ItsDanger wrote:PEDs are tied to increase risk of cardiomyopathy. Anyone here claiming otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.
Literally nobody is claiming otherwise.
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ItsDanger wrote:PEDs are tied to increase risk of cardiomyopathy. Anyone here claiming otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.
Big J wrote:EvanZ wrote:Big J wrote:
PED testing in the NBA is a joke. Everyone knows this. You think the league wants Bron to get outed for testing positive for roids? Also, these guys have drug manufacturers that can change the tiniest molecules of a PED to make it undetectable by the silly little tests the NBA does.
Welp, there it is. Conspiracy theory confirmed. As long as your cards are on the table.
Lol, are you being paid by Adam Silver? This is pretty much agreed upon by most people who know the league.
EvanZ wrote:ItsDanger wrote:PEDs are tied to increase risk of cardiomyopathy. Anyone here claiming otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.
Literally nobody is claiming otherwise.
azcatz11 wrote:EvanZ wrote:ItsDanger wrote:PEDs are tied to increase risk of cardiomyopathy. Anyone here claiming otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.
Literally nobody is claiming otherwise.
You’ve been implying it. People are rightly calling you out
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
EvanZ wrote:Clearly the understanding of PEDs here is bordering on comical.
First of all the NBA randomly tests throughout the season for steroids. Second, you don't have to be a rich NBA player, let alone LeBron, to get access to high quality steroids. Millions and millions of gym bros (and ladies) in America are on gear. It's easy AF to get access to. Third, the idea that literally it's only LeBron on roids and not Steph, Giannis....they'd all be on it. Fourth, you literally just have to look at guys like Chet, Poku, etc. who would clearly benefit the most from PEDs and yet they remain "hard gainers" for life. You don't think Poku and Chet would be on gear if they could get it so easily? Of course they would.
So yeah, if you're going to come at Bronny accusing him of PED's because you think his dad is on PED's you have a burden of proof. So far, I have seen literally ZERO proof. ZEEEEEEEERO.
ItsDanger wrote:No proof he didn't use them either. ZERO.
EvanZ wrote:This is, btw, why we are presumed innocent until proven guilty. You heard of that before?
azcatz11 wrote:EvanZ wrote:This is, btw, why we are presumed innocent until proven guilty. You heard of that before?
Why don’t you tell us what happened? Sounds like you know the entire story?
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
NO-KG-AI wrote:Cardiomyopathy is expected to effect between 1 in 200 to 1 in 500 people. Is there proof that more basketball players are effected than 1-200?
If the default is to assume NBA players are on PEDs, which is not unreasonable, you have to apply it to all NBA players from probably the 70’s and 80’s onward.
We’re not seeing players rushed off the court at a rate of higher than 1-200 to 1-500, are we?
EvanZ wrote:NO-KG-AI wrote:Cardiomyopathy is expected to effect between 1 in 200 to 1 in 500 people. Is there proof that more basketball players are effected than 1-200?
If the default is to assume NBA players are on PEDs, which is not unreasonable, you have to apply it to all NBA players from probably the 70’s and 80’s onward.
We’re not seeing players rushed off the court at a rate of higher than 1-200 to 1-500, are we?
There's some selection bias here. There have been players that have never made it to the NBA because their heart issues were already detected. Plenty of those. Bronny may be another.
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
EvanZ wrote:Read and learn. Nothing about PEDs in here.
https://www.utphysicians.com/what-to-know-about-sudden-cardiac-arrest-in-young-athletes/
What is the reality here that some don't seem to comprehend is that the overwhelming probability is that Bronny had some congenital heart issue that caused this.
EvanZ wrote:EvanZ wrote:Read and learn. Nothing about PEDs in here.
https://www.utphysicians.com/what-to-know-about-sudden-cardiac-arrest-in-young-athletes/
What is the reality here that some don't seem to comprehend is that the overwhelming probability is that Bronny had some congenital heart issue that caused this.
Who could have seen it coming?
https://theathletic.com/4806841/2023/08/25/bronny-james-cardiac-arrest-cause/?source=user_shared_article