Cade Cunningham dominated Team USA in a scrimmage

[sfernald]

Practice!? We talking ‘bout practice?

[UcanUwill]

Everyone seems to have forgotten about cade after the injury. It's not a fluke that he was the best player on that court.

What have we forgotten about? He looks like a promising prospect but he’s shown nothing in the NBA so far to chastise people about forgetting him. He still has some gaping flaws like a slow first step and a looser-than-necessary handle that makes me think he won’t be able to be a full time PG. That’s not to mention his terrible shooting, but I believe that’s ephemeral as he was an excellent shooter before he got to the NBA. This season will be telling, though.

Was he former number 1 pick who looked very promising in the NBA as a rookie or is he so undrafted scrub, because you make it sound like hes the latter. Kid has size and smarts, those types proved to be capable to dominate NBA.

[Han Solo]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/L2ZRiiPgyZM

[sfernald]

Everyone seems to have forgotten about cade after the injury. It's not a fluke that he was the best player on that court.

What have we forgotten about? He looks like a promising prospect but he’s shown nothing in the NBA so far to chastise people about forgetting him. He still has some gaping flaws like a slow first step and a looser-than-necessary handle that makes me think he won’t be able to be a full time PG. That’s not to mention his terrible shooting, but I believe that’s ephemeral as he was an excellent shooter before he got to the NBA. This season will be telling, though.

Was he former number 1 pick who looked very promising in the NBA as a rookie or is he so undrafted scrub, because you make it sound like hes the latter. Kid has size and smarts, those types proved to be capable to dominate NBA.

I mean that’s the trick with Cade isn’t it. One the one hand he has all the potential in the world and it seems almost inevitable he will become one of the best players in the league. On the other hand, he just can’t stay healthy. And I think he’s sort of skated by in everyone’s mind on his potential and star level demeanor. But I think there’s a real chance he ends up disappointing us mightily he doesn’t start playing games very soon.

[Texas Chuck]

Kerr is doing the old Daly trick of having the main team lose to the practice team to get them to take this more seriously, right?

Not to take anything away from Cade. But this is an old trick. I wouldn't read much into it.

[Han Solo]

I think it’s not just Cade here. Duren looks like a young Dwight Howard. And he gets after it. Not as much as Ben Wallace, but he still has a motor like I haven’t seen since. Then you add Ivey - who really is something on his own. Ausar Thompson at the least looks like a freak on defense. His offense is progressing well too. Pistons also have a good number of high 3% shooters on the team (Bojan, Burks, Harris, Morris, Livers, Sasser). When Duren isn’t in - Cade has good chemistry with Bagley (to be honest). Wiseman still is a work in progress. Beef Stew is the team’s Left tackle. Cade is set up well for success this year in my opinion.

Monty Williams coaching.

I think Cade takes a big leap. Everyone projecting Pistons to be the worst team in the league too. I doubt it.

[Snakebites]

I have a lot of hope for Cade.

But Darko used to dominate in practice.

[UcanUwill]

I have a lot of hope for Cade.

But Darko used to dominate in practice.

Dominate the rim, not team USA tho.

[lambchop]

10 minute scrimmage?

Watch on YouTube

Doesn't look like 10 minutes to me.

[waltondude]

10 minute scrimmage?

Watch on YouTube

Doesn't look like 10 minutes to me.

We finna act like Payton Pritchard ain't putting in work?

Give the man NBA minutes.

[GYK]

Cade was great. If he’s going to be a hub player and a point of attack defender, Jesus Christ he’s going to get an MVP.
Mikal obviously the best defender. Cade and Prichard didn’t try to score against him, literally Cade tried to post once and the entry couldn’t get through. Still his passing is meh.
Brandon role seems to be go to guy. It’s fine but he needs to embrace the 3&D role.
JJJ is so much better at PF than center it’s fascinating.
Duren is a baby Dwight. He was great. Idk how he and Cade didn’t make it.
Brunson/Mikal is a good backcourt if you feature one. But in this situation Hali or Edwards bring a more dynamic ability.
Chet is awfully skinny.
wasn’t a fan of the rotations. aimed for steadiness but idk feel like the pairings didn’t bring the bite.

[John Murdoch]

He was the 1st guy i thought of when we drafted JHS , shorter but stronger

[sfernald]

I think it’s not just Cade here. Duren looks like a young Dwight Howard. And he gets after it. Not as much as Ben Wallace, but he still has a motor like I haven’t seen since. Then you add Ivey - who really is something on his own. Ausar Thompson at the least looks like a freak on defense. His offense is progressing well too. Pistons also have a good number of high 3% shooters on the team (Bojan, Burks, Harris, Morris, Livers, Sasser). When Duren isn’t in - Cade has good chemistry with Bagley (to be honest). Wiseman still is a work in progress. Beef Stew is the team’s Left tackle. Cade is set up well for success this year in my opinion.

Monty Williams coaching.

I think Cade takes a big leap. Everyone projecting Pistons to be the worst team in the league too. I doubt it.

I will say I saw a lot of optimistic posts from Piston fans on this very forum last summer about this time that they would be a surprisingly good team and we know how that worked out.

[Invictus88]

I think it’s not just Cade here. Duren looks like a young Dwight Howard. And he gets after it. Not as much as Ben Wallace, but he still has a motor like I haven’t seen since. Then you add Ivey - who really is something on his own. Ausar Thompson at the least looks like a freak on defense. His offense is progressing well too. Pistons also have a good number of high 3% shooters on the team (Bojan, Burks, Harris, Morris, Livers, Sasser). When Duren isn’t in - Cade has good chemistry with Bagley (to be honest). Wiseman still is a work in progress. Beef Stew is the team’s Left tackle. Cade is set up well for success this year in my opinion.

Monty Williams coaching.

I think Cade takes a big leap. Everyone projecting Pistons to be the worst team in the league too. I doubt it.

I will say I saw a lot of optimistic posts from Piston fans on this very forum last summer about this time that they would be a surprisingly good team and we know how that worked out.

I don't think it would be possible to predict that Cade goes down 12 games into the season. After that it was largely tank mode to get the best odds possible for VW.

They won 17 games last year considering the above. I think that with Cade back and improvements elsewhere I put them around 32 wins. It's still not contending for a playin spot but is basically saying we did worse than we should have last year + an expected improvement due to offseason development.

Do you consider that to be too optimistic?

The team is still super young and frankly still has some obvious balance issues that need to be worked out to be considered anything more than that.

[zeebneeb]

I think it’s not just Cade here. Duren looks like a young Dwight Howard. And he gets after it. Not as much as Ben Wallace, but he still has a motor like I haven’t seen since. Then you add Ivey - who really is something on his own. Ausar Thompson at the least looks like a freak on defense. His offense is progressing well too. Pistons also have a good number of high 3% shooters on the team (Bojan, Burks, Harris, Morris, Livers, Sasser). When Duren isn’t in - Cade has good chemistry with Bagley (to be honest). Wiseman still is a work in progress. Beef Stew is the team’s Left tackle. Cade is set up well for success this year in my opinion.

Monty Williams coaching.

I think Cade takes a big leap. Everyone projecting Pistons to be the worst team in the league too. I doubt it.

I will say I saw a lot of optimistic posts from Piston fans on this very forum last summer about this time that they would be a surprisingly good team and we know how that worked out.

Ok, let's play what happened last season, and then what happened this offseason.

I'll let you go first.

[brutalitops]

Everyone seems to have forgotten about cade after the injury. It's not a fluke that he was the best player on that court.

Pretty much, Everyone just whinged he couldn't shoot when he's been ""healthy"" on an NBA court. Dudes going to be an issue surrounded by competent basketball players and being healthy

[NBA4Lyfe]

steve kerr is not a good coach, his motion offense will get exposed by these other world teams

[vege]

Cade and Duren are good, the problem for Detroit is the rest of the team.

Cade was constantly defended by 5 players during his rookie season, and he had a slow start due to his ankle injury. Then he had his injury last season. So my only concern with Cade is his health. He is not flashy, or explosive, but he is smart and skilled. His midrange shot was money last season btw, his shooting is going to be fine especially if he have a better team around him.

Duren impressed me a lot, people forget he was the youngest player in the league last season, and he showed he can go against anyone in this practice. We all know he is phisically gifted, but what surprised me the most during the season, was his BBIQ and his passing (hability and willingness). He still have work to do but I believe he is going to be special.

Pritchard deserves a chance somewhere, he's not going to play in Boston. He should go to Washington or Toronto or somewhere he would get playing time.

[madskillz8]

Just a reminder, crafty and fundamentally sound ball handlers often thrive in FIBA setting. Smaller court, shorter 3pt line, and no 3 second rule results in way less spacing in half-court. If you watch the scrimmage video shared above, you can easily see what I mean.

In this setting, you need the skillset of Cade, more than a player who creates his offense with quick first step or leaping ability. For example, I just can't see Ja Morant having success in World Cup or in Olympics (unless the game plan is to out-run the opponents).

[dans1230]

Cade and Duren are good, the problem for Detroit is the rest of the team.

Cade was constantly defended by 5 players during his rookie season, and he had a slow start due to his ankle injury. Then he had his injury last season. So my only concern with Cade is his health. He is not flashy, or explosive, but he is smart and skilled. His midrange shot was money last season btw, his shooting is going to be fine especially if he have a better team around him.

Duren impressed me a lot, people forget he was the youngest player in the league last season, and he showed he can go against anyone in this practice. We all know he is phisically gifted, but what surprised me the most during the season, was his BBIQ and his passing (hability and willingness). He still have work to do but I believe he is going to be special.

Pritchard deserves a chance somewhere, he's not going to play in Boston. He should go to Washington or Toronto or somewhere he would get playing time.

Pritchard will get regular minutes this year with the trade of Smart. The Celtics didnt look to fill that position which tells me they are comfortable with giving him the opportunity.
I love the future of the Pistons. Cade, Ivey, and Duran is a nice young core, along with this years #5 pick Ausar Thompson. Obviously Cade and Ivey need to improve there offensive efficiency, but that usually comes with time.