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Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . .

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#921 » by Fierce1 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:27 am

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So it couldn't?

Brogdon to the Clips is not happening.


Well, the Clips cost us Smart, so they can only have Brogdon if they massively overpay.

The Cs need a PG more than a guy like Norman Powell or any other Clipper player that's not a PG.

And the reason why the Clips want Brogs is because they want a PG.

It's not about what the Cs will get, it's about the Cs need Brogs because of the departure of Smart.

The Cs just does not have that depth at PG anymore.

So why trade Brogs when the PG position is a little thin right now.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#923 » by Darthlukey » Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:48 am

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#924 » by Triple M » Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:06 am

In this instance he's right. Harden was foolish to trust philly but ultimately Philly realized they would be making a mistake if thry stuck to their promise
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#925 » by Darthlukey » Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:09 am

Triple M wrote:In this instance he's right. Harden was foolish to trust philly but ultimately Philly realized they would be making a mistake if thry stuck to their promise

Deals like that fall outside of the CBA and if you are foolish enough to make a deal outside the CBA, you cannot expect the benefits that it affords.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#926 » by SuperDeluxe » Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:21 am

By opting in, Harden gave Philly the chance to get something for him (and, in return, Philly would give him the chance to end up with a team on his want list).

Assuming this is what happened, then he was betrayed so it's easy to understand his frustration.

It couldn't have happened to a nicer person.
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Post#927 » by Hal14 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:05 am

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#928 » by Theocy » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:11 am

we can send out AL, PP and Brogdon.

How good are strip-clubs in the Boston area? :lol:
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Post#930 » by GotDaSauce » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:53 am

Theocy wrote:we can send out AL, PP and Brogdon.

How good are strip-clubs in the Boston area? :lol:

Very short ride to Providence, RI. :wink:
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Post#931 » by Cricket23 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 11:05 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Brogdon to the Clips is not happening.


Well, the Clips cost us Smart, so they can only have Brogdon if they massively overpay.

The Cs need a PG more than a guy like Norman Powell or any other Clipper player that's not a PG.

And the reason why the Clips want Brogs is because they want a PG.

It's not about what the Cs will get, it's about the Cs need Brogs because of the departure of Smart.

The Cs just does not have that depth at PG anymore.

So why trade Brogs when the PG position is a little thin right now.


So basically you're saying Brogdon isn't being traded anywhere. That's just a guess on your part, one that will probably be correct considering the vast majority of possible trades we discuss don't happen. I simply said it could be revisited, which means maybe or maybe not, so I don't understand what you're arguing. Fwiw, if Boston and the Clips were to engage in trade talks, I believe a 3rd team would be involved, just like the last time they discussed a Brogdon deal.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#932 » by Hal14 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 11:28 am

Cricket23 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
Well, the Clips cost us Smart, so they can only have Brogdon if they massively overpay.

The Cs need a PG more than a guy like Norman Powell or any other Clipper player that's not a PG.

And the reason why the Clips want Brogs is because they want a PG.

It's not about what the Cs will get, it's about the Cs need Brogs because of the departure of Smart.

The Cs just does not have that depth at PG anymore.

So why trade Brogs when the PG position is a little thin right now.


So basically you're saying Brogdon isn't being traded anywhere. That's just a guess on your part

It's a very educated guess.

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#933 » by Fierce1 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:34 pm

Cricket23 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
Well, the Clips cost us Smart, so they can only have Brogdon if they massively overpay.

The Cs need a PG more than a guy like Norman Powell or any other Clipper player that's not a PG.

And the reason why the Clips want Brogs is because they want a PG.

It's not about what the Cs will get, it's about the Cs need Brogs because of the departure of Smart.

The Cs just does not have that depth at PG anymore.

So why trade Brogs when the PG position is a little thin right now.


So basically you're saying Brogdon isn't being traded anywhere. That's just a guess on your part, one that will probably be correct considering the vast majority of possible trades we discuss don't happen. I simply said it could be revisited, which means maybe or maybe not, so I don't understand what you're arguing. Fwiw, if Boston and the Clips were to engage in trade talks, I believe a 3rd team would be involved, just like the last time they discussed a Brogdon deal.

Brad said Brogs will not be traded.

I believe him.

So it's not a guess.

Just like many didn't believe the Cs would give JB the supermax even when the Cs kept saying they're serious about keeping JB in Boston.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#934 » by Fierce1 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:37 pm

Brad is not like Danny Ainge.

Ainge will say something then do something different from what he said.

Brad is not like that.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#935 » by steefP2 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:49 pm

Fierce1 wrote:Brad is not like Danny Ainge.

Ainge will say something then do something different from what he said.

Brad is not like that.



He told smart he wouldn’t be traded either.
Smart himself said that; but that didn’t last long
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#936 » by Cricket23 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:51 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
Cricket23 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:The Cs need a PG more than a guy like Norman Powell or any other Clipper player that's not a PG.

And the reason why the Clips want Brogs is because they want a PG.

It's not about what the Cs will get, it's about the Cs need Brogs because of the departure of Smart.

The Cs just does not have that depth at PG anymore.

So why trade Brogs when the PG position is a little thin right now.


So basically you're saying Brogdon isn't being traded anywhere. That's just a guess on your part, one that will probably be correct considering the vast majority of possible trades we discuss don't happen. I simply said it could be revisited, which means maybe or maybe not, so I don't understand what you're arguing. Fwiw, if Boston and the Clips were to engage in trade talks, I believe a 3rd team would be involved, just like the last time they discussed a Brogdon deal.

Brad said Brogs will not be traded.

I believe him.

So it's not a guess.

Just like many didn't believe the Cs would give JB the supermax even when the Cs kept saying they're serious about keeping JB in Boston.


Brad told Smart he wouldn't be traded. Take everything you hear reported with a grain of salt.
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Post#937 » by Hal14 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:28 pm

Meaning this will be Batum's last season in the NBA..

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Post#938 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:36 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Cricket23 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:The Cs need a PG more than a guy like Norman Powell or any other Clipper player that's not a PG.

And the reason why the Clips want Brogs is because they want a PG.

It's not about what the Cs will get, it's about the Cs need Brogs because of the departure of Smart.

The Cs just does not have that depth at PG anymore.

So why trade Brogs when the PG position is a little thin right now.


So basically you're saying Brogdon isn't being traded anywhere. That's just a guess on your part

It's a very educated guess.

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Brogdon can be traded at any time. Celtics would move Brogdon in a heartbeat if it improved the team. Just to refresh everyone's memory, the Clippers offered Morris, Coffey and the 30th pick in the draft in the failed three way trade between Bos/Was/LAC.

I'm not the biggest Brogdon fan by far but I wouldn't trade him for Morris, Coffey and the 30th pick in the draft.

Brogdon is here to stay for a while is my guess.
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Post#939 » by RickyDizzle » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:19 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
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So basically you're saying Brogdon isn't being traded anywhere. That's just a guess on your part

It's a very educated guess.

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Brogdon can be traded at any time. Celtics would move Brogdon in a heartbeat if it improved the team. Just to refresh everyone's memory, the Clippers offered Morris, Coffey and the 30th pick in the draft in the failed three way trade between Bos/Was/LAC.

I'm not the biggest Brogdon fan by far but I wouldn't trade him for Morris, Coffey and the 30th pick in the draft.

Brogdon is here to stay for a while is my guess.


Well the salary filler was going to Washington. It would've been porzingus and the pick to Boston. With us retaining smart. So the real question to ask yourself is would you rather have Smart and 1 late pick or brogdon and 2 1sts (one of which already became Walsh and a bunch of 2nds)?
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#940 » by Cricket23 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:26 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Cricket23 wrote:
So basically you're saying Brogdon isn't being traded anywhere. That's just a guess on your part

It's a very educated guess.

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Brogdon can be traded at any time. Celtics would move Brogdon in a heartbeat if it improved the team. Just to refresh everyone's memory, the Clippers offered Morris, Coffey and the 30th pick in the draft in the failed three way trade between Bos/Was/LAC.

I'm not the biggest Brogdon fan by far but I wouldn't trade him for Morris, Coffey and the 30th pick in the draft.

Brogdon is here to stay for a while is my guess.


I would agree that that Clips package wouldn't make Boston a better team and that they wouldn't accept it. I believe, by the slim chance that Boston and LA did engage in trade talks revolving around Brogdon, a 3rd team would be involved who had something Boston could benefit from.

I keep thinking how Brad hasn't made a 1st round pick yet. He has one forthcoming every single year, with 2 coming next year. He also has several 2nd round picks. Assuming that they don't suddenly start making all of their own picks, whose salary could they add a pick or picks too in order to improve their roster? The easy answer is Brogdon. The question to me is not what Boston could get from LA for Brogdon, it's what could they get from a 3rd team for the LA package plus a 1st or more of their own.

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