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[tedbrogen]

We don’t have the ammo to land Herro. With our lack of assets we’d have to take on a bad contract like Nurkic with Herro, but we can’t do that either due to our financial situation.

Bobby+Pat+Grayson is the financial equivalent to Herro, but you lose 3 top 7 rotation players for 1 guy.

I just don’t see it happening.

Apparently i have no idea how trades work cause all i hear is how there are teams that will trade a 1st frt for herro just a 1st no playerz than why couldnt the bucks do that

Because Herro makes $27mil so we would have to send out matching salaries since we are way over the cap. I dont think that any team is still $27 mil below the cap.

https://fanspo.com/nba/trade-machine

Correct. There are no teams in the league that can currently just absorb Herro’s salary.

[raferfenix]

Jazz have been linked to Herro.

Bucks have been linked to Sexton.

Facilitating Dame to Miami that way seems more likely to me than us keeping Tyler (and his tattoos) for ourselves.

[raferfenix]

I could see Portland valuing Pat returning as a heady vet fan favorite on a cheap long term deal playing a position of need.

Or if they prefer Bobby this kind of trade would still work in theory.

Heat trade: 3 firsts, 3 swaps, Herro, Martin, Lowry
Heat receive: Dame, Allen

Blazers trade: Dame
Blazers receive: 4 firsts, 3 swaps, Pat, Horton-Tucker, Lowry, Martin, (Bucks draft asset/s if needed)

Jazz trade: First, Sexton, Horton-Tucker
Jazz receive: Herro

Bucks trade: Pat, Allen, pick/s if needed (swap or a
seconds very different than 2029 first of course).
Bucks receive: Sexton


Trailblazers lineup something like:
PG: Scoot, Lowry
SG: Simons, Sharpe
SF: Pat, Horton-Tucker
PF: Grant, Martin
C: Nurkic

[Ron Swanson]

Yikes that's gross. Collin Sexton just doesn't have this kind of value nor is he that much of a difference-maker. Pat probably still gives you much more consistent playoff impact. Then helping Miami get Dame on top of it is just extra bleh.

Most I'm giving up for him is Bobby/Grayson and maybe Portland's 2024 2nd-rounder back? And even then I don't feel great about that not being an overpay.

[GoldenAntlers]

How would you guys rank our top 3 playmaking guards?

Jrue, Patty, AJ?

I love Pat but i dont consider him a guard or a playmaker. I would say Jrue, Andre, Moore, AJ Green, Allen

We gotta have some of the worst playmaking guards in the league. It's kinda sad and a shame we might never have a true PG with Giannis. Guess we will just keep rolling with the steamroll move half the game

How often do NBA teams not have a point guard for 10 straight years? Seems like not often , but I could be wrong.

[GoldenAntlers]

The offseason feels really long this year for some reason. Out of boredom...

Bucks in: Quickly, Wright
Wizards in: Allen, Bucks 2027 2nd
Knicks in: Bullock, McDermott, Portlands 2024 2nd from Bucks
Spurs in: Pat, Fournier

Knicks sheds Fournier and get two players that they like along with a very valuable 2nd round pick. Spurs add the French veteran for Wemby as well as Pat who they envision to help with veteran presence and build team culture with their young core. Wizards is Allen for Wright with a 2nd round pick going to Washington. Bucks decide to move forward with increased playing time for Beauchamp and the rookies (not sure how they accomplish that with the current roster makeup)


Quickley | Wright | AJJ | Gortman (2way)
Holiday | Beasley | Green | Moore (2way)
Middleton | Beauchamp | Livingston
Giannis | Crowder | Thanasis
Lopez | Portis | Lopez

We lost the playoffs in 5 games is why it's been excruciatingly long.

[raferfenix]

Most I'm giving up for him is Bobby/Grayson and maybe Portland's 2024 2nd-rounder back? And even then I don't feel great about that not being an overpay.

You rate Pat ahead of Bobby?

Legitimately asking. I love both of them and can see arguments either way.

I agree one of them + Grayson alone is a lot to give up.

To be clear I could see there being 0 draft assets sent. Portland's 2024 second is a valuable one too that'd be different than it being far out.

[GBPackers47]

I love Pat but i dont consider him a guard or a playmaker. I would say Jrue, Andre, Moore, AJ Green, Allen

We gotta have some of the worst playmaking guards in the league. It's kinda sad and a shame we might never have a true PG with Giannis. Guess we will just keep rolling with the steamroll move half the game

How often do NBA teams not have a point guard for 10 straight years? Seems like not often , but I could be wrong.

23 of them don't have a championship in the last 10 years.

[Fotis St]

How much of our 3p post season does Sexton adds ? Isn't 3p shooting ahead of additional playmaking in our hierarchy of "fix issues" ?
Helping Heat get Lillard in any Sexton trade is a no no no no go for me.

[mg]

How much of our 3p post season does Sexton adds ? Isn't 3p shooting ahead of additional playmaking in our hierarchy of "fix issues" ?
Helping Heat get Lillard in any Sexton trade is a no no no no go for me.

Agreed assisting the Heat in any Dame deal might be a bad optic.

With that said if Dame to Miami is an inevitability might as well try to grab a player in the process if it makes the Bucks better. I can see Sexton being a nice contributor during the regular season as his scoring would take a load off the veterans to keep them fresher for the playoffs.

[Daver]

How much of our 3p post season does Sexton adds ? Isn't 3p shooting ahead of additional playmaking in our hierarchy of "fix issues" ?
Helping Heat get Lillard in any Sexton trade is a no no no no go for me.

Agreed assisting the Heat in any Dame deal might be a bad optic.

With that said if Dame to Miami is an inevitability might as well try to grab a player in the process if it makes the Bucks better. I can see Sexton being a nice contributor during the regular season as his scoring would take a load off the veterans to keep them fresher for the playoffs.

Thats the problem this trade may never happen.Cronin is still pretty pissed at whst goodwill did and im thinking dame eill be traded but i really dont think cronin wants no part of the heat at all.
Saying that im still hoping the bucks bring in a sexton or rozier you bring in either you can play jrue at the 2 and i think that the xtra scoring takes pressure off the big 3 as well

[Badgerlander]

Jazz have been linked to Herro.

Bucks have been linked to Sexton.

Facilitating Dame to Miami that way seems more likely to me than us keeping Tyler (and his tattoos) for ourselves.

Idk Herro would be a much better fit for us than Sexton. Not that im interested in paying asking price for either of them.

[BroncoBuck]

Yikes that's gross. Collin Sexton just doesn't have this kind of value nor is he that much of a difference-maker. Pat probably still gives you much more consistent playoff impact. Then helping Miami get Dame on top of it is just extra bleh.

Most I'm giving up for him is Bobby/Grayson and maybe Portland's 2024 2nd-rounder back? And even then I don't feel great about that not being an overpay.

Grayson is one of the best shooters in the league. Trading him to Miami would be an absolute nightmare scenario for the Bucks. Don’t give Spo another sniper, especially one who is a competent defender.

[Profound23]

I think some of you guys are too in love with Sexton and Quickley

[emunney]

I think some of you guys are too in love with Sexton and Quickley

Maybe, maybe not. I still have no interest in Sexton but would happily trade the '29 FRP unprotected for Quickley and give him the 100m extension he's after if it came to that.

[German Athens]

I think quickley is a mini-leap away from being a top 50 player, but even without one is worth $100 million contract and that ‘29 first.


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[BroncoBuck]

I think quickley is a mini-leap away from being a top 50 player, but even without one is worth $100 million contract and that ‘29 first.


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That would be quite a large leap. He was downright awful in the playoffs.

[Badgerlander]

I think some of you guys are too in love with Sexton and Quickley

Maybe, maybe not. I still have no interest in Sexton but would happily trade the '29 FRP unprotected for Quickley and give him the 100m extension he's after if it came to that.

Yeah Knicks defense was league best by a mile with him on the floor

[fansinceforever]

I'm in love with the idea of the Bucks having a single three-level and iso scoring Guard in a league that requires it in the playoffs.

I don't know if Sexton can do it in the playoffs but he's got a better shot than anyone currently on the roster.

I don't know much about Quickley but if he fits the bill then I'm ready to give up the '29 first for either.

[Badgerlander]

Since 2020, Herro’s allowed 1.10 points per possession when defending an isolation, according to Second Spectrum, which ranks 141st out of 144 players with at least 300 isos defended in that span. Only teammate Duncan Robinson, Terry Rozier, and Tim Hardaway Jr. were worse.

Over the last two seasons, Herro’s tallied only 1.6 assists for every turnover. That ratio ranks 60th out of 66 players with 500-plus assists over that span.

That dismal showing might be small-sample noise, as Herro’s shot abandoned him for a few weeks in 2022. The result still isn’t pretty—out of 88 players who have attempted at least 75 3-pointers over the past three postseasons, Herro ranks 87th in accuracy, ahead of only Giannis—but it doesn’t mean Herro is doomed forever.

Woof. Yeah no Herro, no Sexton, and no Rozier please

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