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Post#441 » by Muizha » Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:42 am

Latvian media saying that the injury is not serious: "(...) injury cannot really be considered serious, but caution is being observed before the upcoming tournament." from: https://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/pk_2023/10082023-traumas_del_porzinga_daliba_pk_neskaidra_
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Post#442 » by durden_tyler » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:34 am

As a precaution, Boston will demand to sit him out. Poor national teams.
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Post#443 » by bisme37 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:39 pm

Latvia saying he's fine and the rumors that he was injured came from the fact that he didn't play the first couple games, but he wasn't expected to play the first couple games anyway.

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https://www.delfi.lv/sports/news/basketbols/cipruss-porzingis-mums-ir-pateicis-ka-vins-speles.d?id=55832826

Tsipruss explained in a conversation with "Sporta Studija" that it was not planned from the beginning that Porzingis could play all the games. The Latvian national team has six test matches in the preparatory phase, but the minimum number of matches in the World Cup will be five. Playing all 11 matches would be torture for the player, given his workload in the NBA , Tsiprus said. "If he was fully healthy, he wouldn't have played in all six test matches," Tsiprus said.

"There is nothing to worry about at the moment. Kristaps has told us that he will play. We really hope for that," continued the general secretary of LBS. "At the moment, he himself sees that he needs to get in his athletic form. We will see the Kristaps we want to see. Until the game against Finland, the team will train in the same composition as it is currently training. At the moment, due to health problems, the coaches are already starting to consider some changes in the rotation.
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Post#444 » by dirkforpres » Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:47 pm

bisme37 wrote:Latvia saying he's fine and the rumors that he was injured came from the fact that he didn't play the first couple games, but he wasn't expected to play the first couple games anyway.

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https://www.delfi.lv/sports/news/basketbols/cipruss-porzingis-mums-ir-pateicis-ka-vins-speles.d?id=55832826

Tsipruss explained in a conversation with "Sporta Studija" that it was not planned from the beginning that Porzingis could play all the games. The Latvian national team has six test matches in the preparatory phase, but the minimum number of matches in the World Cup will be five. Playing all 11 matches would be torture for the player, given his workload in the NBA , Tsiprus said. "If he was fully healthy, he wouldn't have played in all six test matches," Tsiprus said.

"There is nothing to worry about at the moment. Kristaps has told us that he will play. We really hope for that," continued the general secretary of LBS. "At the moment, he himself sees that he needs to get in his athletic form. We will see the Kristaps we want to see. Until the game against Finland, the team will train in the same composition as it is currently training. At the moment, due to health problems, the coaches are already starting to consider some changes in the rotation.


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Post#446 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:56 pm

Why is he even doing international play … why did the team allow that ? So he can have opportunity to get hurt ? He’s glass cannon still . Bad move
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Post#447 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:56 pm

bisme37 wrote:Latvia saying he's fine and the rumors that he was injured came from the fact that he didn't play the first couple games, but he wasn't expected to play the first couple games anyway.

Read on Twitter


https://www.delfi.lv/sports/news/basketbols/cipruss-porzingis-mums-ir-pateicis-ka-vins-speles.d?id=55832826

Tsipruss explained in a conversation with "Sporta Studija" that it was not planned from the beginning that Porzingis could play all the games. The Latvian national team has six test matches in the preparatory phase, but the minimum number of matches in the World Cup will be five. Playing all 11 matches would be torture for the player, given his workload in the NBA , Tsiprus said. "If he was fully healthy, he wouldn't have played in all six test matches," Tsiprus said.

"There is nothing to worry about at the moment. Kristaps has told us that he will play. We really hope for that," continued the general secretary of LBS. "At the moment, he himself sees that he needs to get in his athletic form. We will see the Kristaps we want to see. Until the game against Finland, the team will train in the same composition as it is currently training. At the moment, due to health problems, the coaches are already starting to consider some changes in the rotation.

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Post#448 » by Jellybeans » Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:59 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:Why is he even doing international play … why did the team allow that ? So he can have opportunity to get hurt ? He’s glass cannon still . Bad move

Because he can do whatever he wants? :lol:
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Post#449 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:41 pm

Jellybeans wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:Why is he even doing international play … why did the team allow that ? So he can have opportunity to get hurt ? He’s glass cannon still . Bad move

Because he can do whatever he wants? :lol:

Lot money down the drain if he’s out for season
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Post#450 » by phanman » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:57 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:
Jellybeans wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:Why is he even doing international play … why did the team allow that ? So he can have opportunity to get hurt ? He’s glass cannon still . Bad move

Because he can do whatever he wants? :lol:

Lot money down the drain if he’s out for season

28yo in his prime coming off the healthiest season since leaving New York and having just inked a contract extension. Why wouldn't he play?

I don't think Boston had a say here :lol:
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Post#451 » by Bob Ross » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:45 am

Oh no this is shocking. More lower body injuries for the 7'4 guy
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Post#452 » by ITYSL » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:57 am

Several people low-key hoping KP gets injured so they can say I told you so on forums.realgm.com

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Post#453 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:01 am

Ballerhogger wrote:
Jellybeans wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:Why is he even doing international play … why did the team allow that ? So he can have opportunity to get hurt ? He’s glass cannon still . Bad move

Because he can do whatever he wants? :lol:

Lot money down the drain if he’s out for season

Hey, at least he only costs one year equivalent of jaylen brown for the life of his extendo!
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Post#454 » by HotelVitale » Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:04 am

CoP wrote:Several people low-key hoping KP gets injured so they can say I told you so on forums.realgm.com

Evaluate your lives friends


Not only that, but to win a dumb argument about how it’s ‘smart’ not to play basketball for your home country and you shouldn’t be naive and blah blah, or so they can ‘prove’ tall basketball players will always get injured without fail. Guess that helps confirm something about their view of the world, though I'm not sure what.
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Post#455 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:35 am

Jellybeans wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:Why is he even doing international play … why did the team allow that ? So he can have opportunity to get hurt ? He’s glass cannon still . Bad move

Because he can do whatever he wants?
That's not true.
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Post#456 » by sasquatchBob » Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:51 am

Ballerhogger wrote:Why is he even doing international play … why did the team allow that ? So he can have opportunity to get hurt ? He’s glass cannon still . Bad move


If he would decide to skip Latvia's first ever world cup, Latvian people would eat him alive. Source - I'm Latvian.
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Post#457 » by NoStatsGuy » Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:52 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Jellybeans wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:Why is he even doing international play … why did the team allow that ? So he can have opportunity to get hurt ? He’s glass cannon still . Bad move

Because he can do whatever he wants?
That's not true.


it is true. no NBA team can prohibit players from joining their national teams, except they have made that agreement in the NBA contract. as for my knowledge, this usually does not happen.

players often follow through on the teams' request to not play, just because its better for their career and bank account. National competition in basketball is purely a pride thing. but NBA teams can not prevent their players from playing

now, if we are talking soccer for example. it also has a huge financial benefit besides the national pride. globally not a lot of people care for basketball world cup.
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Post#458 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:43 pm

sasquatchBob wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:Why is he even doing international play … why did the team allow that ? So he can have opportunity to get hurt ? He’s glass cannon still . Bad move


If he would decide to skip Latvia's first ever world cup, Latvian people would eat him alive. Source - I'm Latvian.


I get this, at the same time for a guy w/ his injury history its a bit foolish to be playing year round.
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Post#459 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:34 pm

NoStatsGuy wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Jellybeans wrote:Because he can do whatever he wants?
That's not true.


it is true. no NBA team can prohibit players from joining their national teams, except they have made that agreement in the NBA contract. as for my knowledge, this usually does not happen.

players often follow through on the teams' request to not play, just because its better for their career and bank account. National competition in basketball is purely a pride thing. but NBA teams can not prevent their players from playing

now, if we are talking soccer for example. it also has a huge financial benefit besides the national pride. globally not a lot of people care for basketball world cup.
By the "letter of the law" from the longstanding agreement between FIBA and the NBA, i agree with you.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1374647/nikola-jovic-and-aleksej-pokusevski-out-for-serbia-eurobasket-world-cup-qualifiers-fiba/

"For [Aleksej] Pokusevski and [Nikola] Jovic, we did not get permission from their teams".

However, just like teams aren't allowed to tamper, we all know well and good 29 teams are tampering. I'll exclude the Hornets because, Kupchak.

Of that same breathe we all know teams are prohibiting their players from playing in International competitions, even though they're told specifically told to let them.
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Post#460 » by NoStatsGuy » Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:02 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
NoStatsGuy wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:That's not true.


it is true. no NBA team can prohibit players from joining their national teams, except they have made that agreement in the NBA contract. as for my knowledge, this usually does not happen.

players often follow through on the teams' request to not play, just because its better for their career and bank account. National competition in basketball is purely a pride thing. but NBA teams can not prevent their players from playing

now, if we are talking soccer for example. it also has a huge financial benefit besides the national pride. globally not a lot of people care for basketball world cup.
By the "letter of the law" from the longstanding agreement between FIBA and the NBA, i agree with you.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/eurobasket/1374647/nikola-jovic-and-aleksej-pokusevski-out-for-serbia-eurobasket-world-cup-qualifiers-fiba/

"For [Aleksej] Pokusevski and [Nikola] Jovic, we did not get permission from their teams".

However, just like teams aren't allowed to tamper, we all know well and good 29 teams are tampering. I'll exclude the Hornets because, Kupchak.

Of that same breathe we all know teams are prohibiting their players from playing in International competitions, even though they're told specifically told to let them.


if poku and jovic said, they wanted to go (which they maybe dont even want to) they would have to let them go though, unless they have contractual agreements with the NBA team. thats the point.

because as i said, many basketball players enjoy their summer break and dont want to risk an injury, since they play for lifechanging contracts, especially up and comming talent and roles players are more hesitant than established players.

huge diffrence between earning 5-10 million in 2 years or getting a 60-80/5 contract. i see both conrtacts as realistic outcomes for players like poku and jovic, depending how they play in a contract year and develop overall in the next couple years.

the world cup in basketball just has not enough prestige or financial benefit to have a serious pull for players, that dont have that national pride or wanna enjoy the summer with their "boys".
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