Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . .

[ddb]

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I know that the off court incident Davis had a few yrs ago is a red flag, but look at this defense, man. Look at how quick he moves his feet. And this is in the playoffs vs the Warriors. Then he hits the 3 spotting up.

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For a bench player not playing a ton of mins, he has shot the 3 with good volume - while shooting a good % from 3 pretty consistently as well. So he checks a few different boxes. 26 yrs old, so entering his prime - still might have some untapped potential.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PH6IR_hrT5w

Putting the clamps on Klay and then hitting a 3 while drifting to the left is good NBA basketball, even if just for one play.

Get it done Brad!

I know training camp is over a month away, but I'd like to get the roster set. Seems like the next couple weeks is when we'll see some of the FA vets start to capitulate for the available dollars. Brad needs to find that sweet spot and get a good player at good value but before the cupboard is bare.

Sure seems like some of the remaining free agents are getting intel from their agents to hang on until after the Dame situation goes down. Makes sense, because if a Blazers/Heat deal happens it'll be a handful of guys leaving Miami in exchange for 1 or 2, leaving multiple roster spots AND MINUTES available..Living in Miami with a shot at competing for a title is a good arrangement for guys like Danny Green, etc.

[ddb]

Doesn't Danny Green want to sign in Miami post Dame?

Not that I'm aware of. There was a video I saw where he said he's talking to a team and it kind of hinted that the team might be Miami, but we don't know for sure and there's no guarantee Miami gets Dame..

Perhaps Brad knows Danny wants to go to Miami though, and that's why we've been linked to other guys like Svi, Terence Davis and Austin Rivers instead.

Can Brad sign both Svi Mykhailiuk and Terence Davis without pulling those apron strings? That would make the offseason a solid A.

Timelord/Porzingis/Tatum/Brown/White

Horford/ Kornet
Brissett/ Walsh
Mykhailiuk/ Hauser
Brogdon/ Davis
Pritchard/ Banton

Depth at every position.

I think the goal is to have internal competition for 8th, 9th, 10th man minutes. With the roster as-is, there's a locked in Top 7, and I'd say with confidence that Pritchard & Hauser will get first crack at earning 8th/9th men minutes. Celts are going to need those two as floor spacing scoring threats. Both good shooters. I'd like to see them both succeed and have a good season.
My guess is that within the first 15-games Jordan Walsh will earn his way into real playing time. I have a GREAT feeling about him. 19 years old, big-time recruit coming out of high school. Prototypical size & length for an NBA wing, but what I really like about him is he plays with passion and has terrific defensive versatility & instincts. The obvious thing with Walsh is he'll need to prove two things to the coaching staff. First, can he defend at a high level with patience and without frequently fouling. Second, he needs to prove that he can knock down an open 3 at a respectable clip. If he's 34-38% from 3, defending at a high level, and capable of making the right reads, he is in. But then again, he's 19 so we all need to temper our expectations. I really hope the coaching staff challenges him and he flourishes because I think there's a real chance, he can solidify himself as a core piece of this team for years to come. Having him as an impactful rotation guy on a rookie scale deal would be HUGE for this team factoring in the large contracts their top guys are on.

As far as remaining roster spots are concerned. I'd like to see Brad sign 1 mentor type veteran, like a Blake Griffin, Danny Green, or someone like that. The second spot a younger guy that has a chance at competing in that group vying for 8th, 9th, 10th man minutes.

[cl2117]

What can you say...
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10085295-ranking-the-nbas-best-superstar-duos-right-now

Ranking the NBA's Best Superstar Duos Right Now
GREG SWARTZ
AUGUST 8, 2023

Superstar duos in the NBA are as timeless as the game itself. When examining rosters across the league, the 2023-24 season will be no exception.

When identifying which teams possess the best duos, however, a number of factors will be considered.

Stars not only need to be individually great, but also prove they can mesh well with their co-stars, meaning we'll be taking into account lineup data here. A team's success with both players on the court last season with be heavily taken into consideration for these rankings, with help from CleaningtheGlass.com.

We'll also be using estimated plus-minus and estimated wins data from DunksandThrees.com, which help measure the value of individual players while taking into account both offense and defense.

Adding these numbers up while projecting player progression and regression, injury history and current trade requests has given us a clear picture of the top five (plus some honorable mentions) superstar duos for 2023-24.

Honorable Mention

Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, Boston Celtics

Even with six years of experience and a trip to the NBA Finals together, Tatum and Brown fell short of cracking the top five here.

Brown's EPM score of plus-2.6 ranked just 46th overall in the NBA, and the two stars combined for a modest plus-5.2 net rating in 3,376 total possessions together, which was actually lower than Boston's overall net of plus-6.9.

Both are still improving and should be tied to each other for years to come with Brown's new monster deal and another coming for Tatum next summer, although some overlapping skills hold them back from the league's elite here.

I don't have an issue with 4 out of the top 5 but it is a travesty that Doncic & Irving are ahead of Tatum and Brown. Dallas might not even make the playoffs this year and Kyrie is always going to tank the team he's on. Can't get on board with that.

I've got KD/Booker as better because Booker>Brown, but I've got KD and Tatum on the same level. Giannis is the best player on the planet so any reasonable pairing with him deserves a top slot and Jrue is more than reasonable. Joker and Jamal just won the chip so obviously are ahead. LeBron and AD are on the downswing rather than the upswing, they might warrant being ahead of the Jays but not for long.

I've got Tatum/Brown as clear top 5.

[31to6]

Doesn't Danny Green want to sign in Miami post Dame?

Not that I'm aware of. There was a video I saw where he said he's talking to a team and it kind of hinted that the team might be Miami, but we don't know for sure and there's no guarantee Miami gets Dame..

Perhaps Brad knows Danny wants to go to Miami though, and that's why we've been linked to other guys like Svi, Terence Davis and Austin Rivers instead.

Can Brad sign both Svi Mykhailiuk and Terence Davis without pulling those apron strings? That would make the offseason a solid A.

Timelord/Porzingis/Tatum/Brown/White

Horford/ Kornet
Brissett/ Walsh
Mykhailiuk/ Hauser
Brogdon/ Davis
Pritchard/ Banton

Depth at every position.

We need some of our cap experts to chime in here, but I assume it’d be easier if they could find someone willing to trade a late 1st or a couple of seconds for Pritchard. I assume that with Pritchard on the roster, the 15th roster spot stays vacant due to $$ concerns. Send him out and maybe you can sign two of Davis, Svi, Javonte Green, Ish Smith, or Blake — can you even think about using the TPMLE in that case? (might help land Davis, or even think bigger like Oubre?)

DW/JB/JT/RW/KP
MB/Davis/Oubre/Oshae/Al
Banton/Walsh/Hauser/Blake/Kornet

That’s my perfect summer, don’t know if the $$ work, and if it’s too much money just delete Oubre and move Hauser back into the 2nd string where he belongs. Davis can be Javonte or (to a lesser degree) Svi and I’m still happy.

[Hal14]

Not that I'm aware of. There was a video I saw where he said he's talking to a team and it kind of hinted that the team might be Miami, but we don't know for sure and there's no guarantee Miami gets Dame..

Perhaps Brad knows Danny wants to go to Miami though, and that's why we've been linked to other guys like Svi, Terence Davis and Austin Rivers instead.

Can Brad sign both Svi Mykhailiuk and Terence Davis without pulling those apron strings? That would make the offseason a solid A.

Timelord/Porzingis/Tatum/Brown/White

Horford/ Kornet
Brissett/ Walsh
Mykhailiuk/ Hauser
Brogdon/ Davis
Pritchard/ Banton

Depth at every position.

I think the goal is to have internal competition for 8th, 9th, 10th man minutes. With the roster as-is, there's a locked in Top 7, and I'd say with confidence that Pritchard & Hauser will get first crack at earning 8th/9th men minutes. Celts are going to need those two as floor spacing scoring threats. Both good shooters. I'd like to see them both succeed and have a good season.
My guess is that within the first 15-games Jordan Walsh will earn his way into real playing time. I have a GREAT feeling about him. 19 years old, big-time recruit coming out of high school. Prototypical size & length for an NBA wing, but what I really like about him is he plays with passion and has terrific defensive versatility & instincts. The obvious thing with Walsh is he'll need to prove two things to the coaching staff. First, can he defend at a high level with patience and without frequently fouling. Second, he needs to prove that he can knock down an open 3 at a respectable clip. If he's 34-38% from 3, defending at a high level, and capable of making the right reads, he is in. But then again, he's 19 so we all need to temper our expectations. I really hope the coaching staff challenges him and he flourishes because I think there's a real chance, he can solidify himself as a core piece of this team for years to come. Having him as an impactful rotation guy on a rookie scale deal would be HUGE for this team factoring in the large contracts their top guys are on.

As far as remaining roster spots are concerned. I'd like to see Brad sign 1 mentor type veteran, like a Blake Griffin, Danny Green, or someone like that. The second spot a younger guy that has a chance at competing in that group vying for 8th, 9th, 10th man minutes.

I agree with most of that. But I don't fully agree with the bold part. I mean, if Walsh is consistently hitting 3's at that %, then yeah, obviously that would be awesome and it would help his chances of getting minutes - he's get minutes and probably be very hard to pull him off the floor.

With that being said, you look at guys like Thybulle, Lu Dort, Pat Beverley, Smart, Herb Jones, Tony Allen, Caruso, Grant Williams (his rookie year), Vanderbilt, etc. The list goes on - guys who were decent rotation players who were not consistently hitting 34% or higher from 3. Of course, most of these guys were ELITE defensively, like really elite, all-NBA level defense so it might be a little unfair to Walsh to even bring these guys up with him. Walsh could end up being an all-NBA level defender but it's by no means a guarantee and if it happens, it'll probably be a few years from now.

I do agree to some extent, though - on *this* celtics team that has championship aspirations, and has a deep and talented roster with other options in terms of guys we could put in the game instead of Walsh. So yeah, to some extent I agree that it might be tough from him to crack the rotation on *this* Celtics team if the 3 isn't falling at a respectable rate.

But I think it depends on a) what the rest of the roster looks like..do we have guys injured? If so, who? How well is each guy playing? That can factor in to what type of mins he can get and b) how is Walsh coming along with the rest of his game? Maybe he's only hitting 30% on 3's but if he is really wreaking havoc on D, he's getting every loose ball, he's getting rebounds, making some plays on drives to the basket, he's making slick passes for dimes, etc. then he could get minutes.

With all of that being said, I am optimistic for his shooting. He shot the ball well (over 40% from 3) in summer league and while that's a small sample size of games, the volume of shots in each game was pretty high and he's been shooting a ton of volume in practice/workouts during the offseason. I'm sure a lot of us have read this by now, but in case anyone missed it in the Jordan Walsh thread:

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2023/07/19/celtics-rookie-jordan-walsh-improved-jumper-nba-draft/

One of the better articles I've read in awhile.

[Larry_Russell]

Jericho Sims for a protected first
Aaron Wiggins for nothing

White/Pritchard/Banton - Davidson 2wp
Brown/Brogdon/Wiggins - Scrubb 2wp
Tatum/Hauser/Walsh
Porzingas/Horford/Brissett
Timelord/Sims/Kornet

[Hal14]

Jericho Sims for a protected first
Aaron Wiggins for nothing

White/Pritchard/Banton - Davidson 2wp
Brown/Brogdon/Wiggins - Scrubb 2wp
Tatum/Hauser/Walsh
Porzingas/Horford/Brissett
Timelord/Sims/Kornet

Jericho Sims is not that good. He'll be 25 when the season starts, been in the league for 2 seasons already and hasn't done anything yet. Nobody is giving up a 1st round pick for a guy who is buried at the end of his team's bench.

Also, he's a project big man. If you're gonna take on a project big man, you're probably gonna do it with someone who's younger, that you can actually develop and have them reach a higher ceiling.

Sims can dunk and can't do much else. He's closer to being the next kabengele than being a guy who could contribute to a championship contender like the Celtics.

Brad has displayed a strong preference for proven vets who are age 26+ when acquiring players via trades/free agency. So Sims and Wiggins (both age 24) seem unlikely.

Wiggins can actually play and could be a good fit on this Celtics team, but OKC is going to be a playoff team this season so they're not gonna just trade one of their rotation players for nothing. And the Celtics probably aren't going to give up assets with much value for a guy who's just gonna be the 8th or 9th man.

[Larry_Russell]

Jericho Sims for a protected first
Aaron Wiggins for nothing

White/Pritchard/Banton - Davidson 2wp
Brown/Brogdon/Wiggins - Scrubb 2wp
Tatum/Hauser/Walsh
Porzingas/Horford/Brissett
Timelord/Sims/Kornet

Jericho Sims is not that good. He'll be 25 when the season starts, been in the league for 2 seasons already and hasn't done anything yet. Nobody is giving up a 1st round pick for a guy who is buried at the end of his team's bench.

Also, he's a project big man. If you're gonna take on a project big man, you're probably gonna do it with someone who's younger, that you can actually develop and have them reach a higher ceiling.

Sims can dunk and can't do much else. He's closer to being the next kabengele than being a guy who could contribute to a championship contender like the Celtics.

Brad has displayed a strong preference for proven vets who are age 26+ when acquiring players via trades/free agency. So Sims and Wiggins (both age 24) seem unlikely.

Wiggins can actually play and could be a good fit on this Celtics team, but OKC is going to be a playoff team this season so they're not gonna just trade one of their rotation players for nothing. And the Celtics probably aren't going to give up assets with much value for a guy who's just gonna be the 8th or 9th man.

So simms is too young and too old. lol.

we are not going to get any players of value that we can just fit into a tpe. you realize that right?

Sims is an energy bigman who is a pick and roll rim runner, rebounder, dunker and interior defender. He brings a skill set different than Kornet off the bench. Thats a good thing. If Rob is out you need a big who who can fill the role of energy, hustle and screen setting.

He is not going to be an allstar based on current trajectory, but he is a rotation player

OKC has a massive roster crunch.

PGs SGA, MANN, Butler, Micic. Washington Jr
SG: Dort, Dipo, Wallace, Williams, Joe, Wiggins
SF: Giddey, Nwaba, White, Kenrich
PF: Chet, Bertrans, Poku, Dieng, Robinson-Earl
C: Williams, Garuba, Sarr

They are going to drop a wings, and its not going to be SGA, Mann, Micic, Dort, Williams, Wallace, Joe

[Hal14]

Jericho Sims for a protected first
Aaron Wiggins for nothing

White/Pritchard/Banton - Davidson 2wp
Brown/Brogdon/Wiggins - Scrubb 2wp
Tatum/Hauser/Walsh
Porzingas/Horford/Brissett
Timelord/Sims/Kornet

Jericho Sims is not that good. He'll be 25 when the season starts, been in the league for 2 seasons already and hasn't done anything yet. Nobody is giving up a 1st round pick for a guy who is buried at the end of his team's bench.

Also, he's a project big man. If you're gonna take on a project big man, you're probably gonna do it with someone who's younger, that you can actually develop and have them reach a higher ceiling.

Sims can dunk and can't do much else. He's closer to being the next kabengele than being a guy who could contribute to a championship contender like the Celtics.

Brad has displayed a strong preference for proven vets who are age 26+ when acquiring players via trades/free agency. So Sims and Wiggins (both age 24) seem unlikely.

Wiggins can actually play and could be a good fit on this Celtics team, but OKC is going to be a playoff team this season so they're not gonna just trade one of their rotation players for nothing. And the Celtics probably aren't going to give up assets with much value for a guy who's just gonna be the 8th or 9th man.

So simms is too young and too old. lol.

we are not going to get any players of value that we can just fit into a tpe. you realize that right?

Sims is an energy bigman who is a pick and roll rim runner, rebounder, dunker and interior defender. He brings a skill set different than Kornet off the bench. Thats a good thing. If Rob is out you need a big who who can fill the role of energy, hustle and screen setting.

He is not going to be an allstar based on current trajectory, but he is a rotation player

OKC has a massive roster crunch.

PGs SGA, MANN, Butler, Micic. Washington Jr
SG: Dort, Dipo, Wallace, Williams, Joe, Wiggins
SF: Giddey, Nwaba, White, Kenrich
PF: Chet, Bertrans, Poku, Dieng, Robinson-Earl
C: Williams, Garuba, Sarr

They are going to drop a wings, and its not going to be SGA, Mann, Micic, Dort, Williams, Wallace, Joe

OKC's top 11 players, the ones who are safe from being waived and a team would have to trade valuable assets to get any of them are:

SGA
Giddey
Jalen
Chet
Dort
Kenrich
Jaylin
Micic
Wallace
Wiggins
Dieng

Then these guys will likely not get waived. OKC would probably be willing to trade them and the price tag probably wouldn't be that high:

Mann
Joe
Poku

That's 14 guys. Then you have Bertans and Oladipo. Both with guaranteed contracts (Bertans for $17 mil and Oladipo for $9 mil). I'm sure OKC is trying to trade both if them but if they're not able to trade them, perhaps they will buy them out to help alleviate the roster crunch. Or they keep both and have to waive either Mann, Joe or Poku.

The rest of the guys could be waived, or possibly traded (for not much value) or possibly make the team if they trade/waive some of the other guys:

Washington
Garuba
Jack White
Robinson-Earl

Sarr is a free agent, I believe so we're not counting him..Jared Butler signed a 2-way with the Wizards. Nwaba is also a free agent, I believe.

From what some OKC fans have said, there is a decent chance that Wiggins gets traded. But they would probably be looking for some decent value in return. I'm sure they wouldn't get a 1st rounder for him. But definitely a 2nd rounder or 2, so you're not getting him for nothing.

[Dogen]

Jericho Sims for a protected first
Aaron Wiggins for nothing

White/Pritchard/Banton - Davidson 2wp
Brown/Brogdon/Wiggins - Scrubb 2wp
Tatum/Hauser/Walsh
Porzingas/Horford/Brissett
Timelord/Sims/Kornet

Jericho Sims is not that good. He'll be 25 when the season starts, been in the league for 2 seasons already and hasn't done anything yet. Nobody is giving up a 1st round pick for a guy who is buried at the end of his team's bench.

Also, he's a project big man. If you're gonna take on a project big man, you're probably gonna do it with someone who's younger, that you can actually develop and have them reach a higher ceiling.

Sims can dunk and can't do much else. He's closer to being the next kabengele than being a guy who could contribute to a championship contender like the Celtics.

Brad has displayed a strong preference for proven vets who are age 26+ when acquiring players via trades/free agency. So Sims and Wiggins (both age 24) seem unlikely.

Wiggins can actually play and could be a good fit on this Celtics team, but OKC is going to be a playoff team this season so they're not gonna just trade one of their rotation players for nothing. And the Celtics probably aren't going to give up assets with much value for a guy who's just gonna be the 8th or 9th man.

So simms is too young and too old. lol.

we are not going to get any players of value that we can just fit into a tpe. you realize that right?

Sims is an energy bigman who is a pick and roll rim runner, rebounder, dunker and interior defender. He brings a skill set different than Kornet off the bench. Thats a good thing. If Rob is out you need a big who who can fill the role of energy, hustle and screen setting.

He is not going to be an allstar based on current trajectory, but he is a rotation player

OKC has a massive roster crunch.

PGs SGA, MANN, Butler, Micic. Washington Jr
SG: Dort, Dipo, Wallace, Williams, Joe, Wiggins
SF: Giddey, Nwaba, White, Kenrich
PF: Chet, Bertrans, Poku, Dieng, Robinson-Earl
C: Williams, Garuba, Sarr

They are going to drop a wings, and its not going to be SGA, Mann, Micic, Dort, Williams, Wallace, Joe

There needs to be an expansion draft involving OKC, HOU, and ORL. Not a draft to build a new franchise, but to parse out players from those teams and redistribute to the rest of the league as a penalty from being so punch drunk on lottery picks that you keep going back for more every year, ending up with a bunch of good young talent that you can't play or develop. Each of those three teams can protect 7 players.

The Celtics are on the clock with the first pick...

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Happy for guys like Hart, Bruce Brown, and Derrick White. Go get your bags!

[snowman]

Not that I'm aware of. There was a video I saw where he said he's talking to a team and it kind of hinted that the team might be Miami, but we don't know for sure and there's no guarantee Miami gets Dame..

Perhaps Brad knows Danny wants to go to Miami though, and that's why we've been linked to other guys like Svi, Terence Davis and Austin Rivers instead.

Can Brad sign both Svi Mykhailiuk and Terence Davis without pulling those apron strings? That would make the offseason a solid A.

Timelord/Porzingis/Tatum/Brown/White

Horford/ Kornet
Brissett/ Walsh
Mykhailiuk/ Hauser
Brogdon/ Davis
Pritchard/ Banton

Depth at every position.

We need some of our cap experts to chime in here, but I assume it’d be easier if they could find someone willing to trade a late 1st or a couple of seconds for Pritchard. I assume that with Pritchard on the roster, the 15th roster spot stays vacant due to $$ concerns. Send him out and maybe you can sign two of Davis, Svi, Javonte Green, Ish Smith, or Blake — can you even think about using the TPMLE in that case? (might help land Davis, or even think bigger like Oubre?)

DW/JB/JT/RW/KP
MB/Davis/Oubre/Oshae/Al
Banton/Walsh/Hauser/Blake/Kornet

That’s my perfect summer, don’t know if the $$ work, and if it’s too much money just delete Oubre and move Hauser back into the 2nd string where he belongs. Davis can be Javonte or (to a lesser degree) Svi and I’m still happy.

I'm certainly no cap expert, but in looking at Smitty's Spotrac numbers, he has us currently at $4,196,776 below the 2nd apron with 11 players under fully guaranteed contract, and 2 under (Kornet and Banton) under non-guaranteed contract until 1/10/24. I expect both to be fully guaranteed. Both total guarantees are included in his cap figures. So, basically, we have 4.1+ mil to bring in up to 2 players if we want. We have to sign at least one player for the minimum of 14 under contract. Keep in mind that any vet that has been in the league at least three seasons can be signed to a minimum salary one-year contract and only count as a two-year minimum salaried player.

quote from realGM FAQ #22:
When a player has been in the NBA for three or more seasons, and is playing under a one-year, 10-day or Rest-of-Season contract at the minimum salary, the league reimburses the team for part of his salary -- any amount above the minimum salary for a two-year veteran. For example, the minimum salary for a two-year veteran in 2017-18 is $1,471,382, so for a ten-year veteran, with a minimum salary of $2,328,652, the league would reimburse the team $857,270. Only the two-year minimum salary is included in the team salary, not the player's full salary. They do this so teams won't shy away from signing older veterans simply because they are more expensive than younger veterans.

Below are the minimum amounts that a veteran players can sign for on a one year deal and only be counted for a two year minimum deal against the cap.
YOS Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5
0 YOS $1,119,563
1 YOS $1,801,769 $1,891,857
2 YOS $2,019,706 $2,120,693 $2,221,677
3 YOS $2,092,354 $2,196,970 $2,301,587 $2,406,205
4 YOS $2,165,000 $2,273,252 $2,381,501 $2,489,752 $2,598,003
5 YOS $2,346,614 $2,463,946 $2,581,276 $2,698,607 $2,815,938
6 YOS $2,528,233 $2,654,644 $2,781,053 $2,907,465 $3,033,877
7 YOS $2,709,849 $2,845,342 $2,980,834 $3,116,326 $3,251,820
8 YOS $2,891,467 $3,036,040 $3,180,615 $3,325,190 $3,469,764
9 YOS $2,905,861 $3,051,153 $3,196,447 $3,341,740 $3,487,033
10 YOS $3,196,448 $3,356,271 $3,516,095 $3,675,917 $3,835,739

So being $4,196,776 below the 2nd apron, we could, technically, sign 2 vets to one-year minimum deals for $2,019,706 each and still be $157,346 below the 2nd apron. That is why the cap hold for Blake Griffin is $2,019,706 and not the $2,905,851 he signed for.
If I am wrong on this, someone who is a cap expert please correct me.

[Curmudgeon]

So is Mykhailiuk going to play in Boston or Athens?

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Thank God, there's a Patriots game tomorrow...

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[165bows]

Can Brad sign both Svi Mykhailiuk and Terence Davis without pulling those apron strings? That would make the offseason a solid A.

Timelord/Porzingis/Tatum/Brown/White

Horford/ Kornet
Brissett/ Walsh
Mykhailiuk/ Hauser
Brogdon/ Davis
Pritchard/ Banton

Depth at every position.

We need some of our cap experts to chime in here, but I assume it’d be easier if they could find someone willing to trade a late 1st or a couple of seconds for Pritchard. I assume that with Pritchard on the roster, the 15th roster spot stays vacant due to $$ concerns. Send him out and maybe you can sign two of Davis, Svi, Javonte Green, Ish Smith, or Blake — can you even think about using the TPMLE in that case? (might help land Davis, or even think bigger like Oubre?)

DW/JB/JT/RW/KP
MB/Davis/Oubre/Oshae/Al
Banton/Walsh/Hauser/Blake/Kornet

That’s my perfect summer, don’t know if the $$ work, and if it’s too much money just delete Oubre and move Hauser back into the 2nd string where he belongs. Davis can be Javonte or (to a lesser degree) Svi and I’m still happy.

I'm certainly no cap expert, but in looking at Smitty's Spotrac numbers, he has us currently at $4,196,776 below the 2nd apron with 11 players under fully guaranteed contract, and 2 under (Kornet and Banton) under non-guaranteed contract until 1/10/24. I expect both to be fully guaranteed. Both total guarantees are included in his cap figures. So, basically, we have 4.1+ mil to bring in up to 2 players if we want. We have to sign at least one player for the minimum of 14 under contract. Keep in mind that any vet that has been in the league at least three seasons can be signed to a minimum salary one-year contract and only count as a two-year minimum salaried player.

quote from realGM FAQ #22:
When a player has been in the NBA for three or more seasons, and is playing under a one-year, 10-day or Rest-of-Season contract at the minimum salary, the league reimburses the team for part of his salary -- any amount above the minimum salary for a two-year veteran. For example, the minimum salary for a two-year veteran in 2017-18 is $1,471,382, so for a ten-year veteran, with a minimum salary of $2,328,652, the league would reimburse the team $857,270. Only the two-year minimum salary is included in the team salary, not the player's full salary. They do this so teams won't shy away from signing older veterans simply because they are more expensive than younger veterans.

Below are the minimum amounts that a veteran players can sign for on a one year deal and only be counted for a two year minimum deal against the cap.
YOS Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5
0 YOS $1,119,563
1 YOS $1,801,769 $1,891,857
2 YOS $2,019,706 $2,120,693 $2,221,677
3 YOS $2,092,354 $2,196,970 $2,301,587 $2,406,205
4 YOS $2,165,000 $2,273,252 $2,381,501 $2,489,752 $2,598,003
5 YOS $2,346,614 $2,463,946 $2,581,276 $2,698,607 $2,815,938
6 YOS $2,528,233 $2,654,644 $2,781,053 $2,907,465 $3,033,877
7 YOS $2,709,849 $2,845,342 $2,980,834 $3,116,326 $3,251,820
8 YOS $2,891,467 $3,036,040 $3,180,615 $3,325,190 $3,469,764
9 YOS $2,905,861 $3,051,153 $3,196,447 $3,341,740 $3,487,033
10 YOS $3,196,448 $3,356,271 $3,516,095 $3,675,917 $3,835,739

So being $4,196,776 below the 2nd apron, we could, technically, sign 2 vets to one-year minimum deals for $2,019,706 each and still be $157,346 below the 2nd apron. That is why the cap hold for Blake Griffin is $2,019,706 and not the $2,905,851 he signed for.
If I am wrong on this, someone who is a cap expert please correct me.

I think that makes sense. Would also make sense in that vein that they prefer to sign a guy rather than trade for him (like the OKC guys eg).

Could also sign a guy with little to no nba experience for a tiny bit more room.

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Wouldn’t be a proper offseason with the season being ruined before it begins.

[zoyathedestroya]

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Wouldn’t be a proper offseason with the season being ruined before it begins.

On his IG from about 5 hours ago, he has a clip of him doing a shooting drill where he jogs into ATB threes. Either it's a minor foot thing and him not playing is precautionary or it's an old clip or he got injured after those shooting drills and the time of the tweet.

Anyway, kinda expected that we'd be clenching our buttholes the entire season due to injury risk to our three bigs.

[Dogen]

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Wouldn’t be a proper offseason with the season being ruined before it begins.

He can miss EVERYTHING not directly related to playing for the Boston Celtics in 2023 - 2025. We don't need a Gallinari repeat already.

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You might reconsider that bet...

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