidst his rookie injury.

I bet his weight will change before his debut so we'll have to edit his weight in nba2k24.
Will playing basketball non-stop make him lighter? Or heavier? And will he lift weights during the season or only before it?
Michael Jordan said he lifted weights on game days even to get him into an aggressive frame of mind (he said in the 1992 documentary Air Time).
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Post#1552 » by AdagioPace » Fri Aug 4, 2023 8:13 am

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rk2023 wrote:
cam24thomas wrote:Which weight would be ideal for him?


~220-25 lbs at 7'4 doesn't seem like a hinderance to Wemby's fluidity - while still being a great first step at improving his body for professional play. For comparison, Chet (whom looks much stronger) is 7'1-2 at around 205-10 pounds after bulking up amidst his rookie injury.

I bet his weight will change before his debut so we'll have to edit his weight in nba2k24.
Will playing basketball non-stop make him lighter? Or heavier? And will he lift weights during the season or only before it?
Michael Jordan said he lifted weights on game days even to get him into an aggressive frame of mind (he said in the 1992 documentary Air Time).


I think his calories intake will change accordingly when he's followed by nutritionists. He's not running marathons anyway.
Putting weight at that age, with that fast metabolism is not easy. He needs to embrace a bit of porkiness while lifting :D (of course, always under scientific supervision).
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Post#1553 » by Pachinko_ » Fri Aug 4, 2023 11:14 am

This whole weight thing reminds me of Toni Kukoc. Before the NBA he was basically a stick figure

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Then on the first year with the bulls they decided to play him PF and he famously gained a bunch of muscle in record time, God knows what, uh... supplements they gave him :D
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Except he couldn't move very well any more, so he was told to lose it again. And then he gained it back, and then lost it again.

You ask 10 people about players' ideal playing weight and you'll get 10 different answers.
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Post#1554 » by rk2023 » Fri Aug 4, 2023 1:26 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:This whole weight thing reminds me of Toni Kukoc. Before the NBA he was basically a stick figure

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Then on the first year with the bulls they decided to play him PF and he famously gained a bunch of muscle in record time, God knows what, uh... supplements they gave him :D
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Except he couldn't move very well any more, so he was told to lose it again. And then he gained it back, and then lost it again.

You ask 10 people about players' ideal playing weight and you'll get 10 different answers.


He looks pretty similar to Chet in the first pic :lol:
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Post#1555 » by Indomitable » Fri Aug 4, 2023 10:30 pm

rk2023 wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:This whole weight thing reminds me of Toni Kukoc. Before the NBA he was basically a stick figure

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Then on the first year with the bulls they decided to play him PF and he famously gained a bunch of muscle in record time, God knows what, uh... supplements they gave him :D
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Except he couldn't move very well any more, so he was told to lose it again. And then he gained it back, and then lost it again.

You ask 10 people about players' ideal playing weight and you'll get 10 different answers.


He looks pretty similar to Chet in the first pic :lol:

He was 20 in one and about 26 in the other.
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Post#1556 » by Pachinko_ » Sat Aug 5, 2023 3:06 am

Indomitable wrote:He was 20 in one and about 26 in the other.

It's true, I looked but just couldn't find a good photo. Are you a bulls fan? Do you recall how quickly he put on weight in America or is my memory playing tricks on me? I do remember the discussions for sure.
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Post#1557 » by Gordon » Sat Aug 5, 2023 11:20 am

Kukoc gaining so much weight in a short time actaully ruined his potential. He lost much of his quickness and explosivness, and even with added weight he still wasnt able to battle in the post with 90s power forwards.
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Post#1558 » by cam24thomas » Sat Aug 5, 2023 8:57 pm

Is Wembanyama going to play Power Forward, or Center?
If I had a starting 5 with Wembanyama and Brook Lopez, which would play Center?
Which is more mobile?
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Post#1559 » by Indomitable » Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:55 am

Pachinko_ wrote:
Indomitable wrote:He was 20 in one and about 26 in the other.

It's true, I looked but just couldn't find a good photo. Are you a bulls fan? Do you recall how quickly he put on weight in America or is my memory playing tricks on me? I do remember the discussions for sure.

He did not come for years after he was drafted.

He was 24 or 25 when he got over here.
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Post#1560 » by G R E Y » Mon Aug 14, 2023 4:05 pm

cam24thomas wrote:Is Wembanyama going to play Power Forward, or Center?
If I had a starting 5 with Wembanyama and Brook Lopez, which would play Center?
Which is more mobile?

Starting PF at least at the beginning of his career.
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