Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated

[jokeboy86]

He's better than Luka honestly.

Dude has already led his to the ECF.

Luka doesn't get far in the playoffs.

Ever heard of the *checks notes* WESTERN conference finals?

Don't you understand Luka has never led his team to the ECF, and Trae has. These are the players who have never in their career done what Trae Young did by leading his team to the ECF:

Tim Duncan
Dirk Nowitzki
Kobe Bryant
Magic Johnson
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Hakeem Olajuwon
Steph Curry
Nikola Jokic
Steve Nash
Magic Johnson
Karl Malone
John Stockton

That's quite a list of players who've never done what Trae Young has done.

[JustBuzzin]

He's better than Luka honestly.

Dude has already led his to the ECF.

Luka doesn't get far in the playoffs.

You're absolutely right and this need to be noted that Luka has never led his team to the Eastern Conference Finals....



Because he doesn't play in the East. But he has led his team to the Western Conference Finals

How did I forget Luka made the WCF.

Oh well I still think Trae is better.

[hoosierdaddy34]

I don’t see how Trae Young gets selected to the Paris team either. I count 10 locks right now, granted some of them may not play but given next years games are in Paris? The draw to play will be great for many players. Probably more so than your average Olympics. So let’s say 8 of the (locks) commit. That leaves 8 guys in Trae’s tier to compete for the 1 or 2 available guard spots. And that’s not even counting young guys like Cade Cunningham who could have a monster year. And what happens if Morant has a big year, causes no issues and wants to play to help rehabilitate his image? He’s a better player than Trae.You’d also think if a guy like Jalen Brunson or Anthony Edwards have a big FIBA tournament? They are going to have a serious leg up on everyone else competing for that spot.

I just don’t see how Trae gets in unless he drastically improves his shooting and defense this year. Especially given I don’t think any of the Team USA coaches of current or past are a fan of his. I think as small guards, Brunson and Fox have a leg up on him.

Bigs (3 or 4)

Embiid (lock)
Draymond (Lock)
AD
JJJ
Bam

Wings (4 or 5)

LeBron (lock)
Tatum (lock)
KD (Lock)
Butler (Lock)
Kawhi Leonard (lock)
Mykel Bridges
Jaylon Brown
Paul George


Guards (4 or 5)

Steph (lock)
Lillard (Lock)
Booker (lock)
Jalen Brunson
Donovan Mitchell
Kyrie Irving
Trae Young
D’Aaron Fox
Anthony Edwards
Tyrese Halliburton
Ja Morant

[JustBuzzin]

I don’t see how Trae Young gets selected to the Paris team either. I count 10 locks right now, granted some of them may not play but given next years games are in Paris? The draw to play will be great for many players. Probably more so than your average Olympics. So let’s say 8 of the (locks) commit. That leaves 8 guys in Trae’s tier to compete for the 1 or 2 available guard spots. And that’s not even counting young guys like Cade Cunningham who could have a monster year. You’d also think if a guy like Jalen Brunson or Anthony Edwards have a big FIBA tournament? They are going to have a serious leg up on everyone else competing for that spot.

I just don’t see how Trae gets in unless he drastically improves his shooting and defense this year. Especially given I don’t think any of the Team USA coaches of current or past are a fan of his.

Bigs (3 or 4)

Embiid (lock)
Draymond (Lock)
AD
JJJ
Bam

Wings (4 or 5)

LeBron (lock)
Tatum (lock)
KD (Lock)
Butler (Lock)
Kawhi Leonard (lock)
Mykel Bridges
Jaylon Brown
Paul George


Guards (4 or 5)

Steph (lock)
Lillard (Lock)
Booker (lock)
Jalen Brunson
Donovan Mitchell
Kyrie Irving
Trae Young
D’Aaron Fox
Anthony Edwards
Tyrese Halliburton
Ja Morant

Half those locks not even playing.

You really think Lebron is playing at 39?

He has nothing left to prove. Draymond aint going either if his buddy Lebron not playing. AD is a no because of injury concerns. Kawhi is not playing cmon bro.

[hoosierdaddy34]

I don’t see how Trae Young gets selected to the Paris team either. I count 10 locks right now, granted some of them may not play but given next years games are in Paris? The draw to play will be great for many players. Probably more so than your average Olympics. So let’s say 8 of the (locks) commit. That leaves 8 guys in Trae’s tier to compete for the 1 or 2 available guard spots. And that’s not even counting young guys like Cade Cunningham who could have a monster year. You’d also think if a guy like Jalen Brunson or Anthony Edwards have a big FIBA tournament? They are going to have a serious leg up on everyone else competing for that spot.

I just don’t see how Trae gets in unless he drastically improves his shooting and defense this year. Especially given I don’t think any of the Team USA coaches of current or past are a fan of his.

Bigs (3 or 4)

Embiid (lock)
Draymond (Lock)
AD
JJJ
Bam

Wings (4 or 5)

LeBron (lock)
Tatum (lock)
KD (Lock)
Butler (Lock)
Kawhi Leonard (lock)
Mykel Bridges
Jaylon Brown
Paul George


Guards (4 or 5)

Steph (lock)
Lillard (Lock)
Booker (lock)
Jalen Brunson
Donovan Mitchell
Kyrie Irving
Trae Young
D’Aaron Fox
Anthony Edwards
Tyrese Halliburton
Ja Morant

Half those locks not even playing.

You really think Lebron is playing at 39?

He has nothing left to prove. Draymond aint going either if his buddy Lebron not playing. AD is a no because of injury concerns. Kawhi is not playing cmon bro.

Yeah it’s in Paris. I think a lot of guys that wouldn’t normally will very much consider it. Plus it’s a lot of these dudes very last chance. It has nothing to do with “left to prove” and more about these guys possibly doing it because of the experience. Like Kobe in 2012…just enjoying and being an ambassador for the sport. The draw will be very strong for many of them this time.

Also interesting that none of those dudes you mentioned are guards. Team USA isn’t taking 7 guards…so Trae’s predicament isn’t effected if any of those dudes don’t play. You aren’t replacing LeBron or Draymond with Trae. LMAO

[Ito]

Team USA bouta get embarrassed.. are they forgetting there’s top NBA players too that’s gon represent their countries.. they gota put together a real super squad and stop the BS

[JustBuzzin]

I don’t see how Trae Young gets selected to the Paris team either. I count 10 locks right now, granted some of them may not play but given next years games are in Paris? The draw to play will be great for many players. Probably more so than your average Olympics. So let’s say 8 of the (locks) commit. That leaves 8 guys in Trae’s tier to compete for the 1 or 2 available guard spots. And that’s not even counting young guys like Cade Cunningham who could have a monster year. You’d also think if a guy like Jalen Brunson or Anthony Edwards have a big FIBA tournament? They are going to have a serious leg up on everyone else competing for that spot.

I just don’t see how Trae gets in unless he drastically improves his shooting and defense this year. Especially given I don’t think any of the Team USA coaches of current or past are a fan of his.

Bigs (3 or 4)

Embiid (lock)
Draymond (Lock)
AD
JJJ
Bam

Wings (4 or 5)

LeBron (lock)
Tatum (lock)
KD (Lock)
Butler (Lock)
Kawhi Leonard (lock)
Mykel Bridges
Jaylon Brown
Paul George


Guards (4 or 5)

Steph (lock)
Lillard (Lock)
Booker (lock)
Jalen Brunson
Donovan Mitchell
Kyrie Irving
Trae Young
D’Aaron Fox
Anthony Edwards
Tyrese Halliburton
Ja Morant

Half those locks not even playing.

You really think Lebron is playing at 39?

He has nothing left to prove. Draymond aint going either if his buddy Lebron not playing. AD is a no because of injury concerns. Kawhi is not playing cmon bro.

Yeah it’s in Paris. I think a lot of guys that wouldn’t normally will very much consider it. Plus it’s a lot of these dudes very last chance. It has nothing to do with “left to prove” and more about these guys possibly doing it because of the experience. Like Kobe in 2012…just enjoying and being an ambassador for the sport. The draw will be very strong for many of them this time.

Also interesting that none of those dudes you mentioned are guards. Team USA isn’t taking 7 guards…so Trae’s predicament isn’t effected if any of those dudes don’t play. You aren’t replacing LeBron or Draymond with Trae. LMAO

You think these dudes never been to Paris?

Im not even talking about Trae btw. I was just looking at your list of locks and thinking half of them are likely not locks.

[hoosierdaddy34]

Half those locks not even playing.

You really think Lebron is playing at 39?

He has nothing left to prove. Draymond aint going either if his buddy Lebron not playing. AD is a no because of injury concerns. Kawhi is not playing cmon bro.

Yeah it’s in Paris. I think a lot of guys that wouldn’t normally will very much consider it. Plus it’s a lot of these dudes very last chance. It has nothing to do with “left to prove” and more about these guys possibly doing it because of the experience. Like Kobe in 2012…just enjoying and being an ambassador for the sport. The draw will be very strong for many of them this time.

Also interesting that none of those dudes you mentioned are guards. Team USA isn’t taking 7 guards…so Trae’s predicament isn’t effected if any of those dudes don’t play. You aren’t replacing LeBron or Draymond with Trae. LMAO

You think these dudes never been to Paris?

Im not even talking about Trae btw. I was just looking at your list of locks and thinking half of them are likely not locks.

I think you are a little crazy if you don’t think the Olympics in Paris is a bigger deal than most Olympics. I think it definitely is a bigger draw to guys.

They are locks if they choose to play. Undoubtedly they are locks. They sure as hell aren’t getting left off the team if they say they are playing. That’s the very definition of “a lock”. The spot is theirs if they want it.

And frankly dude, you don’t know what these guys are thinking. Foolish if you are going to blindly predict who is and who isn’t going to play. You definitely don’t know.

[meekrab]

Trae is like if Allen Iverson shot 3s and was a terrible teammate. You need a historically great team defense to make up for him.

[Dan Z]

Trae is like if Allen Iverson shot 3s and was a terrible teammate. You need a historically great team defense to make up for him.

What's bad about him as a teammate? I don't know the details.

[meekrab]

Trae is like if Allen Iverson shot 3s and was a terrible teammate. You need a historically great team defense to make up for him.

What's bad about him as a teammate? I don't know the details.

He's seen as immature, selfish, not a leader and unconcerned with his teammates.

[Ball4life32]

Trae is like if Allen Iverson shot 3s and was a terrible teammate. You need a historically great team defense to make up for him.

What's bad about him as a teammate? I don't know the details.

He's seen as immature, selfish, not a leader and unconcerned with his teammates.

According to one “anonymous rival nba executive” he is. Never seen any formers teammates say anything negative like that. Maybe he’s immature but don’t think he’s the other things.

[meekrab]

What's bad about him as a teammate? I don't know the details.

He's seen as immature, selfish, not a leader and unconcerned with his teammates.

According to one “anonymous rival nba executive” he is. Never seen any formers teammates say anything negative like that. Maybe he’s immature but don’t think he’s the other things.

Maybe you just haven't read enough gossip.

[ShootersShoot]

I don’t see how Trae Young gets selected to the Paris team either. I count 10 locks right now, granted some of them may not play but given next years games are in Paris? The draw to play will be great for many players. Probably more so than your average Olympics. So let’s say 8 of the (locks) commit. That leaves 8 guys in Trae’s tier to compete for the 1 or 2 available guard spots. And that’s not even counting young guys like Cade Cunningham who could have a monster year. You’d also think if a guy like Jalen Brunson or Anthony Edwards have a big FIBA tournament? They are going to have a serious leg up on everyone else competing for that spot.

I just don’t see how Trae gets in unless he drastically improves his shooting and defense this year. Especially given I don’t think any of the Team USA coaches of current or past are a fan of his.

Bigs (3 or 4)

Embiid (lock)
Draymond (Lock)
AD
JJJ
Bam

Wings (4 or 5)

LeBron (lock)
Tatum (lock)
KD (Lock)
Butler (Lock)
Kawhi Leonard (lock)
Mykel Bridges
Jaylon Brown
Paul George


Guards (4 or 5)

Steph (lock)
Lillard (Lock)
Booker (lock)
Jalen Brunson
Donovan Mitchell
Kyrie Irving
Trae Young
D’Aaron Fox
Anthony Edwards
Tyrese Halliburton
Ja Morant

Half those locks not even playing.

You really think Lebron is playing at 39?

He has nothing left to prove. Draymond aint going either if his buddy Lebron not playing. AD is a no because of injury concerns. Kawhi is not playing cmon bro.

Yeah it’s in Paris. I think a lot of guys that wouldn’t normally will very much consider it. Plus it’s a lot of these dudes very last chance. It has nothing to do with “left to prove” and more about these guys possibly doing it because of the experience. Like Kobe in 2012…just enjoying and being an ambassador for the sport. The draw will be very strong for many of them this time.

Also interesting that none of those dudes you mentioned are guards. Team USA isn’t taking 7 guards…so Trae’s predicament isn’t effected if any of those dudes don’t play. You aren’t replacing LeBron or Draymond with Trae. LMAO

I can see just about every guard being interested save maybe kyrie who has been on 2 fiba world cup teams and 2 olympic teams since 2010. Steph, while he has played fiba, has never in the olympics. I can see him wanting to play as this will be most likely the last chance he gets. He can be the veteran guy kinda like jkidd in 2008 and kobe in 2012. Gonna be tough for trae to get an invite although guys can decline and injuries can happen. I think brunson and hali will be ahead of him as well for olympic consideration.

[JustBuzzin]

Yeah it’s in Paris. I think a lot of guys that wouldn’t normally will very much consider it. Plus it’s a lot of these dudes very last chance. It has nothing to do with “left to prove” and more about these guys possibly doing it because of the experience. Like Kobe in 2012…just enjoying and being an ambassador for the sport. The draw will be very strong for many of them this time.

Also interesting that none of those dudes you mentioned are guards. Team USA isn’t taking 7 guards…so Trae’s predicament isn’t effected if any of those dudes don’t play. You aren’t replacing LeBron or Draymond with Trae. LMAO

You think these dudes never been to Paris?

Im not even talking about Trae btw. I was just looking at your list of locks and thinking half of them are likely not locks.

I think you are a little crazy if you don’t think the Olympics in Paris is a bigger deal than most Olympics. I think it definitely is a bigger draw to guys.

They are locks if they choose to play. Undoubtedly they are locks. They sure as hell aren’t getting left off the team if they say they are playing. That’s the very definition of “a lock”. The spot is theirs if they want it.

And frankly dude, you don’t know what these guys are thinking. Foolish if you are going to blindly predict who is and who isn’t going to play. You definitely don’t know.

So it's okay for you to know who is playing but not for me.

Goodbye!

[SkyHook]

If I had said ridiculously overrated I would have been quick to agree.

[Rainwater]

lol I've got no problem ranking him. Here's my list:

1. Jokic
2. Giannis
3. Luka
4. Steph
5. Embiid
6. LeBron
7. Jimmy Butler
8. Damian Lillard
9. Tatum
10. KD
11. AD
12. Ja Morant
13. Donovan Mitchell
14. SGA
15. Devin Booker
16. Jaren Jackson Jr.
17. Kawhi (top 10 if healthy)
18. Trae Young
19. Haliburton
20. Paul George
21. DeAaron Fox
22. Jamal Murray
23. Kyrie
24. Bam
25. Jalen Brunson/Harden

These are give or take a few things, takes into consideration availability, ceiling, consistent output, most recent pinnacles.

Trae is not better than any of those guys below him.

So he’s not even a top 26 player according to this board but he’s also overrated? Which one is it?

I think the media has overhyped him to seem better than what he really is. It’s similar to what they did to Andre Drummond a few years ago although I don’t think he is nearly as bad.

[Rainwater]

Team USA bouta get embarrassed.. are they forgetting there’s top NBA players too that’s gon represent their countries.. they gota put together a real super squad and stop the BS

Yeah, I completely agree. When the USA sends its best players or super squad it’s typically not that close. I don’t think creating a farm system is all that necessary. But it is a matter of convincing these stars to play.

[DaPessimist]

Can you be both underrated and overrated?

I think Trae's main problem is fit. He's not good enough to win a title as a ball dominant #1 option, and I'm not sure his skillset would fit as a #2 or #3 option. So where does he fit on a title contending team?

As other have mentioned, he needs to work on his off-ball game and turnover rate, because he's never going to be a good defender. If he can improve those aspects of his game, I could see him winning a title as a #2 option with a dominant big/wing.

[Rainwater]

a 43/35/89 2.5 apg/to PG who is the worst defender in the entire league having to thread defending that he´s underrated show how overrated he is.

But yes, he went to the ECF once.

He has those splits on 26/9/3 career averages and 58 Ts% plus worst defense according to what? Maybe in the past but not anymore.

TS% is a terrible stat to gauge efficiency, it’s only a good stat to gauge how good of a scorer a player could be. Trae’s TS% is held up by the fact he gets to the free throw line not necessarily because he is all that efficient. 26 points per game is terrible if you are shooting 43%. If you don’t think Trae is a terrible defender I don’t think you have watched him play.