Nurkic Lists West Lynn House for Sale

[DusterBuster]

The best indicator I’ve seen going on since LA of player movement… players putting their homes up for sale. Happened with Aldridge, Dame did it this summer (albeit that he was building a new one and will continue to live in Oregon after a trade), and now Nurkic has his house listed up online. A tweet from a reality group that is listing it on his behalf.

Has to make one wonder if there is movement on a Dame deal. Nurkic himself has hinted that he would be part of a Dame deal on Twitter (you’ll never see me calling it X).

[Norm2953]

I've thought all along a Dame trade would happen in September. It might come sooner if another
team entered the picture, injecting a sense of urgency into the equation

[red_power]

Good riddance. I mean, Nurk is a nice dude but Blazers should have moved on from him a few seasons ago.

Yet I'm scared to imagine who will be a Blazers starting center the next season.

[JasonStern]

If Dame goes, it doesn't really make much sense to hold on to Nurkić. But his contract is fairly bloated. I wouldn't hold onto hope of getting anything meaningful back.

[DusterBuster]

I'll never really understand the Nurkic hate for him as a player or his contract. He's a mid level starting quality center and he's paid exactly in-line with what those guys get paid. Particularly with where the CBA is going over the next 4-5 years, what Nurk is going to be making is more on par with bench players in your 6-8 depth range. Calling Nurk overpaid is not keeping up to date with the current CBA realities.

15-17mil is going to be pretty par for the course for just your average serviceable starter type players.

[red_power]

Nurk's contract is worth 150% of MLE and has 3 more years guaranteed. It would have been great to have a pre-injury Jusuf locked on that deal but these days, I mean..
It's obvious Blazers must be happy to simply bail out of this deal without giving up anything meaningful.

On the bright side, it's just 3 years. So in 2 years, this contract will turn into a tasty expiring trade chip. And Blazers are now in the position to wait until that happens.
The bottom line, I would be happy if Portland manages to move him. Nurk is an odd fit with the rebuilding team and I don't think he would be happy to spend the next few years on a losing roster either. And yet, there is no point to jump on any trade to move Nurk as soon as possible either.

[tester551]

I'll never really understand the Nurkic hate for him as a player or his contract. He's a mid level starting quality center and he's paid exactly in-line with what those guys get paid. Particularly with where the CBA is going over the next 4-5 years, what Nurk is going to be making is more on par with bench players in your 6-8 depth range. Calling Nurk overpaid is not keeping up to date with the current CBA realities.

15-17mil is going to be pretty par for the course for just your average serviceable starter type players.

Completely agree.

Nurk is just the current whipping boy.

[BlazersBroncos]

I'll never really understand the Nurkic hate for him as a player or his contract. He's a mid level starting quality center and he's paid exactly in-line with what those guys get paid. Particularly with where the CBA is going over the next 4-5 years, what Nurk is going to be making is more on par with bench players in your 6-8 depth range. Calling Nurk overpaid is not keeping up to date with the current CBA realities.

15-17mil is going to be pretty par for the course for just your average serviceable starter type players.

Completely agree.

Nurk is just the current whipping boy.

I think alot of it is we saw what a pre-injury, young Nurkic looked like and expected a guy that would play his way into being a Top-10 center - which I think he would have if he didnt unfortunatley lose all that mobility when he snapped his leg.

The expectations are still pre-injury Nurkic, which isnt fair. He is a nice player who should be complimented by a bouncy guy (Like a young McGee - something like that) - he is still a quality starter if asked to play 24-26mpg.

[Norm2953]

Nurk is literally Portland's only consistent rebounder. When he's gone, just who on the roster will
have any desire to rebound?

[red_power]

Why does a young tanking team need someone eager to rebound and play defense on its roster?

[DusterBuster]

Nurk's contract is worth 150% of MLE and has 3 more years guaranteed. It would have been great to have a pre-injury Jusuf locked on that deal but these days, I mean..
It's obvious Blazers must be happy to simply bail out of this deal without giving up anything meaningful.

On the bright side, it's just 3 years. So in 2 years, this contract will turn into a tasty expiring trade chip. And Blazers are now in the position to wait until that happens.
The bottom line, I would be happy if Portland manages to move him. Nurk is an odd fit with the rebuilding team and I don't think he would be happy to spend the next few years on a losing roster either. And yet, there is no point to jump on any trade to move Nurk as soon as possible either.

He's also better than a MLE level player... the MLE usually doesn’t get you a starting caliber player. It’s usually a backup who can start in case of emergency.

Pre-injury Nurkic would be getting paid 25+ per year.

Nurkic even post-injury is still a 15/10-ish starting quality C. He's right in there with the Jonas Valančiūnas type of lumbering starting C who's decent and fills a role, but someone you also are fine looking for upgrades with.

I totally agree with you, I'm fine if the Blazers move him and he's kind of a weird fit for where this team is going. That said, the way people talk about him you'd think he's Duncan Robinson. Now THAT is a bad contract worth of the type of talk people here give Nurkic.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Nurk has the ability to be a really good center. Unfortunately, he's a bonehead half the time. If he could focus for an entire 48-minutes, he'd be a 2nd tier center. Unfortunately, because he has his bonehead moments, hes a 3rd or 4th tier center.

[DusterBuster]

Nurk has the ability to be a really good center. Unfortunately, he's a bonehead half the time. If he could focus for an entire 48-minutes, he'd be a 2nd tier center. Unfortunately, because he has his bonehead moments, hes a 3rd or 4th tier center.

All fair points. I wouldn't even say he's boneheaded per say, he just takes stretches of the game off and lacks the explosion he had pre-injury...

But regardless of hair-splitting over shortcomings, the end result is still that he's pretty accurately rated and paid in today's NBA. Assuming a 5 tier ranking (Tier 1 being All NBA, Tier 2 being All-Star caliber, Tier 3 being Starter, Tire 4 being Bench, and Tier 5 being G-League/Long-term Prospect)... Tier 3 is exactly where Nurkic is and what he's paid as.

[JasonStern]

I'll never really understand the Nurkic hate for him as a player or his contract. He's a mid level starting quality center and he's paid exactly in-line with what those guys get paid. Particularly with where the CBA is going over the next 4-5 years, what Nurk is going to be making is more on par with bench players in your 6-8 depth range. Calling Nurk overpaid is not keeping up to date with the current CBA realities.

15-17mil is going to be pretty par for the course for just your average serviceable starter type players.

Nobody hates Nurkić. The center position has just become less and less relevant unless you are a Jokic/Embiid level player. Evolution of the game. It's why losing Eubanks for nothing sucks, as he was a decent enough big man on a really cheap contract. Then factor in that we're apparently rebuilding, while Nurkić is in his prime years...

Nurk's contract is worth 150% of MLE and has 3 more years guaranteed. It would have been great to have a pre-injury Jusuf locked on that deal but these days, I mean..
It's obvious Blazers must be happy to simply bail out of this deal without giving up anything meaningful.

On the bright side, it's just 3 years. So in 2 years, this contract will turn into a tasty expiring trade chip. And Blazers are now in the position to wait until that happens.

Nobody is trading anything of value for Raef LaFrentz's expiring contract.

[DusterBuster]

Nobody hates Nurkić. The center position has just become less and less relevant unless you are a Jokic/Embiid level player. Evolution of the game. It's why losing Eubanks for nothing sucks, as he was a decent enough big man on a really cheap contract. Then factor in that we're apparently rebuilding, while Nurkić is in his prime years...

There’s some pretty strong dislike of Nurkic.

I don’t disagree with anyone’s assessment of wanting to move on from him. I just think the talk of him being an immovable albatross contract that’s going to require 3 FRPs to move (exaggeration) is a bit much…

[monopoman]

Nobody hates Nurkić. The center position has just become less and less relevant unless you are a Jokic/Embiid level player. Evolution of the game. It's why losing Eubanks for nothing sucks, as he was a decent enough big man on a really cheap contract. Then factor in that we're apparently rebuilding, while Nurkić is in his prime years...

There’s some pretty strong dislike of Nurkic.

I don’t disagree with anyone’s assessment of wanting to move on from him. I just think the talk of him being an immovable albatross contract that’s going to require 3 FRPs to move (exaggeration) is a bit much…

Well that and we really aren't desperate for cap space here, I see no point in giving up value to move Nurkic sure if we trade Dame and then someone comes calling for Nurk and has an expiring+2nd round pick or something we might make that deal otherwise we just leave him on the roster.

I see no point in trying to get rid of every older player on the team immediately especially if that will require giving up assets. The only way I could see that salary being a problem is if we keep Dame and then want to make some moves or worry about going into the luxury tax or something, if we trade Dame and get that salary relief Nurk's contract is not a huge deal.

Nurk also is rarely healthy or good enough to win games and **** up our potential draft position in a post Dame world. So we don't have to worry about Nurk winning 10-15 games a season by blowing up. His best games ever are like 2-3 games a season where he looks damn good so it's a rarity.

[JasonStern]

Nobody hates Nurkić

There’s some pretty strong dislike of Nurkic.

And those people are wrong.

He's overpaid. Can't remain healthy. Not the player he was pre-leg injury. But he always seemed like cool dude to me. And that is worth something. Just not $17-20M/season.

[Jsun947]

Nurk is literally Portland's only consistent rebounder. When he's gone, just who on the roster will
have any desire to rebound?

Orlando Robinson or Christian Wood?

[DusterBuster]

Nurk is literally Portland's only consistent rebounder. When he's gone, just who on the roster will
have any desire to rebound?

Orlando Robinson or Christian Wood?

Wood is apparently Miami or Lakers bound and waiting to see what happens with Dame.

[Norm2953]

Nurk is literally Portland's only consistent rebounder. When he's gone, just who on the roster will
have any desire to rebound?

Orlando Robinson or Christian Wood?

Wood is apparently Miami or Lakers bound and waiting to see what happens with Dame.

I would wonder if the Heat will be over the second tax apron after the Dame trade is finally done.